Comments on: Suicide Is Selfish http://suicideproject.org/2009/12/suicide-is-selfish/ share your suicide story with others Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:38:42 +0000 hourly 1 By: twiggy70x7 http://suicideproject.org/2009/12/suicide-is-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-71397 twiggy70x7 Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:21:47 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6090#comment-71397 Wow!!! I was looking up a way to tell the children of a friend, who killed himself, that suicide is selfish and it doesnt mean he loved them less. I know its selfish. How can someone email you?? I know you said youve tried everything but if this article is a way to change your life by letting people in because they now stop and smell the roses. This type of article makes people realize how fast paced they have made their life and it causes people, me as well, to slow down and take time for people, can i have your email address?? thank you, MH Wow!!! I was looking up a way to tell the children of a friend, who killed himself, that suicide is selfish and it doesnt mean he loved them less. I know its selfish. How can someone email you?? I know you said youve tried everything but if this article is a way to change your life by letting people in because they now stop and smell the roses. This type of article makes people realize how fast paced they have made their life and it causes people, me as well, to slow down and take time for people, can i have your email address?? thank you, MH

]]> By: xxKelsey http://suicideproject.org/2009/12/suicide-is-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-37849 xxKelsey Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:21:16 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6090#comment-37849 Suicide is Selfish. I am 15 years old and my mother killed herself. She left me and my brother and my father heart broken, not to mention her friends and family. Its a horrible thing Suicide is Selfish. I am 15 years old and my mother killed herself. She left me and my brother and my father heart broken, not to mention her friends and family. Its a horrible thing

]]> By: Selfish http://suicideproject.org/2009/12/suicide-is-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-37844 Selfish Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:22:19 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6090#comment-37844 Actually not-good-enough, I did not intend to walk all over what you wrote. This is obviously a place where you can speak what you feel. I just wanted to give some encouraging words. I mean you did post under what I wrote. And you posted about your sister and the painful experience that she had while she was here. And really I don't feel worse for your sister. Though I do feel bad that she had to suffer through cancer. That is horrible and I have no apologies for acknowledging that fact. I am very grateful that I don't know what it feels like to die a slow an excruciating death. I don't know the kind of life your sister would have had if she never got sick. Perhaps she would have been miserable. But perhaps she may have had a great life. In any event right now she's chilling up in heaven with the creator and she's having a heck of a better time than any of us. I am in fact not religious at all. I have read enough near death experiences (after death experiences) and seen enough people recount their nde's to believe that there is no waiting time. You go straight to the creator. Now some people have accounts of having gone straight to hell. But they always call out to the creator and he comes to save them. Then there are the suiciders who usually end of in a place that is totally devoid of light and is terrifying. But there are also some suiciders that end up going straight to the creator. You can believe what you want, but I implore you to do some research on nde's. Scientists claim that these experiences are just figments of the imagination. Sort of the brain's last hoora, our consciousness trying to assert it's existence after death. But I don't believe that at all. You should look it up. Actually not-good-enough, I did not intend to walk all over what you wrote. This is obviously a place where you can speak what you feel. I just wanted to give some encouraging words. I mean you did post under what I wrote. And you posted about your sister and the painful experience that she had while she was here.

And really I don’t feel worse for your sister. Though I do feel bad that she had to suffer through cancer. That is horrible and I have no apologies for acknowledging that fact. I am very grateful that I don’t know what it feels like to die a slow an excruciating death.

I don’t know the kind of life your sister would have had if she never got sick. Perhaps she would have been miserable. But perhaps she may have had a great life. In any event right now she’s chilling up in heaven with the creator and she’s having a heck of a better time than any of us.

I am in fact not religious at all. I have read enough near death experiences (after death experiences) and seen enough people recount their nde’s to believe that there is no waiting time. You go straight to the creator. Now some people have accounts of having gone straight to hell. But they always call out to the creator and he comes to save them. Then there are the suiciders who usually end of in a place that is totally devoid of light and is terrifying. But there are also some suiciders that end up going straight to the creator.

You can believe what you want, but I implore you to do some research on nde’s. Scientists claim that these experiences are just figments of the imagination. Sort of the brain’s last hoora, our consciousness trying to assert it’s existence after death. But I don’t believe that at all. You should look it up.

]]> By: not-good-enough http://suicideproject.org/2009/12/suicide-is-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-37842 not-good-enough Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:33:09 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6090#comment-37842 To Selfish: I just knew that I couldn't post something on here and just let it be at that! NO matter what I say there is always somebody that has to walk all over what I say. WOW I have already spoken to a psychologist about this, that, and other things, don't feel sorry for me! Why can't I just have my own opinion? See? already you feel worse for my sister, SHE IS The VICTIM here. It should have been me in her place. Well no one goes straight to hell, when they die, however they die. You see I am religious too: everyone will be ressurected first, then judged, then based on all that, then if you still deny god, then you go to hell. To Selfish: I just knew that I couldn’t post something on here and just let it be at that! NO matter what I say there is always somebody that has to walk all over what I say. WOW I have already spoken to a psychologist about this, that, and other things, don’t feel sorry for me! Why can’t I just have my own opinion? See? already you feel worse for my sister, SHE IS The VICTIM here. It should have been me in her place. Well no one goes straight to hell, when they die, however they die. You see I am religious too: everyone will be ressurected first, then judged, then based on all that, then if you still deny god, then you go to hell.

]]> By: Selfish http://suicideproject.org/2009/12/suicide-is-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-37839 Selfish Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:11:57 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6090#comment-37839 @not good enough: I hope that you get a chance to read this. I wish that it were that simple. For me there are many people who are related to me that would suffer a great deal if I killed myself. My family is religious and they would all think that I automatically went to hell. This is the worst thing that I could do to them. You said "it takes more than one person to effect in order for it to be selfish" but this statement couldn't be further from the truth. All it takes is one person to love you for suicide to be selfish. Because no matter what they will carry the burden and belief that they should have or could have done something to help you. It's even worse if they believe that you will receive eternal damnation because of suicide. This is just a fact of life. And it's a fact that I battle with everyday. I hate it, I go crazy because of it sometimes, and I actually have tantrums screaming out to the creator in my mind telling him how angry I am. I'm really sorry to hear about your sister. But you sound as if you're angry at her for getting sick. You must know that she never wanted to get sick and that cancer or more so the treatment for cancer is a very painful experience. You sound like you should talk to someone about this resentment that you feel towards her. I'm not going to pretend that I have any idea what it's like to live in the shadow of a terminally ill sibling. I'm sure that what you're feeling is totally valid. But how does it help you to have resentment towards your sister? Speak to someone and they may be able to help you see that you are the lucky one and not your sister. I highly doubt that no one cares about you. People have frailties. Your family is very damaged from the death of your sister, especially because of the way that she left. Maybe you should write a letter to your parents explaining how you feel. Tell them the truth about everything. That may be a start. @not good enough: I hope that you get a chance to read this.

I wish that it were that simple. For me there are many people who are related to me that would suffer a great deal if I killed myself. My family is religious and they would all think that I automatically went to hell. This is the worst thing that I could do to them.

You said “it takes more than one person to effect in order for it to be selfish” but this statement couldn’t be further from the truth. All it takes is one person to love you for suicide to be selfish. Because no matter what they will carry the burden and belief that they should have or could have done something to help you. It’s even worse if they believe that you will receive eternal damnation because of suicide.

This is just a fact of life. And it’s a fact that I battle with everyday. I hate it, I go crazy because of it sometimes, and I actually have tantrums screaming out to the creator in my mind telling him how angry I am.

I’m really sorry to hear about your sister. But you sound as if you’re angry at her for getting sick. You must know that she never wanted to get sick and that cancer or more so the treatment for cancer is a very painful experience. You sound like you should talk to someone about this resentment that you feel towards her.

I’m not going to pretend that I have any idea what it’s like to live in the shadow of a terminally ill sibling. I’m sure that what you’re feeling is totally valid. But how does it help you to have resentment towards your sister? Speak to someone and they may be able to help you see that you are the lucky one and not your sister. I highly doubt that no one cares about you. People have frailties. Your family is very damaged from the death of your sister, especially because of the way that she left. Maybe you should write a letter to your parents explaining how you feel. Tell them the truth about everything. That may be a start.

]]> By: not-good-enough http://suicideproject.org/2009/12/suicide-is-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-37838 not-good-enough Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:15:29 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6090#comment-37838 I think it all depends on the circumstances, if you had no one and nothing then it would not be selfish, it takes more than one person to effect in order for it to be selfish, If someone had a lot of responsibility; debt, children, etc and then it is dumped onto others to deal with then yes. But the act itself is not selfish. A person who kills themselves is exercising their own free agency. The ability to choose. If someone was dying from cancer, and it went on for a couple of years with all the chemo and hospital bills and all the attention, gifts, cards, prayers...I am only saying this because my sister died from cancer and it seemed like everyone loved her more and I was left unnoticed and then she died. And still no one cares about me. maybe its the other way around!!!!!!!!!! I think it all depends on the circumstances, if you had no one and nothing then it would not be selfish, it takes more than one person to effect in order for it to be selfish, If someone had a lot of responsibility; debt, children, etc and then it is dumped onto others to deal with then yes. But the act itself is not selfish. A person who kills themselves is exercising their own free agency. The ability to choose. If someone was dying from cancer, and it went on for a couple of years with all the chemo and hospital bills and all the attention, gifts, cards, prayers…I am only saying this because my sister died from cancer and it seemed like everyone loved her more and I was left unnoticed and then she died. And still no one cares about me. maybe its the other way around!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: dark_existence http://suicideproject.org/2009/12/suicide-is-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-37835 dark_existence Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:08:15 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6090#comment-37835 Suicide indeed is selfish, but asking someone else to bear his or her pain for your sake is also selfishness. It's all a matter of who gets his way--you, or those people who claim to care for you, be they true or otherwise. Suicide indeed is selfish, but asking someone else to bear his or her pain for your sake is also selfishness. It’s all a matter of who gets his way–you, or those people who claim to care for you, be they true or otherwise.

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