I think ive cracked something, infact I know I have . As most people know men are extremely more likely to commit suicide than women. I read that 80% of suicides are men and 74% of the time it is white males.
I wonder how much this ratio has to do with the relationship between men and women sexually and love wise. black men are generally wanted more.
women are extremely personal in my experience and really quite unforgiving on the large.
They dont really give mankind much (no offence) obviously this is a generalisation, but women are usually difficult to please and for men suffering and in bad places they really do have almost zero chance.
this means that women dont support us, not like we do them, we are simple and that works in most womens favour. If a woman is down and in a bad condition even if not physically perfectly suiting to the eye they have a much bigger chance of finding love and a relationship and of also being wanted for sex . Being wanted for sex probably is a reason why the female suicide rate is so low.
most suicides are undoubtedly to do with sex and love. wether its because of having it and it failing or not having it.
women dont see the beauty (physically) like we would do looking at a woman. this works in womens favour and it works against men.
On dating sites women get all the messages and men get almost none. some do get none even with effort put in on there profiles.  while women with rubbish profiles saying nothing at all still get messages.  how many of these guys getting no messages and no replys are  in suicide crisises?
thats just going to make it all worse
black men are seen as a more sexual figure so probably do much better by skin alone. To me that explains perfectly why its usually white men
men commit suicide far more because women are generally selfish when it comes to sex and love, if a mans down and suicidal he will usually have a bad self image and lack confidence because of his condition . women worship confidence so they become a part of the mans unfortunate place . this is why suicide exists in this world because its a negative place with alot of people who are not very caring, in my personal oppinion the women have the most fortunate and good deal by being the opposite of men .  People look down too much on people who are down and this only works for the down. When i was down in my worst place the only thing id recieve from most women would be bickering, critisism and disgust.
Its deffinite in my eyes, men commit suicide more because of women .
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Ill be honest, this makes sense.. although im not really sure to how accurate this can actually be.
Your theory is bullshit. If you’re going to say white men are worse off than everyone else, you are deluded. Sure women get more attention on dating sites. They also are paid much less, suffer more rape and physical abuse, have lower access to good education and mug higher incidence of mental illness (because of ye misogynist society we live in).
Women are 3 times more likely to attempt suicide. Men are twice as likely to succeed. This is purely based on the fact that men choose more effective means (guns) and women chose less violent and less effective means (overdose).
Whites are more likely to succeed because they are more priveledged, and there is a link between priveledge and suicide. In poor countries where people are starving an working all the time, the suicide rate is almost zero. Only rich priveledged countries have high suicide rate. Ergo black people being under priveledged in USA are less likely to think about suicide – they’re too busy surviving
You get what you give. If yr going to criticise women, don’t be surprised when that’s what you get in return.
It sounds like you’ve had a rough experience with women, and I’m sorry that when you were at your lowest point all you got was – as you put it – bickering, criticism and disgust.I think I agree with you in that men commit suicide more because of women, but I’d argue the same goes for the other side: women commit suicide more because of men. I find the most recurring theme behind depression and suicide is the unbearable isolation and disconnection from the world and other people, (and with that comes the inability to find purpose, to cope, to find pleasure in life, to motivate oneself, to see one’s own worth) and either gender can do that to each other.I’m new here, and this is my first post so if what I’m about to say is out of line here please forgive me. I don’t mean any offence, and merely want to stick up for my female counterparts.In my personal experience, I have found that it is men who look at physical beauty more than women. Painman, though you say men are more able to see physical beauty in women, I don’t know if that is enough. Personally, I don’t find any satisfaction in being wanted merely for my body or face, I want a man to love my smile, my sense of humour, the thoughts I think, the things I dream about. It’s the connection that is important, not simply the presence of another person. To suggest the females rates of suicide are lower because females are wanted for sex, cheapens and demeans us.I’d like to mention that though men have higher rates of complete suicide, women have higher rates of attempts. These are purely statistics, and you read into them what you will. There are many theories why this is so: the suicide method chosen plays an obvious role, however the gender paradigm and different expectations of females and males plays a critical role.Females are raised in an environment where it is more acceptable to discuss emotions and issues with their friends. Sharing personal information deepens relationships and bonds, and is therapeutic in itself regardless whether the person privy to the information is able to offer advice, Being connected to others and having meaningful relationships is a strong protective factor against suicide. Even in this day and age, it is usually the female partner who has the most responsibility of children in a relationship, and in divorce, it is usually the female who gain custody of the children. Having someone depend on you, and being responsible for someone else’s wellbeing, is another strong protective factor.Women are more likely to reach for help, whereas men are expected to soldier on stoically. Women see doctors far more than men – not only does this aid in early referral to mental health services but good physical health plays a major role in mental state. If a man is struggling, society as a whole pins him as weak leaving him fearful to seek assistance. (There’s a campaign to bring awareness to this called “Soften The F Up “)There’s a whole host of other factors but in essence, I think societal pressure cause suicide. It’s the way we are programmed to think, the expectations placed on us, that we place on others and the expectations we ourselves have. Things are changing, but we haven’t progressed very far from the days where people with mental illnesses were put in jails, and with that thought still looming over us makes outlooks appear bleak.
I take it you are female then? well it must of hit a nerve so it aint that much bull. you people when it comes to men think you are messiahs, and your so blatently not. you are generally moved by anything that apears negative for the man. this is because you are negative moved because most women are actually very small. some men are too but not quite as many! this is not bull your message was bull so i didnt even bother reading past the first few lines.
Your post is just insulting to me both as a woman and a person of color. I’ve been depressed since I was a teenager. Whenever I sought out help and received a negative reaction, it was always from a male. I had one male friend tell me I was only seeking attention. I had an ex-boyfriend shut me out and completely ignore me. My own father has been mostly apathetic to my plight. For many women there is always an a pressure to be cheerful and happy. When we aren’t, we’re called “overly-emotional”. Yea women don’t have to work hard for sex but they have to work hard for respect. They have to constantly worry about being perceived either as a whore or a prude. They have to bend over backwards just to be even considered for high position of authority. Black men maybe desired be they are also the most feared and misunderstood. They have to deal with racial prejudices everyday. Personally as a woman of color, I have to deal with people underestimating me because they either think I’m less intelligent or they think I only got my position in life because of some special privilege. I have to work twice as hard just to be perceived as equal to a white man. You don’t seem to realize how much you are favored in this society.When I see posts like this I just want to cry because it confirms that I am invisible in this society.
and by the way mrs no so much (pun intended!) the very act of really being serious about commiting suicide is actually doing it, women fail so much because there propped up by men . if someone fails at suicide because of a weak method (weak suits ya well dunnit!) then its probably because of not a strong desire .
At the end of the day, it’s the person pulling the proverbial trigger and ending their life.
Not that I am bashing suicide victims, or saying what they did is wrong, or that it wasn’t entirely their fault; but they chose to die instead of seeking help/becoming someone new/etc. Of course this varies from case to case, because every one is UNIQUE and statistics are just numbers, not people/emotions/experiences.
You cannot say for sure why x number of people killed them self for x reason. It’s unfair to the deceased.
I don’t believe in statistics. Did you know that 46% of all statistics are made up on the spot
you cant get away from the heavy statistics that are obviously calculated from the result of knowing how some one died. I have lived to understand what i am saying and I am telling you women are very unsuportive when it comes to men in bad places. I have kinda been with women who are in bad places, doesnt bother me, they still get BF’s.
Ultimately, it’s the failure of one to realize they only need themselves to get better, because you can only find true love once you love your self.
Furthermore, just because it’s a calculation of HOW someone died, doesn’t mean it’s a calculation of WHY someone died. The WHY Is something intangible; something we cannot grasp or understand.
Painman, no matter what you say, statistics are not people/emotions.
true love? you wanna know what true love is?? true love is being able to love someone who doesnt love themselves because your love is bigger than there lack of it.
It is the idea that one can only be loved with self love that puts people down in black couldrens to the waste
I do not contest your opinions about love, Painman. Love it’s self is a subjective word, and can be interpreted in many different ways.
I read what you said as, you love someone SO much that you are making up for what they lack in self love. Amen.
well if you read that that way fine, have your interpretation., but in my reality which I just happen to think is quite true. some people, like it or not, and theres alot of them just are not good enough in the heart to be able to love someone in a painful place. ALOT of women (especially where I come from) are glory hunters and wealth seekers where the only wealth they know is called free from pain. this is why women are KNOWN as being generally shallow bitches. because they dont generally feel much pain they dont have empathy at all. sorry if your not one. im just saying there are many.
I guess the thing that shallow bitches have above us is the fact we see beauty on the outside, fuck me arent they the lucky ones!
I’ve met woman who you have described above. It is true. But not for everyone! It’s hard to remember that sometimes for me.
makes sense. my reason’s name is michael though
Dude… I find beauty in men who aren’t perfect on the outside. Usually, the ones who look super ‘fine’ on the outside have a shit load of flaws that I really really hate. The ones who are ‘ugly’ are either really cool or they are so fucking awkward and do a lot of nasty/un-natural things that I am not interested whatsoever in them. I like the in between. I’m a compromise kind of girl. If I can’t do shit to make money, I may use a guy to find a way to make money. No sex, of course, but to use as a connection. If a guy just happens to actually fall for me and I don’t love him back like that, then I’m going to let him down easy. I’m going to say ‘haha fuck you I don’t love you’. I’ll tell him that I don’t feel that way for him. I know it sounds like bullshit, but it’s the fucking truth.
BTW about the whole men take quicker methods than women, it’s usually because of how the mind works. Men want to get it done and don’t normally give a shit. Women tend to float in their own bullshit and torture themselves.
Like Louie CK says.
Boys fuck shit up. Girls are fucked up.
Take that, analyze it however you want, and you’ll get it.
Aha I forget one word in that post and it made me sound like a *****.
Haha fuck.
*I’m NOT going to say ‘haha fuck you I don’t love you’.
^
I thought that was a little harsh
I do wanna end this thread with this. True love isnt about your love for what the other person has, Its about the love you have in your heart. good lovers can love little, people with not much. if true love wasnt this way. then every poor person who ever lived would be fucked. anyone can love a stunner and anyone can love richness. that isnt true love. its based on selfishness, and while selfish is common, its isnt actually a very true thing. beauty is in the eye of the beholder and good holders see beauty often. they see beauty in the body (its not a bad thing its a good) they see beauty in peoples faces (wether smiling or not) they see beauty in the tree’s and in the mud. They see beauty in down places as well as up. otherwise its just down for the down and up for the up. that is generally the world. its really quite sad but thats how fucked the world is.
I didnt see that big message from fiantis, I oppogise to anyone Ive offended, that wasnt the intention. I just find that on the large men lose value for the exact thing that women dont like being valued for by men . I too would like to be loved for my dreams and for my thougts ect, But alot of what I say comes from gen erally in the 1st instance being deemed rather worthless by women, its like being a ghost! me I see the beauty of a face and a smile or the beauty of someon e crying or feeling rough and give them time. but women just walk past no matter what really, occasionaly its different but on the large thats the way it is. I am struggling against suicide for the very reason you say, disconnection froim the world and un able to get a relationship, women on dating sites mainly even with a cracking profile just ignore you and dont even talk. this maybe led me to believe that alot of people just havent got anything to give, maybe the ones who do stay away from dating sites, it seems the ones on there are on there because they cant find anyone ‘worth it’ in real life, well, its the same online too! Im not looking for a supermodel I guess im just looking for a chance because so many women didn t give me one especially when i was even more fucked up than I am now. I know some guys nice guys who are worthwhile friends, they couldnt get a woman if there life depended on it! women have a kind of value that they have for themselves and its a value that de values us. while you think men might devalue you if they want you sexually for your body its a whole lot better than being treated like you dont exist. IMO the bodys a beautiful thing and if someone wants you for it, enjoy it. usually guys think your smiles nice too. I mean its a start isnt it, someone see’s you likes the way you look, like your face etc .. its a start.