If you do choose to sacrifice yourself it can be for absolutley anything as long as it’s a truthful answer. I’m not going to name or hint at anything because i want to see what you all decide first.
I wouldn’t want to sacrifice for anything like an ideology, dogma or belief system… even atheism, though admittedly I’m more an agnostic and still a nonbeliever. What I would sacrifice myself for though is a cause, a real cause like animal welfare or the environment, or for the principles I’ve tried to live my life by and that I place a high value on. i guess you could say the principles of tolerance, compassion and kindness and a fair go for all. But also principles founded on secularism, rationalism and intelligence and an openness to new ideas, concepts and knowledge. So I’d sacrifice for something real, something tangible and something that was worth dying for and that might make a real difference in this fucked up society…
Come to think of it I’d kill for them too, if I had to, and if that was what I was required to do. I know that’s a contradiction, but sometimes one has to make hard decisions and take drastic action if a cause really is worth dying for…
Shelly,
imagine that a son in extreme fear running away from his father who is chasing after him with a hatchet.
The religious father claim saying that his son is possessed with the evil spirit.
And it’s the voice of God telling him to do the righteous thing.
May be what you meant is just if your beloved is willing and asking you to kill and end their suffering for them.
Then what if they are in a vegetable state or simply call it a dog.
So you’ll still kill them no matter they are willing or not, and just because you yourself prefer so.
What’ll make you then. The God ? The executioner ?
The law must to be changed then. All children, especially, are belonged to, or should be possessed by the parents.
(p.s. discontinue oxygen supply to a vegetable patient is another topic, “not to save”)
Fireflieslite….”All children,especially,are belonged to,or should be possessed by the parents” PLEASE explain this????I am still crying from reading this so hopefully I am reading too much into it? I WAS possessed by my parents and want to die because of it. Also I had to agree with a vet that my BELOVED dog needed to be put down for his own sake,I was so distressed I ended up in hospital afterwards and yet, does this make me “God” “The executioner?”Please explain what you mean?I really do want to know!”Not to save” Isn’t this a twist on “help to continue suffering??” I don’t know,I really hope you reply to this and help me to understand where you are coming from.xx
Umm, it’s simple really. If the father can’t be talked down, stopped or discouraged from killing his ‘possessed’ son he himself should be killed in order to protect his son and anyone else he may feel is possessed and try to harm. Yes I’ve had pets euthanised before, and although it was painful to witness I had to cuz I loved them and wanted to be there for them. It isn’t playing god (he doesn’t exist anyway) but just taking the hard call that someone who you love deeply is in incredible pain, suffering or agony and should be set free. And yes, I’m a supporter of voluntary euthanasia…
emilylondon,
sweet love, don’t worry.
You’re different.
And you were devastated of what you’ve gone through.
You’re so full of love, just without the proper conduits of channeling.
Others in the same case might have been feeling righteous and satisfied of what one had done.
Although it may differ in actually doing the killing personally or letting others to execute the act, but the main point is you seemed weak in decision making.
Example. A victim reported missing for 1 hour, and retrieved from the water, not breathing, and no heart beat.
Some life-safer may forfeit giving any CPR at all, but some may try his best in his profession or under his own sacred justification to pump on his heart, to supply the victim with air through the mouth.
Cases like this, many are still sent to the morgue, but a few lucky some are revived.
And some revived as well as before, and some ended up in a vegetable state.
Then what’s right to save ? Can you decide on that ? Actually no definite answer !
You asked me this___“Not to save†Isn’t this a twist on “help to continue suffering??â€
Suffering ? Who ? You or the dog ?
We are not the dog, and we can’t say how the dog wants, until we decide that we are the master and we have the say.
Right or wrong ? Just decisions to make, and just don’t ever regret it afterwards.
While all conditionals possible are put on the table, just a matter of choosing.
Which is the best ? It differs in individuals, even difference in answers if time allowed.
It’s like killing is bad, right ? But you eat meat.
Parents possessed you, turning you to hell.
And you possessed your dog, and chose his time of death too.
Should you have cried. Yes, and you did.
To crucify you or your parents ?
Mistake or not I couldn’t even say for you.
But it’s definitely a life lesson you should learn from it.
Not that the blame to you or to the veterinarian or even to your parents, of who’s the executioner. It’s just a process in life.
It’s the dog’s death (and your possession by parents ended) should be treated as a valuable lesson to your life.
Knowing that possessing can devastate !
And possessing is not necessarily one’s way to hate, just to realize the undermining effect could cause to one’s emotion.
In dying to protest ? It’s better die trying to put it right.
Start with your son !
One came out from the abused environment, and would have learned something from it.
Usually by doing the same when starting one’s own family, or to the extreme, spoiling or letting one’s child be in his own way.
Well, you might say giving the child freedom is not possessing, then don’t ever complain when possession is deemed unlimited to him.
to be honest anybody and anything if im in a situation where i have the power to do something for a complete stranger ill do it, even if it means my own life, if you dont live for something, you die for nothing
Wow. That’s some nice answers.
I think I would sacrifice myself to save a person who was in immediate danger. Anyone. No matter how much they hate me. Even those who have bullied me my whole life. But…I guess those are just words, huh?
I’d sacrifice myself for anybody. Literally anybody in the world. Not just because I’m suicidal, but because I couldn’t live with myself if I had the opportunity to save someone didn’t take it. I seriously would die in the place of someone else quite happily. I don’t even question it, really. I was talking to friends the other day and I was really surprised that they didn’t feel the same, I guess this need to save people is something I’ve always had so the feeling’s completely natural to me and unquestionable.
I would sacrifice myself for any or all suicidal people if it would somehow give them hope. It is those who hurt the most that I would most cherish the opportunity to express love towards.
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“If atheism wants martyrs, let it say so and my blood will be ready.” – de Sade.
This.
Someone who I thought could survive better than I could.
THANK YOU. yea I’d sacrifice myself for atheism
i would sacrifice for my family and friends
I wouldn’t want to sacrifice for anything like an ideology, dogma or belief system… even atheism, though admittedly I’m more an agnostic and still a nonbeliever. What I would sacrifice myself for though is a cause, a real cause like animal welfare or the environment, or for the principles I’ve tried to live my life by and that I place a high value on. i guess you could say the principles of tolerance, compassion and kindness and a fair go for all. But also principles founded on secularism, rationalism and intelligence and an openness to new ideas, concepts and knowledge. So I’d sacrifice for something real, something tangible and something that was worth dying for and that might make a real difference in this fucked up society…
I’d gladly sacrifice myself for my friends, family or pets too if I had no other choice. I’m not afraid of death, in fact I’d welcome it…
Come to think of it I’d kill for them too, if I had to, and if that was what I was required to do. I know that’s a contradiction, but sometimes one has to make hard decisions and take drastic action if a cause really is worth dying for…
Shelly,
imagine that a son in extreme fear running away from his father who is chasing after him with a hatchet.
The religious father claim saying that his son is possessed with the evil spirit.
And it’s the voice of God telling him to do the righteous thing.
May be what you meant is just if your beloved is willing and asking you to kill and end their suffering for them.
Then what if they are in a vegetable state or simply call it a dog.
So you’ll still kill them no matter they are willing or not, and just because you yourself prefer so.
What’ll make you then. The God ? The executioner ?
The law must to be changed then. All children, especially, are belonged to, or should be possessed by the parents.
(p.s. discontinue oxygen supply to a vegetable patient is another topic, “not to save”)
I’d sacrifice myself for ……myself…..peace…..to put an end to this pain,to…….NOT wake up to another day of…this.
Fireflieslite….”All children,especially,are belonged to,or should be possessed by the parents” PLEASE explain this????I am still crying from reading this so hopefully I am reading too much into it? I WAS possessed by my parents and want to die because of it. Also I had to agree with a vet that my BELOVED dog needed to be put down for his own sake,I was so distressed I ended up in hospital afterwards and yet, does this make me “God” “The executioner?”Please explain what you mean?I really do want to know!”Not to save” Isn’t this a twist on “help to continue suffering??” I don’t know,I really hope you reply to this and help me to understand where you are coming from.xx
Umm, it’s simple really. If the father can’t be talked down, stopped or discouraged from killing his ‘possessed’ son he himself should be killed in order to protect his son and anyone else he may feel is possessed and try to harm. Yes I’ve had pets euthanised before, and although it was painful to witness I had to cuz I loved them and wanted to be there for them. It isn’t playing god (he doesn’t exist anyway) but just taking the hard call that someone who you love deeply is in incredible pain, suffering or agony and should be set free. And yes, I’m a supporter of voluntary euthanasia…
ffl sometimes killing is justified, but should be an act of last resort…
emilylondon,
sweet love, don’t worry.
You’re different.
And you were devastated of what you’ve gone through.
You’re so full of love, just without the proper conduits of channeling.
Others in the same case might have been feeling righteous and satisfied of what one had done.
Although it may differ in actually doing the killing personally or letting others to execute the act, but the main point is you seemed weak in decision making.
Example. A victim reported missing for 1 hour, and retrieved from the water, not breathing, and no heart beat.
Some life-safer may forfeit giving any CPR at all, but some may try his best in his profession or under his own sacred justification to pump on his heart, to supply the victim with air through the mouth.
Cases like this, many are still sent to the morgue, but a few lucky some are revived.
And some revived as well as before, and some ended up in a vegetable state.
Then what’s right to save ? Can you decide on that ? Actually no definite answer !
You asked me this___“Not to save†Isn’t this a twist on “help to continue suffering??â€
Suffering ? Who ? You or the dog ?
We are not the dog, and we can’t say how the dog wants, until we decide that we are the master and we have the say.
Right or wrong ? Just decisions to make, and just don’t ever regret it afterwards.
While all conditionals possible are put on the table, just a matter of choosing.
Which is the best ? It differs in individuals, even difference in answers if time allowed.
It’s like killing is bad, right ? But you eat meat.
Parents possessed you, turning you to hell.
And you possessed your dog, and chose his time of death too.
Should you have cried. Yes, and you did.
To crucify you or your parents ?
Mistake or not I couldn’t even say for you.
But it’s definitely a life lesson you should learn from it.
Not that the blame to you or to the veterinarian or even to your parents, of who’s the executioner. It’s just a process in life.
It’s the dog’s death (and your possession by parents ended) should be treated as a valuable lesson to your life.
Knowing that possessing can devastate !
And possessing is not necessarily one’s way to hate, just to realize the undermining effect could cause to one’s emotion.
In dying to protest ? It’s better die trying to put it right.
Start with your son !
One came out from the abused environment, and would have learned something from it.
Usually by doing the same when starting one’s own family, or to the extreme, spoiling or letting one’s child be in his own way.
Well, you might say giving the child freedom is not possessing, then don’t ever complain when possession is deemed unlimited to him.
to be honest anybody and anything if im in a situation where i have the power to do something for a complete stranger ill do it, even if it means my own life, if you dont live for something, you die for nothing
Wow. That’s some nice answers.
I think I would sacrifice myself to save a person who was in immediate danger. Anyone. No matter how much they hate me. Even those who have bullied me my whole life. But…I guess those are just words, huh?
Hmm i guess as long as i didnt hate the person/idea id sacrafice myself for anything, but its not really a sacrafice if ur welcoming it isit?
I’d sacrifice myself for anybody. Literally anybody in the world. Not just because I’m suicidal, but because I couldn’t live with myself if I had the opportunity to save someone didn’t take it. I seriously would die in the place of someone else quite happily. I don’t even question it, really. I was talking to friends the other day and I was really surprised that they didn’t feel the same, I guess this need to save people is something I’ve always had so the feeling’s completely natural to me and unquestionable.
I would sacrifice myself for any or all suicidal people if it would somehow give them hope. It is those who hurt the most that I would most cherish the opportunity to express love towards.