Comments on: The ‘What the hell is wrong with you all’ rant http://suicideproject.org/2010/02/the-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-all-rant/ share your suicide story with others Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:09:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: lostthewill http://suicideproject.org/2010/02/the-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-all-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-39088 lostthewill Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:17:26 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6902#comment-39088 We all have someone we will leave behind, a mother, father, brother, sister, husband, wife, child, pet, friend, neighbour, colleague - we all take up more space in the world than we think we do. When in the depths of depression, it is very difficult to think of the ones we would leave behind. Suicide is not a selfish act, and to say that a parent shoudln't contemplate suicide is a nonsense. The fact that someone is thinking of suicide means that their ability to cope is broken, and they need help. I know I do. We all have someone we will leave behind, a mother, father, brother, sister, husband, wife, child, pet, friend, neighbour, colleague – we all take up more space in the world than we think we do. When in the depths of depression, it is very difficult to think of the ones we would leave behind. Suicide is not a selfish act, and to say that a parent shoudln’t contemplate suicide is a nonsense. The fact that someone is thinking of suicide means that their ability to cope is broken, and they need help. I know I do.

]]> By: janedoesez http://suicideproject.org/2010/02/the-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-all-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-38872 janedoesez Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:20:40 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6902#comment-38872 has anyone ever thought about how affected the child would be growing up with a parent who was so fucked up? are you guys saying that a parent who's alive but fucked up is better than a parent who committed suicide? bottom line - neither is desirable for the child - a parent who's dead or alive - but depressed and suicidal. but i think what wasn't stated is that - there may be a chance that the parent could improve if they were alive and thus be there for the child, however, it is absolutely impossible for any chance of improving & being there for your child if you're dead has anyone ever thought about how affected the child would be growing up with a parent who was so fucked up? are you guys saying that a parent who’s alive but fucked up is better than a parent who committed suicide? bottom line – neither is desirable for the child – a parent who’s dead or alive – but depressed and suicidal.

but i think what wasn’t stated is that – there may be a chance that the parent could improve if they were alive and thus be there for the child, however, it is absolutely impossible for any chance of improving & being there for your child if you’re dead

]]> By: dontcare11 http://suicideproject.org/2010/02/the-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-all-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-38767 dontcare11 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:43:44 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6902#comment-38767 You're spot on dude. Even just attempting suicide can severely fuck with a child's mind (if they're old enough to know what's going on). And I know if I had someone that loved me and I had a child that loved me unconditionally I wouldn't want to to die. I would be grateful for ANYTHING that would alter my thoughts of insignificance. You’re spot on dude. Even just attempting suicide can severely fuck with a child’s mind (if they’re old enough to know what’s going on). And I know if I had someone that loved me and I had a child that loved me unconditionally I wouldn’t want to to die. I would be grateful for ANYTHING that would alter my thoughts of insignificance.

]]> By: Volaju http://suicideproject.org/2010/02/the-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-all-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-38765 Volaju Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:01:13 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6902#comment-38765 I can relate but these people who have " everything" can still feel empty. These people have always felt empty and affection,friends,money,etc does not fill the hole .You talk about having a relationship can fix your suicidal ideation, it probably won't. It's a bandage that won't last, eventually you will have to face yourself and your fears,anxieties and why you want to die. I agree about the bringing children into this world part though, as an antinatalist i'm disgusted that people do this without a second thought. Having children is selfish as in you need to have a purpose, a little one to use as a crutch to guide you through this hellish world and in doing so you just continue the vicious cycle. The depressed,suicidal (usually the more intelligent ones) can see past the illusions and see life as what it really is. The only way to being "normal" is to keep lying to yourself= Delusional reprogramming (cbt,therapy), Religion (afterlife,purpose,God,everything will be alright, That guy who keeps posting his jesus shit to save others..HAH!!), Modern Slavery (work, keep busy, make the rich richer so you don't have to think,just keep going till you die ignorant), Drugs (escape and if you got the cash you can nod out till you fade away), etc The lesson/warning is: do not procreate, it's not worth it. Life is not worth it. I can relate but these people who have ” everything” can still feel empty.
These people have always felt empty and affection,friends,money,etc does not fill the hole .You talk about having a relationship can fix your suicidal ideation, it probably won’t. It’s a bandage that won’t last, eventually you will have to face yourself and your fears,anxieties and why you want to die.

I agree about the bringing children into this world part though, as an antinatalist i’m disgusted that people do this without a second thought. Having children is selfish as in you need to have a purpose, a little one to use as a crutch to guide you through this hellish world and in doing so you just continue the vicious cycle. The depressed,suicidal (usually the more intelligent ones) can see past the illusions and see life as what it really is.

The only way to being “normal” is to keep lying to yourself= Delusional reprogramming (cbt,therapy), Religion (afterlife,purpose,God,everything will be alright, That guy who keeps posting his jesus shit to save others..HAH!!), Modern Slavery (work, keep busy, make the rich richer so you don’t have to think,just keep going till you die ignorant), Drugs (escape and if you got the cash you can nod out till you fade away), etc

The lesson/warning is: do not procreate, it’s not worth it. Life is not worth it.

]]> By: crushed http://suicideproject.org/2010/02/the-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-all-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-38762 crushed Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:43:48 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6902#comment-38762 For someone who doesn't post, I find myself doing so here for the third time in less than 24 hours...weird. Maybe I just don't care anymore what I put into the ethernet (I was once burned badly for posting online and vowed never to do so again). Imagine you did have someone you love. I do. He has spent the past 15 years of his life loving me absolutely unconditionally. Then all we built was suddenly taken away (not money, people...money doesn't matter). And why? Because of MY battles with depression. And yet he continues to love me unconditionally. He sits here alone with me, the only person left. He won't jump ship. Now imagine knowing you are in some limbo. Mental health professionals can't help. Meds don't work. Your illness eats away his resources in this life....Dr. bills for treatment that doesn't work, family who doesn't understand, every moment of his free time. YOu see how tired he is, how powerless he feels. You know that, even if you pull out of the abyss this time, statistically you will only be here again...and most likely worse the next time. What was lost cannot be regained. You know your inability to move forward also has him "stuck"....he says he will not move forward without you. He will not leave you behind. But for MONTHS...you vacillate between death and an inabilty to carry through with it. Yes, death is what you seek, but you cannot take that final step. And each time you fail to carry through is one more day the person you love is stuck in your hell. I have *tried* to move forward, but I am nonfunctional. Without the "white noise" of the computer or television (both of which I hate), the pain of our reality paralyzes me. And this is all I see: my spirit was broken MONTHS ago. Other depressions have hurt, but this time I am BROKEN. And this man, who loves me completely, is dying alongside me because I am too weak to let go. What right have I to stay and continue to do this to HIM? It isn't only about me. Its certainly not about me "having" someone. It is about him. About letting HIM have a life again. What little of it I haven't already stolen. For someone who doesn’t post, I find myself doing so here for the third time in less than 24 hours…weird. Maybe I just don’t care anymore what I put into the ethernet (I was once burned badly for posting online and vowed never to do so again).

Imagine you did have someone you love. I do. He has spent the past 15 years of his life loving me absolutely unconditionally. Then all we built was suddenly taken away (not money, people…money doesn’t matter). And why? Because of MY battles with depression.

And yet he continues to love me unconditionally. He sits here alone with me, the only person left. He won’t jump ship.

Now imagine knowing you are in some limbo. Mental health professionals can’t help. Meds don’t work. Your illness eats away his resources in this life….Dr. bills for treatment that doesn’t work, family who doesn’t understand, every moment of his free time. YOu see how tired he is, how powerless he feels.

You know that, even if you pull out of the abyss this time, statistically you will only be here again…and most likely worse the next time. What was lost cannot be regained. You know your inability to move forward also has him “stuck”….he says he will not move forward without you. He will not leave you behind. But for MONTHS…you vacillate between death and an inabilty to carry through with it. Yes, death is what you seek, but you cannot take that final step.

And each time you fail to carry through is one more day the person you love is stuck in your hell. I have *tried* to move forward, but I am nonfunctional. Without the “white noise” of the computer or television (both of which I hate), the pain of our reality paralyzes me.

And this is all I see: my spirit was broken MONTHS ago. Other depressions have hurt, but this time I am BROKEN.

And this man, who loves me completely, is dying alongside me because I am too weak to let go. What right have I to stay and continue to do this to HIM? It isn’t only about me. Its certainly not about me “having” someone. It is about him. About letting HIM have a life again. What little of it I haven’t already stolen.

]]> By: asdf http://suicideproject.org/2010/02/the-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-all-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-38760 asdf Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:14:14 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6902#comment-38760 "And so. The next thing that I’ve noticed and didn’t make sense was the people who talk about their bullshit life and then mention something about their boyfriends/girlfriends. What the fuck. Now I really don’t understand how can someone who was able to get themselves a “loving partner” (put it in commas coz it sounds lame, lol) think of suicide. I mean.. I don’t know. I’ve always lived somehow differently than my friends and, like, to me – being in a relationship is like “OMG a dream come true!” and if that is to ever actually happen, I am 98% sure it would end my stupid suicidal thoughts. But, you know, maybe it’s just me. Maybe people just tend to love you and you’re just so used to it, you don’t even put it in your “cons of living” list. Whatever." very true. except im 100% sure ... it would be a dream come true to have some1 , for the first time in my life . “And so. The next thing that I’ve noticed and didn’t make sense was the people who talk about their bullshit life and then mention something about their boyfriends/girlfriends. What the fuck. Now I really don’t understand how can someone who was able to get themselves a “loving partner” (put it in commas coz it sounds lame, lol) think of suicide. I mean.. I don’t know. I’ve always lived somehow differently than my friends and, like, to me – being in a relationship is like “OMG a dream come true!” and if that is to ever actually happen, I am 98% sure it would end my stupid suicidal thoughts. But, you know, maybe it’s just me. Maybe people just tend to love you and you’re just so used to it, you don’t even put it in your “cons of living” list. Whatever.”

very true. except im 100% sure … it would be a dream come true to have some1 , for the first time in my life .

]]> By: qaz http://suicideproject.org/2010/02/the-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-all-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-38759 qaz Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:47:03 +0000 http://suicideproject.org/?p=6902#comment-38759 Hear-hear, well-said. Except the last part where you started insulting me, but other than that, generally well-said. Hear-hear, well-said.
Except the last part where you started insulting me, but other than that, generally well-said.

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