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I think I should become christian.I don’t want to go to h*ll,and if I’m atheist then I’d run the risk of going to h*ll if God does exist.When I was christian I was happy but I lost my faith and started feeling alone again.So I think I should at least try to be christian before I think about killing myself.What do you think I should do?


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AtTheEnd 8/29/2013 - 6:15 pm

Hurm well. Converting for the sake of saving your own ass sounds shallow….sorry for sounding like an ass wipe. In all honesty many religious people have told me that not believing will result in eternal damnation….but they also tell me that when you die. When you reach the judgement stage god will look into your heart and he will know what lies in your heart, because he made you and he knew what you would and could become from the beginning. Whether you served faithfully or just didnt believe truly and attend church he will know the truth that lie sin your heart. Haha but that’s what they tell me c: That makes me laugh cuz it means when created horrible monsters that roam the earth and happen to be human, he knew what they would do. What a fucked up being he is XD

If you really do feel that Christianity is the way for you, go for it. Just don’t follow the religious masses who follow it only for salvation. Here’s a favorite quote of mine from a movie that i always repeat on this site LOL

“A king may move a man. A father may claim a son. That man can also move himself. And only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember, how so ever you are played… or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone… even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power. When you stand before God, you cannot say, ‘But I was told by others to do thus’… or that virtue was not convient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that.”

Duke of Marmalade 8/29/2013 - 6:19 pm

You should consider becoming rastafari

Persephone 8/29/2013 - 6:24 pm

You seriously want to ask people on this site? Lol. You’re better off deleting this post and reading all the religion debates. Check out the most recent one by RealTalk30, ‘Dear God…’

We really do not need another religion debate. No. Please. No.

AtTheEnd 8/29/2013 - 6:24 pm

@Persophone i thought my comment was decent and not one initiating debate :L

lorax 8/29/2013 - 6:26 pm

I think you should try to be the kind of person you think a god or god[s] or god[dess[es]] would be pleased by, and not worry about whether any of them exist or don’t exist. If you do that, I figure any deity that may or may not exist would be stupid not to give you a cookie when you die. Or not. Whatever. But if there is a god and he does care that you didn’t go to church every sunday and give 10% of what you earn to the pastor of that church, and you didn’t call yourself a [insert religious title here], and you didn’t get offended whenever someone said something bad about your religion, then that deity is a dumbass and I want nothing to do with him for being so facile. I dunno why anyone would feel differently.

Stendarr's ***** 8/29/2013 - 6:30 pm

Christianity is so overrated and nun uniforms aren’t exactly figure-flattering, you should go the Scientology route

noonoo12 8/29/2013 - 6:31 pm

Yeah, but nuns are cool as fuck. Riding the bus in trainers and shit.

Duke of Marmalade 8/29/2013 - 6:33 pm

Religion Wars – Part 2 – Stendarr’s ***** Strikes Back

Persephone 8/29/2013 - 6:35 pm

@AttheEnd I didn’t mean you; people will take any excuse to make a debate out of this. I mean, it’s okay if they all actually care about things like this, but I don’t. I suppose I should be more tolerant, then. Ah well, whatever.

@Stendarr LOL.

lorax 8/29/2013 - 6:38 pm

Why does nobody ever recommend joining the Happy Science Religion? The name alone should be enough to sell it.

clevername 8/29/2013 - 6:41 pm

Is it possible to “become Christian,” if one does it expressly out of fear of Hell? Or does valid Christianity require understanding and accepting of the doctrines and Faith?

What if you knew, 100% certain, that you would definitely go to Hell, even if you did everything exactly as the bible says you should? Would you still want to be Christian?

Does Christianity still count as valid, if you’re only “accepting it” to fit in with a particular group of people who base their acceptance of you upon whether you agree to behave as though you agree with their doctrines?

Perhaps you should focus on becoming /yourself/.

Duke of Marmalade 8/29/2013 - 6:43 pm

Religion Wars – Episode 3 – The Return of Lorax

God v Suicidal people is an intriguing contest. My heart says suicidal’s but my money’s on religion. It’ll be a close contest, they’ll won’t go down without a fight but religion might prove too much.

2/7 Religion
3/1 Suicide Project

That’s how I price it up anyway.

amyasks 8/29/2013 - 6:45 pm

I think that you should believe in God because you want to, not because you are frightened of the consequences of not believing in him. I think that God is loving and forgiving, and he will not punish you for the decision you makes. I think you first need to learn to forgive yourself.

clevername 8/29/2013 - 6:46 pm

Is this a good time to mention the making of the new disney-originated star wars episodes, 7, 8, and 9?


Persephone 8/29/2013 - 6:47 pm

Clevername makes a good point. As for me, I don’t care about any of this because even if there was a god, it wouldn’t change the way I live. I would never feel the need to worship any greater being. I didn’t ask to be born, after all, so why should I express my ‘happiness’ at being created? That would be inauthentic.

Anyway, if there is a god and all that, you just need to be the best person you can be. Going to church won’t change anything for you. If you want to feel spiritual, go out into nature. A slice of quiet solitude will bring you much more peace than church or empty ‘prayers’ ever will.

ahannah123 8/29/2013 - 6:49 pm

@clevername if no matter how good I was I would end up going to hell then I probably wouldn’t want to be christian.So basically If hell didn’t exist there wouldn’t be any point of being christian.

lorax 8/29/2013 - 6:50 pm

What if Heaven or Hell were actually Earth, and the only thing that matters is which you choose to try and make it?

Persephone 8/29/2013 - 6:53 pm

The idea of hell was only created as a means to control people. Religions make money you know. If they could convince people to go to their churches out of fear of ‘hell,’ they could keep rolling in cash. Look at the Vatican. With all of the original works of art and all that, it must be worth billions.

Duke of Marmalade 8/29/2013 - 6:54 pm

Look at the sky man god is all around us. He’s swirling around in my glass.

Persephone 8/29/2013 - 6:55 pm

See? Duke gets it.

Duke of Marmalade 8/29/2013 - 6:56 pm

1/4 Religion
7/2 Suicide Project

EvilAlterEgo 8/29/2013 - 7:07 pm

God is dead

Man plays dead

Man is religious by fault

Pretending to know of a God

clevername 8/29/2013 - 7:12 pm

“So basically If hell didn’t exist there wouldn’t be any point of being christian.”

Okay. So: does Hell exist?

RealTalk30 8/29/2013 - 7:14 pm

Yes!! 😀 welcome to earth!!

iamerror73 8/29/2013 - 8:58 pm

If you’re Christian and you kill yourself you go to hell lol

imonlyaman 8/29/2013 - 9:17 pm

ok well the state im in these days disqualifies me from engaging in any spiritual debate. I couldn’t give a fuck what anybody else thinks. nothing personal I just don’t give a shit about anything.

this is something you need to decide for yourself. last thing you want to do is ask hopeless people their opinion on if there is a benevolent force outside and beyond our pale existence. you’d be hard pressed to find any suggestion of eternal value here. having said that, a decision so intrinsic, personal and important as searching out spirituality is something that must come from within. if you take anything from what i say it is–look inside and listen to your inner voice. what does your spirit say? follow that leading.

I for one know there is such thing as angels and demons and am adamant about a spirit realm. for myself that’s a non issue and absolutely not up for debate. that’s my own experience and I’ve experienced a lot of shit. you have your own experience. we are all very different and again you need to come to your own conclusion regardless of what I say or anybody else says here. wish you the best.

rach 8/30/2013 - 1:39 am

before you become a Christian you should spend some time reading the bible for yourself. its an incredibly violent book with many acts of violence done towards innocent folks and animals. my feeling with Christianity is, take the good and leave the bad.

Hella 8/30/2013 - 5:58 am

Christians think that people who commit suicide rot in hell for eternity.
I rather remain atheist…

PainNlife 8/30/2013 - 1:18 pm

I think you should gather information about it and decide for yourself…don’t do it just because others tell you its the “right way” ….gain your own perspective …gather credible information and come to your own conclusions. If you decide to become one….great….If you decide to not become one…great…..its a personal decision…..One thing I hate about the christian religion is the “if you don’t do this or you do this you go to hell” thing …I think that is just a way to control and manipulate people….but still I think you need to think for yourself and only take those thoughts into consideration….forget anybody else opinion ….the only one that matters is yours because its your life

lorax 8/30/2013 - 1:24 pm

Read through the bible and see how many references you can find to Hell. Then switch to a different translation of the Bible and see if those references say the same thing. They probably won’t, because in the original language, whatever the translators thought meant, “Hell,” meant something else to the people the authors were speaking to.

PainNlife 8/30/2013 - 1:43 pm

well whoever translated it distorted it for a very obvious reason….control….I dislike how the bible uses fear rather than love to get people to follow Christianity….but I can understand as people are much more likely to do what you want out of fear rather than love…..The bible basically says…. “worship god…love him… get baptized to show you love him…. believe in him…. have faith…..or burn in hell forever”….what would you choose?….I hate that life was thrust upon us with the risk that (if real) we can end up in hell burning for eternity….I mean damn even hitler doesn’t deserve to burn in hell for all fucking eternity…he deserves a fierce and just punishment but all fucking eternity? …..do people even know what “eternity means?”….

Roak 8/30/2013 - 1:46 pm

Eternity? Mixed up bonsai wants to live forever. (8)

s-f-m 8/30/2013 - 2:50 pm

Does the bible really state that, “we can end up in hell *burning for all eternity*” ?

lorax 8/30/2013 - 2:54 pm

@sfm: no, it says we could end up “burning for an aion (greek word for it)” make of that what you will.

s-f-m 8/30/2013 - 3:08 pm

@lorax: aion(ios) ? — 1000-year ‘period’ – age(-lasting) … A bit more to it…
No, it’s okay.

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