I am not suicidal, nor have I been directly affected by suicide itself, but i do know some that have been and seen the effects it has had on their lives.
I came across this site and as my nametag suggests, i was curious!
I am shocked by some of the things I have read on here, people offering ideas on how best to commit suicide for instance.
I’m not sure I agree that the act of suicide is necessarily always the ‘easy way out’, its impossible to know the reasoning in someone else’s mind. But having seen its effects on those left behind, it is fair to say the pain, grief, heartache, loneliness and depression it causes, could easily be so much harder.
I am no expert, its just an opinion. I emplore anyone who reads this that is contemplating taking their own life, for whatever reason, just think of what will be left. Think of the people in your lives, your family friends and loved ones and how your actions will affect the rest of their lives. Think about seeking help before you make that ‘choice’.
There are many people who have been where you are now, and many people who will never again see one of their loved ones ever again.
People on this site, in that position right now, yet still willing to help if you’ll let them.
Choose life……
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That’s a great post, truly. It is not as simple as you express it though. Many people have abnormal brain chemistry, illnesses that western and eastern medicine can not address. You need to consider what it may be like, being stuck between a rock and a hard place. In your mind, perhaps you can see the possibilities of help. But in others reality, their suffering is a daily occurrence where no improvement is made and it is a lonely battle. Be thankful you are not in that predicament, as it exists with many people. There are over 6.5 billion people in this world. The odds are, many will not survive what it dishes out, that is the reality. If someone goes, they are meant to go, otherwise they live-that is how the universe works my friend. The cycle continues, and everyone has free will to end their life should they feel they have had enough…. Suicide is not the preferred course of action for anyone-and I know the pain of losing people…it hurts, but I have survived and I cherish, respect, and celebrate them. It’s their decision. The problem is FEAR. If there was a system in place, a safety net for people who are in trouble and could express their wishes freely-we wouldn’t have these forums. But suicide is taboo, so we live in denial and this is why we have these forums….this is why train/bus employees suffer trauma because our society can’t get it together, and face this reality. If there was a system in place, people could cry, and say good bye to their loved ones and it wouldn’t have to be a jarring shock to hear that their loved one shot them self etc. Sweden and Oregon are the only places I know that have something of a system in place, but the person in trouble requires a little more say than is allowed. And determining a terminal illness is sometimes difficult for a doctor to see when he/she is not in that person’s body. I choose life, but many do not get to choose a life worth living. Sad, but that’s how it goes. There’s two sides to everything brother. This is a peaceful post, with some added awareness. I hope it broadens your awareness and perspective. Cheers!
Also you mention your loved ones. There are some people out there who have NO ONE. Not a single friend or family member to speak of. They are on this site wondering what they are going to do. Living a life of the lowest mediocrity and repetition. Some people are just given a bad deck or cards with no turns to play. These are the people who have talents and skills to offer but for what ever reason they get held back in every which way. Again it all comes down to the deck of cards.
Hi, thanks for the response. I do understand what you are saying. Which is why I stated that suicide isn’t always the easy way out. I understand that every individual case has individual circumstances behind the event.
When it comes to illness, terminal illnesses that leave the person no real way of leading a happy, or fulfilling or even painless way of life and they wish to bring it to an end, I am of the belief that it should be their right to decide that.
I do also understand that mental illnesses are far more difficult to diagnose and even understand, but not in anyway less serious. I know what you’re saying.
I guess its just I feel that has more chance of being overcome than the incurable physical ones. People around are prepared and ready for the inevitable event of death, rather than the surprise of suicide that leaves the loved ones left behind more devastation and no understanding of ‘why’ that choice was made?
Fair point, Select,
I suppose from groups and forums I have seen posted on this site as well as elsewhere I just believe there are always people out there that are willing and wanting to give support, advice and just be someone to talk to.
We are never truly ‘alone’…
Zeke* sorry, not select.
Choose Life…..we are one of those families left behind. We have been nearly 10 years, living with the consequences of my husband’s suicide, he hung himself in our family home whilst we were all at home. My four children and me that is. They were just tiny, young and innocent and never deserved to see their dad like that. Devastating, does not describe it. There are no words to describe what it is like. Thank you for your positive post. May be you would like to come comment on my daughter’s group on Face Book. She is Holly Bryan and the link is
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7383862180
Once again thank you for your inspiration and I only hope it will save someone right now. We can only try. x
For everyone who says made comments on this that shed not hope on the situation I believe you need to begin to look at things in a new light. If you continually speak works of hopelessness what do you expect you are contributing to the situation?
And as for some people have “NO ONE” that is so far from the truth. You may not agree with me, but as far as I’m concerned everyone no matter what earthly relationship they might not have are loved by the King of Kings and the Lord of Lord, Jesus Christ, Yeshua, Jehovah, and Yahweh. He is Savior to so many and can be to anyone who wants Him. Many of the people who have accepted Him are ones that had no one on this earth. And there are so many people who love God that would absolutely welcome anyone in their lives no matter who they are, myself included.
Thank you for whomever wrote this post, I admire your hope and efforts 🙂
Love,
Adrianne
Tina, I think its great what you and Holly are doing on here. I too hope you manage to help people through and I’m truly sorry for your loss. To have come out the other side and offer the support you are speaks volumes. x
aaltera, I only speak my feelings on this matter. I’m not actually a religious person st all, but I believe strongly in the love of man. There are always people, Tina and Holly, for instance, and many many more who are caring and supportive enough to make a difference. As I said, we are never ‘truly alone’.
xx
Thank you Curious. I know myself I have been on here since 11 am this morning. Tbh I am drained at the moment. My problem is I want to help everyone and I beat myself up about it when I cant. As you will see of all the recent posts I have answered everyone of them.
I am glad I found this site because I can relate to many of the things, if not all, that people here are going through. Like you said we have come out the other side, so I refuse to believe there is a time for giving up.
I wish people would visit mine and my mums group on facebook. Its called ‘Families dealing with suicide’. We have over 500 members, most of which have lost someone they love to suicide. If people could just have a look and see the pain, it may make them realise that ther is another way.
Sending my love to all x
I completely understand Curious 🙂 I just know a lot of people on this site need some love and I’m glad others are spreading it 🙂 And I feel the same way Hollyb, for me personally I feel like Satan trying to tell me I can’t help anyone and I get so close to giving up, but then I remember that if I could just help one person find the love and peace I know that this is all worth it 🙂
Bless both of you and I hope your efforts will succeed (I know they will!) 🙂
Love,
Adrianne
Holly, you have been busy!…
I’d say your experiences, and your mum’s, probably give you more qualifications on this subject than many psychiatrists. The ability to empathise with people as well as just sympathise. First hand experience on what its like to go through this. Be very proud of how you have turned out and of your strength and will. You mustn’t, however, ware yourself down in your attempts, or ‘beat yourself up’ if you can’t help. I understand as proof that there is a future, but not everybody wants to be helped unfortunately.
I know you will keep fighting for your beliefs and I sincerely hope your efforts do succeed in helping. Keep on fighting and if just one person listens and it makes a difference in their life, its worth it.. xx
Curious that means so much to me… i actually have a tear running down my face. I put my heart and soul into this… I cannot stand the thought of people having to deal with this alone. We as a family had each other but that is it. Luckily it was enough to get us through and turn our lives around.
I have however since being on here felt very drained and am starting to feel slightly useless again. I know I cant help everyone, its just hard to watch people fall apart and knowing that some dont want help.
Thank you again xxx