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I have no emotions.  Just chemical reactions in my brain and body acting and reacting to internal/external stimuli and previous experiences.

I have no consciousness.   Just bioelectric and biochemical activity that gives the perception of self awareness.

I have no desire.  Just instinct honed by evolution for the species to survive as a whole and for as many individuals as possible to pass on their genetic blueprints.

I have no family or friends.  Just other creatures with whom cooperating in a certain timeframe is more beneficial than trying to compete for resources.

I have no importance or purpose.  Just another member of an animal species hardwired to compete for resources on this planet.  And hardwired to compete with other members of my species for better and more resources to raise the chances of the survival of my genes.

I am a random collection of subatomic partcles out of the nearly limitless number of similar ones in the multiverse.

Logic. Objective.  Proven/Theoretical science.  Broken down without all the extras.  Part of a species that is not actually human.

See my humanity was not burned out of me by bad experiences although I had my share.  It was never there to begin with.  My only capacity was to feel bad for those who were injured and hurt and to help them when practical.  Nothing else that is part of humanity mattered to me.   And maintaining this existence has become less than pragmatic because of age and circumstances in general.

For many of you, this is not that path.  Your tao has to be adapted to, added to, created by, adhered to, enjoyed by, tolerated by, celebrated by, and given life by you and those who you allow to help you. 

Go forth living and embrace life.  Band together with others who feel the same and support and enable those who have fallen down.   No it is not fair.  It never was.  It will not be until humanity graduates from base instincts as a whole which may never happen.   Choosing to live requires that you accept all facets, the pain and the pleasure.

Elders inspire the youth to fight.  Youth learn from the elders and blaze your own trails.



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truthbetold 5/8/2012 - 10:23 am

I’m 24 .. I have this severe lack of desire (I only desire food and sex) and I no longer believe in any cause .. I feel like I’ve been stripped off beliefs & social conditioning that were meant to make me forget about how life really absurd is

I’m almost sure I’ll leave this world by my own will, it’s a matter of my intuition telling me when it’s time

NotReallyHereAtAll 5/8/2012 - 11:01 am

Life just feels so completely meaningless. We are simply animals taught to believe we’re better than, smarter than, more sophisticated than, more emotional than and more worthy than all other animals. Nothing we do makes sense and we seem to be genetically programmed to want things we neither need nor deserve and more of them as well.
I feel like a shell of a person because there are so many emotions I’m expected to feel that I just don’t. It’s like I’m not real. Like I’m just too aware of how meaningless life is. I often believe that if more people were aware of how useless our lives are, there’d be far more people dead than alive, because it is all so useless and futile.

Dawg 5/8/2012 - 11:13 am

Primal. Factual. Awesomeness.

although I’d argue that our “graduation” won’t happen until humanity as a whole stops suppressing others ability to exercise their base instincts – when we truly grasp cooperation over competition … the battle over trinkets must end


truthbetold 5/8/2012 - 12:01 pm

notreallyhereatall, I can relate to being too aware

4 example, I used to enjoy watching soccer, to root for a few teams etc .. with my ‘too aware’ glasses, soccer = 20 people chasing after a ball for 90 mins .. relationships = use someone to escape loneliness and/or fill a void

I wish there was some way to tone it down

Dawg 5/8/2012 - 12:22 pm

Why does “knowing” soccer is basically pointless change the enjoyment of it? It’s still fun to watch/play … unless your teams suck

As for relationships, there is a primal requirement for them besides to “escape loneliness” … they are required to advance the lineage/genes and to protect and educate the offspring.

all work and no play makes jack a dull boy.

There’s nothing wrong with having fun and enjoying life when we can. most animals play in some form or fashion. it stands to reason the human animal should as well.

play dawg

NotReallyHereAtAll 5/8/2012 - 12:26 pm

truthbetold, Yeah, it’s kind of like we’re children who’ve taken of our rose-tinted glasses and lost our innocence and realised the truth behind the illusion of beauty.

truthbetold 5/8/2012 - 3:01 pm

@dawg: there’s a lot of things I no longer enjoy doing because my awareness glasses will interfere and remind me there’s no real reason to be happy about this or that, it just happens .. those glasses are really an enthusiasm killer .. same thing goes for sadness

I’d love to go back to being able to experience joy from seemingly shallow hobbies, sadness from seemingly shallow experiences

U.N. Owen 5/8/2012 - 5:22 pm

I totally get that. No desire for anything except for sustenance and to air one’s thoughts.

Good points. Makes sense. It is a hamster running on the wheel of his cage.


You might be right. Differences should not force us to be opponents.

inf1n1 5/8/2012 - 8:12 pm

your perception is flawed it is just a game you play with yourself an illusion that you are not the body you are an immortal soul a collection of thoughts and past experiences in conciousness beyond this is pure awareness primordial being the deathless self beyond space and time is eternal bliss perfection here and now within. Attaining Desirelessness the mind that by which it is purified and enabled to return to its essential nature

jcurrenm18 5/9/2012 - 12:26 am


U.N. Owen 5/9/2012 - 5:43 pm


Any solid proof of that?

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