I Feel So Sad and Hurt

eh hem: “you’re bound to encounter someone who wouldN’T* just let it go…”

Sometimes it’s nice to “believe” there is something more than this… but that’s usually because “this” seems to be severely lacking, and isn’t enough.

I bet if i could live forever, i could fix all my problems, even most of the world’s problems, minimize the requirements and instances of suffering in this world, and then do everything i want to do.

I honestly wouldn’t mind remaining “me,” retaining this particular manifestation of consciousness, “forever.”

But since that’s not even possible, and there is an absurdly short, limited amount of time, and an absurdly high and inevitable amount of suffering, and so many of us can do so little of what we feel actually matters…

We end up thinking “life sucks, and then you die.” It’s like we’re just helpless, meaningless, irrelevant, and while many of us strive to learn and understand all we can about ourselves and this world… in the end, it goes away, and what have we done? Have we completed goals and had wonderful times? Have we made the world a better place for others? Have we done anything that won’t just be dismantled, disintegrated, swept under the rug and ignored? Will anyone 100 years from now still benefit from anything i did with my life? Does it matter? Is it worth what i must endure, to create such a seemingly insignificant, miniscule “beneficial” impact, for people i’ll never know? And even if i can do something worth doing for the future population… will they appreciate it? Will they even care? Will they even know? Or is all of this just a wasted, involuntary, arbitrary requirement of suffering decades of inevitable discomfort and displeasure, just because other people can’t understand and would be “devastated” just because i figured i was done, and wanted to go?

What about all the people who crossed me, and significantly contributed to my misery? What about all the mercy i showed? If “mercy” only occurs due to my inability to exact revenge, then does that mercy still count? Is it worth anything, to anyone, for me to go on? Are those few who find me worthwhile, worth anything to anyone else? Does anything even matter? I don’t think anything really matters… except that suffering sucks, and is a dreadful way to waste the precious and unexpected chance to live a life.

But what can i do about it? How do i “do something about it,” which will actually cause a massive decrease in suffering, and increase enjoyment and fulfillment? Doesn’t “doing something about it,” also require lots of suffering, just to dedicate oneself to the requirement to eliminate suffering and increase enjoyment?

Isn’t most of the world “asleep” and unaware of all these issues, and even unwilling to consider these things?

On and on.

I find it much more “reasonable” and self-economical, to simply keep trying to enjoy whatever i can, and destroy anything that tries to harm me, when i encounter it… all without needing to believe in any fantastical ideals, or idealistic fantasies.

We have “life” right now. That’s when, and what, we should focus on. It seems wasteful to spend time, energy, life, focusing on intangible things that aren’t evidenced by observable reality.

Observe reality. Learn to see it as accurately as possible, so you can most quickly and efficiently maximize the experiences you want to encounter in life… while you’re alive to do so.

In a sense: Life itself is “the problem.” You can either give up and abandon it, or spend your available time trying to “hack it,” exploring its inner workings, and trying to make something good out of it.

What if everyone who ever gave up, had stayed and found ways to solve their problems? I wonder how different our world, today, would be.

“Karma let’s me rest easy at night, knowing that all of the people I treated badly had it coming.
J/k.”

lol… nice.

Well… you lost me at “no scientific backing for theory of evolution.” That’s patently false. It is literally the /only/ theory with /any/ “scientific backing.”

There is /absolutely doubt/ about whether we are “spirits contained in human bodies.” Look around. The doubt certainly does exist. Though lots of people would have us believe that it doesn’t, and that we should believe in spiritual things.

Also, no, most people are not “raised to believe that anything spiritual is loony and far out.”

Do you have any idea how rampant and established theism actually is? Anyone who believes in any type of “God” or “afterlife,” is not someone who was taught that those things are absurd. The only people who ever believe those ideas, are those who are taught not to question them.

However, i must also note that there is an obvious false dichotomy between “naturalism” and “spiritualism” in your words. Those things are not mutually exclusive. They are not naturally opposed. If “the spiritual” does indeed exist, then it is also “natural.” They are not in contest, though the spiritualists may have you believe they are. The universe and everything that has occurred, including humanity’s creation of “new” elements, is “natural.” Beings arose from combining and evolving of materials, and those beings went on to combine other materials to create “new” materials. This is a natural occurrence, despite the fact that we have created things that do not happen without our intervention, and did not exist prior.

Everything, literally, is “cause and effect.” Everything “happens for a reason,” but often there is only the most rudimentary “reason” in the form of a cause we may or may not understand, which may have been an effect of another cause, which may have been an effect of another cause, etc.

Sometimes, the only “reason” for certain caused effects, is “because nature.” Other times (frequently) those causes are people’s choices, and all conscious action is based on, and motivated by, belief.

What you believe, affects what you do, and what you do affects your world. We all share this world. Therefore, belief affects the world.

Those who manage to amass enough resources to isolate themselves, or at least build barriers between themselves and those unwanted effects, are, by definition, “less affected” by the beliefs of others. Those who cannot isolate themselves or create effective barriers, are indeed “affected,” and live at the mercy of belief-based actions.

When the world is made by actions that are based on unjustified, unsupported, unrealistic beliefs, which have no observable evidence in the clearest perception of reality… then we have “things happening for no apparent reason,” other than the reason that “people believe things that don’t match reality.”

If i am imposed upon by effects created because of things that are not true… how does that make me feel? How does that make everyone else feel?

Shouldn’t we ONLY do things based on what can be known to be reasonably, justifiably “believed” to be actually true?

You can say that “whatever anyone believes is fine,” but i disagree. I only find “reasonably justified” beliefs to be acceptable. Everything else carries an unacceptably high risk of detriment.

I don’t have to “allow” someone to do something, in order for them to do it anyway. The reason people believe things that have no evidence, is because they do not understand the process of evaluation that leads to a valid conclusion (critical thinking). Some are incapable, while others are intentionally mislead, where some school (read: “indoctrination”) systems intentionally avoid teaching critical thinking. Why? Well, because they don’t want kids questioning what they’re taught. They want more followers who believe a certain way, so that their actions can be manipulated.

To say that the scientific theory of evolution is “ridiculous” is quite the stretch. It’s simply incomplete, and there are /parts/ that darwin may have been wrong about, and since he developed a theory that he “ended up thinking was impossible,” then how do we know /where/ he was wrong? How do we know which thing he was wrong about? There is /loads/ of scientific evidence to reasonably, justifiably suggest, that evolution does in fact occur. Just because we don’t completely understand 100% of everything that ever happened (because that’s scientifically impossible!), the “creationists” and “spiritualists” jump onto that as though it means the entire thing is just false. But it’s not false, and to suggest that it is, is utterly unreasonable.

In my “opinion” it is unacceptable for others to act in way that affect me, based on belief in something that is not proven true.

If it affects me, it damn well better be based on the truth, and not just some unsubstantiated claim.

Imagine if cops showed up at your door, assaulted your family, shot your dogs, arrested you, and informed you that you would be put to death, because “they believe” that you’ve done something wrong, which you are completely certain you have not. Would you just accept it, or demand to see their so-called evidence? What if their only evidence was “because God spoke to me,” or “because i, alone, had an ineffable experience that cannot be adequately conveyed to anyone else.”

What if, instead of acknowledging their lack of evidence, they simply replied “prove you didn’t!”

Basing important actions on unsubstantiated claims, refusing to produce valid evidence, demanding instead to be proven wrong… is that justice? Is that “the right way” to do things?

If someone claims something exists, but never produces evidence… is it right for anyone to act on the basis that such claims are “true,” despite total lack of evidence?

Is it right for “most people” to go around acting in accordance with false beliefs?

I’m not saying “darwin’s theory is perfect.” I don’t think anyone ever says that anymore. But it’s very obvious to anyone who actually investigates the connections, that “evolution” is true. We just don’t know “everything” about it yet, and we probably never will. It’s still the best explanation for how everything got here… mostly because it is the thing that has verifiable evidence supporting it, as the basis of its validity.

If someone wants to bring new and better evidence to the table, well that would be great! Unfortunately, no such evidence exists, despite the majority who seem to believe otherwise, but cannot produce any.

I can’t stop anyone from believing incorrectly, unless i have an answer they want to understand, that they haven’t seen elsewhere. The only “acceptance” i have for false beliefs, is because I can’t stop someone from being as wrong as they want to be. I can only draw the line between me and them, and say “do not cross this line, or else.”

The only “one thing” i would have everyone “believe,” is that we should only act based on evidenced things, and not fantasies that are only supported by ‘feelings’ and what most likely amounts to hallucinations about “spirits” or “gods.”

In response to the “semantics” thing… sometimes semantics are necessary. Semantics are unnecessarily demonized, quite frequently, as if to say it’s wrong to agree on the definitions of words, so that ideas can be sufficiently conveyed. If you want to say “semantics” are wrong, then i can just as easily say that communication itself is a waste of time, because it is impossible for anyone else to have the same idea my words describe, delivered into their mind. “just arguing semantics” is not the case. In fact, the case is that i am arguing against false beliefs, and against accepting the impacts that actions motivated by false beliefs, tend to have upon the world, and all its inhabitants.

It’s not an argument, even. It’s just one of my sensitive topics, and i always have a lot to say about it. Sometime, i just don’t bother, for what should be obvious reasons. 😉