what’s the point of being alive ?
chase after futile things, do whatever it takes to not think much of the triviality of life ?
give society the power and right to tell you how to feel, think, judge .. tell you how to live ?
hide yourself behind appearances to appear better than the next (wo)man ?
help people so you can tell yourself you’re making the world a better place ? (no offense to therapists, healers etc since they’re helpful to some)
I’m gonna give this world the opportunity to surprise me, to have me thinking: “wow it’s truly worth being here” and believe it
if I haven’t changed my mind in 3 to 4 weeks, I’ll more than likely leave this world with zero regrets
to stay here for reasons I’m expected to believe in pisses me off
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the point to being alive is to learn what you need to while you’re here. You’ll die when it’s your time, there’s no getting around that.
prebirth contracts, life lessons, spiritual growth etc
I’ve documented myself on those things .. the thing is if you were as detached as I am, you wouldn’t give a shit
I don’t give a shit. Man up or stop complaining.
if you’re trying to get an emotional reaction out of me, I can only laugh at your attempt :):P
and back to the kitchen she went
That’s a start I suppose. I suspect you’re not not as much of a ***** as you seem to be. 🙂 (Thats a stretch)
definitely not a *****, more of an occasional drama king .. where’s my sandwich lucy ?
It’s at the all-you-can-eat shit sandwhich buffet? Didn’t you get the invitation?
what ? why should I be invited to a shitty food buffet ?
I care about your nutrition a lot. People think you’re special, you deserve junk food just like everyone else.
I don’t mind junk food that much but:
aren’t you’re trying too hard to be a reality check ?
What is reality?
This website? Talking to Europeans? Ha!
you’re getting too deep for my ability to grasp things .. must be all the junk food
I’ve been down this road before and you are just about to the end of it. The simple answer is that there is no inherent value in life (unless you believe in a god who gives life some sort of purpose – I don’t believe in a god so I’m not going to go any further on that topic). Seeing as life lacks any value, there is no reason to live and there is no reason to die. We exist but our sadness means nothing in this world.
Seeing no inherent meaning, you are free to substitute your own. Nature has provided its own form of meaning: preference. Most people never question their own life in this way but preference is where we derive morality from.
I would like to say that this is a reason to continue living, but it isn’t. If you prefer to be dead, then maybe you should kill yourself. There is no motivational answers in this direction.
However, I also find this view of the world refreshing in some ways. If you don’t want to do something: don’t do it. You can always kill yourself later if you want to. Try to enjoy yourself a little. Try to free yourself from the bonds society has placed on you.
Sorry I don’t have a more motivational answer.
@ suicidetalk; You rock.
@truthbetold; You just sound angry. Try and get laid.
@suicidetalk: I hear you
I’ve been trying to push back the limits upbringing & education tried to impose on my mind, been trying to discover my potential for +5 years .. I’ve reached this point where I feel trapped in some 3D prison and that death will be my only way to break free
hopefully I’ll find a lifestyle that doesn’t make me feel trapped
the funny thing is you have people trying to hold you back, trying to discover what your ‘problem’ is .. what a wonderful planet to live on 🙂
You don’t need people to tell you whats wrong though, do you? You already know…
@lucy4: thanks
@truthbetold:
Your life will probably not be the same again. It is hard to go back after being suicidal. Once you ask yourself if life is worth living, you keep asking yourself over and over. It is at the point where I am constantly assessing my will to live without even stopping to think about it.
However, there is something I want you to do in 3 weeks you said you will live. Ever day, find 3 new things to be thankful for – even something small. Did you find some money you didn’t know you had? Maybe your mood has improved slightly. Whatever it is, list 3 of them ever day. This is proven to help train your brain to search for positive aspects of life.
There is a video about this which is quite good. I will try to find it as it is quite good.
In response to your comment: I know how you feel. I felt trapped for a few years. Even now, I feel like I am just beginning to see the way out. I’m not sure how I will do it, but I think I can. For now, that is all that matters. The world is changing – fast – and I think it is worth hanging on for the ride just to see where it takes us. You can always “escape†with death, but is that a real escape?
Of course, that is for you to answer.
I got laid like 2 weeks ago, aquarius4
sure, it makes you feel euphoric for a day 🙂
too bad it won’t shut down an overthinking mind 🙁
You have a good memory. I’m glad that you found happiness.
Here is the video:
http://www.ted.com/talks/shawn_achor_the_happy_secret_to_better_work.html
@truthbetold:
I like how you have a ‘problem.’ I agree, it is not really a problem for us in some ways. Being ‘detached’ (as you put it) gives us the advantage of always having a way out of (almost) any situation. I have come to enjoy this ‘problem’ and the associated philosophical ideas.
@lucy4:
I cannot speak for him, but maybe by “discover” he means that he is still exploring the idea of suicide. It is interesting to live like this because you see the world in a new way. It is almost worth living just to understand this new view on life and that is something I’m doing to this day.
I like to say that I have gone to the gates of hell and returned alive. Not only have I come to grips with death, but I feel like I have a better understanding of how the world works. Morality is a tricky topic to discuss but it makes more sense when approached from the preference angle. Death seems much more trivial (and sometimes desirable) in this context.
Or maybe he means that other people are trying to diagnose him with various mental ‘disorders.’ But I cannot know that for sure.
@suicidetalk: what annoys me is I have to deal with apathy when I’m not depressed .. I’ll definitely try your method
@lucy4: thank you .. I hope you’ll find it too
An over-thinking mind doesn’t need to be stopped, it needs to be re-purposed to finding what you can be happy for or to find a way to escape.
Apathy is only a problem if you think it is.
I’m going to go to sleep. Hope I helped somewhat 🙂
the possibility to experiment and explore freely is a big thing to us free spirits .. I don’t about you suicidetalk, but that possibility comes before happiness in my book .. the ideal is of course to find a path that combines both
you were definitely helpful .. good night ST
You did suicidetalk; I just cracked open Heineken #16 & I have much to think about. Thank You.
what’s the point of being alive ?
for me there never was any point. other people gave reasons and out of stupidity I tried to use their reasons.
chase after futile things, do whatever it takes to not think much of the triviality of life ?
to tell the truth I have found nothing worth the effort it has taken me to achieve except physical conditioning, martial arts skill, and objective thinking/science.
give society the power and right to tell you how to feel, think, judge .. tell you how to live ?
in the usa that sort of was what they assumed when they started assigning people 9 digit numbers for identification reasons. oh you are free but we need you to use this number for everything to make it easier (for us to keep track of you) for you to live.
hide yourself behind appearances to appear better than the next (wo)man ? funny thing. have always tried to appear worse than others and felt like all others were better than me.
help people so you can tell yourself you’re making the world a better place ?
nope. usually help was offered because they either wanted or needed help and I happened to be around at that particular time.
man I often imagine how much better this world could be, only if .. all I’ll be asking the universe is to die a little after my 25th birthday