After reading so many posts on here, it’s clear to me that people struggle with society for various reasons. Sometimes the answer is the most obvious one, there’s no need to complicate it so much.
This life is not some spiritual journey (well maybe it might be for a few people but most people are not that spiritual), it’s just an experience of being human and being human is to be a part of this ‘material world’. You’re all struggling because you dislike or don’t want anything to do with society, the material world. There’s no point fighting against it, you may as well join in! I mean is death really better than living? Surely not?
You don’t need to climb to the top of the ladder, you don’t have to be rich and successful. Just join in! Society is made up of all types of people, you are no different to anyone else. If you don’t want people to dislike you for not joining in then why not just join in?
There’s very little point trying to change it or moaning about it. It’s simple; if you don’t want to be a part of society, you may as well be dead. I know that’s harsh but it’s also true. You’re sure as hell not gonna change society because the most of the population actually quite like it, so you’re fighting a loosing battle.
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Yeah whatever
Yeah whatever x 2
Except you can’t “just join in” unless you’re willing to “play the game” and abide by that game’s rules. Basically your advice is to be mindless, willfully ignorant, to “suck it up.” For some people, that is daunting, or not even an option, and it certainly isn’t living if it’s making one miserable.
Anon13: That’s what I mean ‘play the game’. Of course you’re expected the play the game, we all have to. It’s not mindless and willfully ignorant to play the game, how can you even say that? If it’s mindless for you then I agree, you best not be here, what can you do? You either contribute or you don’t – live, or die, you can’t do something in-between cause that IS mindless!
What is your idea of contribute……you know nothing about me, so how can you judge the level of my contribution to society? Who are you to judge ANYONE here? WHY are you here?
Conformist!
Anon13: YOU came onto MY post!! Not the other way around. I have no interest whatsoever in your level of contribution, I posted something that was aimed at many people on here who appear to be suicidal because they hate society. If this doesn’t apply to you then go pester someone else!
WHY are YOU here. Nasty bastard.
I think bush is right, there is no inbetween with regards to this problem with society (and it is discussed a lot on here). You cannot live in society if you don’t want to contribute, or you don’t agree with it – that will of course be a lonely and hard existence. So either kill yourself and be done with living a life that you dislike, or tow the line. Yes, I agree that to some extent that is being a ‘conformist’ but what alternative is there? There’s no need to attack bush, he/she is speaking sense, you may not like it but it makes sense at least.
Anon13: how is your situation lately? Has it improved at all? I remember your original post x
u may not like this advice,i believe anyone can take there life ,we can all go to a place in our mind that is madness ,to take ur life it is your mind becoming ur enemy ,it tricks you and ur mind becomes supressed in ward instead of outward.depression can be over come from knowledge of observing yourself and living ,stop thinking ,ur mind can become ur destroyer .ur life is a miracle ,focus on the bigger picture ..im not religious ,but taking ur life will not solve ur problems ,becoz there is no escape ,im sorry to say ,but u die in this life ,it does not end..u need to observe ur mind ,u are a miracle to be here ,when depressed ur reality is distorted ,its not normal ,it tricks you.i hope u can grasp what im saying
talktome – My situation has seen no change.
Anon13: I’m sorry to hear that. So hows your thoughts?
“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind.”
Please read my recently-made topic (and feel free to comment there): http://suicideproject.org/2010/09/what-if-the-alternative-ways-of-living/
talktome – My thoughts are suicidal and I am having daily panic attacks.
Anon13: makes me feel so helpless when I hear this. Is there still time for a change to come or do you really hold no hope anymore?
I hold some hope even though it is really what causes my panic/anxiety attacks. So to calm myself, I remind myself that I can end it. To describe my situation it’s like one of those ‘sand clocks’ – time is running out and I certainly cannot control it.
anon13 suicide is not the solution to your problem, it’s clear that you don’t want to do it, you just have a certain hurdle to overcome that’s all. If you consider suicide as a solution to a certain problem that’s crazy. I can understand people committing suicide if they no longer find happiness in anything, or they are terminally ill. But to kill yourself over a problem is crazy. Stop wallowing in panic attacks and suicidal thoughts and become ACTIVE in overcoming this problem. It will pass believe me.
outsidein : Are you a REAL person?
eatme – I am indeed “active” in attempting to fix my situation. Most of which is not within my control. I’ve explained it in at least 2 posts so I won’t reiterate. And many, many people commit suicide due to external situations, it is not always internal turmoil. But suffice it to say, I do battle internally as well and it impacts my decision to see this as a viable option if things do not go well for me.
I don’t come here to expect for people to make me feel better about suicide. But observation tells me that some will “excuse” suicide as an option for SOME people and not others based on their own personal opinions and with no regard to an individual’s situation. Just because you cannot understand me does not mean that I am nuts, or that I “don’t qualify” as someone who “gets to” kill herself. It is so not that simple and it kinda pisses me off only because I’ve seen some others here be encouraged to go through with it even though they are not facing a dire circumstance of any kind but rather because they simply don’t like the world anymore. I don’t knock them for their decision & it frustrates me that I’m spoken to like a child, as if I’m having some sort of tantrum when in reality I am in a fucked up situation with very little I can actually DO about it.
I don’t know what else to say. But I think I’m gonna give the SP site a rest.