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		<title>By: truthbetold</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-152830</link>
		<dc:creator>truthbetold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 06:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this thread is almost 3 years old but:
pulling the plug, that was a powerful post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this thread is almost 3 years old but:<br />
pulling the plug, that was a powerful post</p>
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		<title>By: groggy456</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-47674</link>
		<dc:creator>groggy456</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you will see this. Perhaps you have gotten your &quot;proper backbone&quot; by now, but I want to tell you that I identify 100% with you and everything you were (or still are) going through. I can&#039;t take it anymore. Every day it&#039;s front and center, staring me down: what the fuck is the point?!  For what it&#039;s worth, you are a very intelligent person, and I would love to chat with you sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you will see this. Perhaps you have gotten your &#8220;proper backbone&#8221; by now, but I want to tell you that I identify 100% with you and everything you were (or still are) going through. I can&#8217;t take it anymore. Every day it&#8217;s front and center, staring me down: what the fuck is the point?!  For what it&#8217;s worth, you are a very intelligent person, and I would love to chat with you sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: pulling the plug</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-34577</link>
		<dc:creator>pulling the plug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kind but emotionally distant parents.&quot;

Such a short sentence, such a powerful force in the life of a small child.

Parents are like gods:  All-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful.  Their influence is immeasurable; they are like the sun and the rain - their presence makes us grow; their absence stunts us as surely as a sunless, waterless plant shrivels and dies.

We&#039;re taught, in this culture, not to &#039;play the victim&#039;.  We&#039;re also taught not to question authority; to shut up and take it; to &#039;suck it up&#039;.  

Your parents were kind; they didn&#039;t beat you, they fed you and sheltered you, maybe sent you to a good school.

And yet, like that banquet you describe where every bite turned to sand, their presence was - an absence.  A hole.  A lack.  A nothing where a &#039;something&#039; should have been.  Instead of a real, genuine, connected relationship (which is the source of all true joy), you had, instead, people who tried, but whose hearts weren&#039;t in it.

&quot;No crippling emotional pain.&quot;  Really?  Truly?  Anyone who can write a sentence like the one about the banquet is suffering some amazing pain.  It&#039;s just that you&#039;ve cut yourself off from it, because it&#039;s too much to bear.  We&#039;re not meant to carry that kind of pain alone and unsupported - we&#039;re meant to be surrounded by people who care, who _notice_ when we&#039;re hurting, who reach out to us to hug and comfort and hold us when we&#039;re struggling and scared.  People who leave us alone with our pain are - sorry - cruel.  They may not know it, because _their_ parents did the same thing, and we&#039;re part of a culture that believes in that sh*t.  

But it&#039;s cruel, nonetheless.

You&#039;re really smart, and you need to connect with someone who&#039;s equally smart, someone who really &#039;gets&#039; you.  I don&#039;t know the answers for finding this person or people (otherwise I wouldn&#039;t be here myself), but I know that relationships are the answer.  Without them, nothing else has any meaning.  True, they aren&#039;t _everything_ - even if we find the &#039;right&#039; relationship, or friendship, we&#039;ll still need jobs and other things to make life meaningful.  

But the human connection is the root of it.  And it&#039;s hard in this consumer-driven, competitive culture to find people who are willing to put in the effort.  Hyper-individualism may be the death of us all.

Anyway.  You are not single-handedly responsible for who you are and how your life is shaped - you&#039;re part of a culture, a family, a community of people who shape you and who you shape in return.  So if you&#039;re feeling messed up, it&#039;s not just about you - it&#039;s that your _environment_ is not giving you what you need to thrive and be happy.  I make this point to maybe suggest that you&#039;re not to _blame_ for how you&#039;re feeling.  It&#039;s not something wrong with you.  It&#039;s normal for an intelligent, sensitive, full-of-life person to feel unsatisfied by the mental and emotional junk food that passes for culture in our country.

I think you have to trust your instincts and cast off any and all people who seem to keep you down, who don&#039;t add color and light and life to your world.  A line from a poem a friend once sent said, &quot;The only one you can save is yourself.&quot;

This is really true.  Your &#039;friend&#039; who wants you to commit suicide together isn&#039;t really hearing or seeing you - he&#039;s only seeing his own pain.  He&#039;s not in it for you.  And neither are most people.  Finding a true connection is the rarest thing on earth, something to be infinitely cherished.  Meantime, we just have to do the best we can, reach out often, touch and be touched.  Ask for help when you need it, like you&#039;re doing by writing here.  Cry out when you&#039;re in pain - true friends will answer with a hug and a word of encouragement, an offer to help you out.  Use your emotions to sort the wheat from the chaff in your life.  Your feelings are your compass.  Without them you are stranded in an emotional desert.

That, unfortunately, is the &#039;gift&#039; your parents gave you - disconnection from the most powerful tools we have to keep us connected in life.  You have to learn how to re-connect with that guiding force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kind but emotionally distant parents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Such a short sentence, such a powerful force in the life of a small child.</p>
<p>Parents are like gods:  All-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful.  Their influence is immeasurable; they are like the sun and the rain &#8211; their presence makes us grow; their absence stunts us as surely as a sunless, waterless plant shrivels and dies.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re taught, in this culture, not to &#8216;play the victim&#8217;.  We&#8217;re also taught not to question authority; to shut up and take it; to &#8216;suck it up&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Your parents were kind; they didn&#8217;t beat you, they fed you and sheltered you, maybe sent you to a good school.</p>
<p>And yet, like that banquet you describe where every bite turned to sand, their presence was &#8211; an absence.  A hole.  A lack.  A nothing where a &#8216;something&#8217; should have been.  Instead of a real, genuine, connected relationship (which is the source of all true joy), you had, instead, people who tried, but whose hearts weren&#8217;t in it.</p>
<p>&#8220;No crippling emotional pain.&#8221;  Really?  Truly?  Anyone who can write a sentence like the one about the banquet is suffering some amazing pain.  It&#8217;s just that you&#8217;ve cut yourself off from it, because it&#8217;s too much to bear.  We&#8217;re not meant to carry that kind of pain alone and unsupported &#8211; we&#8217;re meant to be surrounded by people who care, who _notice_ when we&#8217;re hurting, who reach out to us to hug and comfort and hold us when we&#8217;re struggling and scared.  People who leave us alone with our pain are &#8211; sorry &#8211; cruel.  They may not know it, because _their_ parents did the same thing, and we&#8217;re part of a culture that believes in that sh*t.  </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s cruel, nonetheless.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re really smart, and you need to connect with someone who&#8217;s equally smart, someone who really &#8216;gets&#8217; you.  I don&#8217;t know the answers for finding this person or people (otherwise I wouldn&#8217;t be here myself), but I know that relationships are the answer.  Without them, nothing else has any meaning.  True, they aren&#8217;t _everything_ &#8211; even if we find the &#8216;right&#8217; relationship, or friendship, we&#8217;ll still need jobs and other things to make life meaningful.  </p>
<p>But the human connection is the root of it.  And it&#8217;s hard in this consumer-driven, competitive culture to find people who are willing to put in the effort.  Hyper-individualism may be the death of us all.</p>
<p>Anyway.  You are not single-handedly responsible for who you are and how your life is shaped &#8211; you&#8217;re part of a culture, a family, a community of people who shape you and who you shape in return.  So if you&#8217;re feeling messed up, it&#8217;s not just about you &#8211; it&#8217;s that your _environment_ is not giving you what you need to thrive and be happy.  I make this point to maybe suggest that you&#8217;re not to _blame_ for how you&#8217;re feeling.  It&#8217;s not something wrong with you.  It&#8217;s normal for an intelligent, sensitive, full-of-life person to feel unsatisfied by the mental and emotional junk food that passes for culture in our country.</p>
<p>I think you have to trust your instincts and cast off any and all people who seem to keep you down, who don&#8217;t add color and light and life to your world.  A line from a poem a friend once sent said, &#8220;The only one you can save is yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is really true.  Your &#8216;friend&#8217; who wants you to commit suicide together isn&#8217;t really hearing or seeing you &#8211; he&#8217;s only seeing his own pain.  He&#8217;s not in it for you.  And neither are most people.  Finding a true connection is the rarest thing on earth, something to be infinitely cherished.  Meantime, we just have to do the best we can, reach out often, touch and be touched.  Ask for help when you need it, like you&#8217;re doing by writing here.  Cry out when you&#8217;re in pain &#8211; true friends will answer with a hug and a word of encouragement, an offer to help you out.  Use your emotions to sort the wheat from the chaff in your life.  Your feelings are your compass.  Without them you are stranded in an emotional desert.</p>
<p>That, unfortunately, is the &#8216;gift&#8217; your parents gave you &#8211; disconnection from the most powerful tools we have to keep us connected in life.  You have to learn how to re-connect with that guiding force.</p>
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		<title>By: Everything Counts</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-34574</link>
		<dc:creator>Everything Counts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written. I guess venting out your inner feelings is something very important. Keeping them suppressed can cause real problems - physical as well as mental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written. I guess venting out your inner feelings is something very important. Keeping them suppressed can cause real problems &#8211; physical as well as mental.</p>
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		<title>By: susan5</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-34486</link>
		<dc:creator>susan5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, of course.  That&#039;s been my problem, looking for a purpose.  Mostly because nothing I&#039;ve done has managed to capture my interest, but I always sort of believed something, somewhere, would.  And yes, you&#039;re right, in that situation, one has to go out there and create a purpose, as Kirkegaard, or Sartre or one of those miserable fuckers said, and just commit yourself to it, as that&#039;s the only rational response to an irrational world and all that.  But why should I?  Why is it necessary that I live my life at all?  This is the question I ask myself, daily.  I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s something intrinsically wrong with me, per se--some kind of congenital inability to experience joy or satisfaction with the little things in life, or if I just look too closely at things, and things always come to pieces if you examine them too carefully.  I guess I&#039;d just love to know what it feels like to experience those pleasures that seem to come so easily to others.  It&#039;s like being invited to an all-you-can-eat buffet prepared by the greatest chefs in the world, and having absolutely no appetite, and everything you put in your mouth just turns to sand. Anyway, words never solved anything.  But I do truly thank you all for your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, of course.  That&#8217;s been my problem, looking for a purpose.  Mostly because nothing I&#8217;ve done has managed to capture my interest, but I always sort of believed something, somewhere, would.  And yes, you&#8217;re right, in that situation, one has to go out there and create a purpose, as Kirkegaard, or Sartre or one of those miserable fuckers said, and just commit yourself to it, as that&#8217;s the only rational response to an irrational world and all that.  But why should I?  Why is it necessary that I live my life at all?  This is the question I ask myself, daily.  I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s something intrinsically wrong with me, per se&#8211;some kind of congenital inability to experience joy or satisfaction with the little things in life, or if I just look too closely at things, and things always come to pieces if you examine them too carefully.  I guess I&#8217;d just love to know what it feels like to experience those pleasures that seem to come so easily to others.  It&#8217;s like being invited to an all-you-can-eat buffet prepared by the greatest chefs in the world, and having absolutely no appetite, and everything you put in your mouth just turns to sand. Anyway, words never solved anything.  But I do truly thank you all for your input.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco Bellafante</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-34478</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco Bellafante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I think LOOKING for a purpose or for some inherent or intrinsic meaning in life is a &#039;trap&#039;.  I don&#039;t think there is anything to FIND.  Rather, I think the people who seem to live fulfilling, purposeful, meaning-filled lives are the ones who choose to proactively CREATE purpose and meaning in their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I think LOOKING for a purpose or for some inherent or intrinsic meaning in life is a &#8216;trap&#8217;.  I don&#8217;t think there is anything to FIND.  Rather, I think the people who seem to live fulfilling, purposeful, meaning-filled lives are the ones who choose to proactively CREATE purpose and meaning in their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: brokeNinsidE</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-34472</link>
		<dc:creator>brokeNinsidE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you&#039;re still here so you mustve found some way to deal with it. im more than open to suggestions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you&#8217;re still here so you mustve found some way to deal with it. im more than open to suggestions</p>
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		<title>By: darkgermandeath</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-34470</link>
		<dc:creator>darkgermandeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont know about the probably part i will never accept it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont know about the probably part i will never accept it</p>
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		<title>By: brokeNinsidE</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-34469</link>
		<dc:creator>brokeNinsidE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen brother, the crushing monotony of this world is just unbearable.  Everyday I long for something to come along, anything that will actually make me look forward to tomorrow. It never does. Never will. People like us are just cursed i guess.  We cant stand the excrutiating minutiae of every meaningless part of everyday life that normal people somehow thrive on.  The thought of spending 60 years going through the motions makes me physically sick to my stomach.  But thats the reality were forced to face.  But im not ready to accept it.  Probably never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen brother, the crushing monotony of this world is just unbearable.  Everyday I long for something to come along, anything that will actually make me look forward to tomorrow. It never does. Never will. People like us are just cursed i guess.  We cant stand the excrutiating minutiae of every meaningless part of everyday life that normal people somehow thrive on.  The thought of spending 60 years going through the motions makes me physically sick to my stomach.  But thats the reality were forced to face.  But im not ready to accept it.  Probably never will.</p>
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		<title>By: N</title>
		<link>http://suicideproject.org/2009/07/boredom-is-death/comment-page-1/#comment-34468</link>
		<dc:creator>N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand. I know I&#039;ve had my fill of existing at the baseline. Maybe part of your purpose was to post the message and let me and others know that we&#039;re not alone. Right now I know I don&#039;t have the guts to really harm myself. I&#039;ve pretty much lost hope for the future as you have. How much longer can we sustain this type of existence that feels like a non-existence that will never end? I just know I&#039;m exhausted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand. I know I&#8217;ve had my fill of existing at the baseline. Maybe part of your purpose was to post the message and let me and others know that we&#8217;re not alone. Right now I know I don&#8217;t have the guts to really harm myself. I&#8217;ve pretty much lost hope for the future as you have. How much longer can we sustain this type of existence that feels like a non-existence that will never end? I just know I&#8217;m exhausted.</p>
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