What kind of world do we live in?

Where words are used to make others feel like shit and break people’s spirits. Where actions are used to break people’s bones. Where people use others to make themselves feel better and get better things. 

Where people have a materialistic view on everything. When someone acts different, then they are looked down upon. Society is fucked up. Why do we keep on trying to thrive? We cause others to feel more pain than pleasure. So much so that they can’t ever recover. 

Why do we think that having someone living is much better than freedom through death? The basis of a democracy is to let people do what they will with their own life liberty and “pursuit of happiness” or whatever you’d like to put it as. Taking our own life is what we will do. 

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Rogue: “But the other side says, we choose to live because of the pleasure. The pleasure is more than worth the pain. We live to thrive, and some who believe in god, they choose to live to show god that they are worth saving. That even in the toughest of times, they stay true to their god.”

Nathan (Me): But the other side, my side, says that God looks away from us. We are mistakes, imperfect. The all powerful god supposedly created the perfect people and the wicked snake fooled them. Yet Jesus is perfect and he wasnt foolish. How can that be? How are we gods image? Is he corrupt, is he a sadist? Is he a masochist?

God is everything, so he is everything bad? The bible was written by man, and its a black book. Normally that means evil, (like bananas) something that rots, but you think its sweet. 

Rogue: “Yes, but he is trying to help you whenever possible. He listens to you when no one else will.” 

Nathan: he seeks to help us? He doesn’t help, he never replies. 

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Well this world is corrupt and fucked up. I keep thinking of how religion has many loopholes. It seems made up, written by man. How does the bible stay the same, even through many translations. It’s bullshit, and the more we study it, the more people that study it, the easier it is to corrupt it and bend it to fit someone’s agenda. 

Nathan: People are born evil, according to Thomas Hobbes. They are brutes, only cause evil in this world. 

Rogue: “People are born good. That is the thoughts ofJohn Locke. They are given natural rights, rights they are born with, and they are life, liberty and property.”

Nathan: yeah and we have the right to do what we want (liberty) [as long as it doesn’t interfere with others natural rights], with our life and property. That means if we want to destroy our property or lose it, we can, and the same with our lives. 

Rogue: “But it harms others’ lives by causing them despair after losing their loved ones.”

Nathan: So it’s wrong to take one’s pain and let someone suffer. But it’s alright to let that someone feel good while the other suffers? 

Rogue: ” There are better alternatives to death. They can improve their lives if they try. Just wait a few years and things are sure to change for the best, it can’t get worse.”

Nathan: And if you’re wrong?

What if those alternatives don’t work, and we prolong our suffering. Torture is to cause someone pain and suffering, usually to extract something from them. Extracting some happiness from someone to better yourself is better? That’s selfish. 

Rogue: “And so is taking your own life to end your pain and give it to another person instead. ”

Nathan: it’s much easier for one to forget someone than to continuously suffer in misery… How about we don’t give people the selfishness routine as it can’t be weighted by who suffers more, before or after ones death. Anyways death is a natural occurrence. It helps stimulate population control, as Thomas Malthus said. 

Rogue: “People are meant to live and prosper, not wither and die.”

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Also people avoid getting pissy about a facebook version of this site. If someone uses your email on google, they can find your posts. And the group is secret, you can only get in if someone on the inside refers you to it and an admin accepts it. Let me repeat myself. It’s secret!!! Use my email to find me on facebook to join in. It’s a more personal experience where you get to meet people from the site, whether they use their normal account or a new one. Search me up on my email: garcianathan@rocketmail.com . I’m Nathan Garcia obviously. 

Good mood, listening to atmosphere radio on iheartradio.com :P.