I’m a 15 year old Sophomore in highschool.
I don’t believe in God, so I don’t believe in heaven or hell. I think the only reason people “love” God is because they don’t want to risk going to hell IF God is real. Humans act on self interest, right?
Back to suicide, I plan on commiting suicide after I graduate high school. I’m not depressed at all, and there is no underlying depression, but I just think life is pointless. You work hard in highschool so you can go to college and work hard so you can get a job, and then you work hard for the rest of your life just to survive, and then you die. All that work just to end up DEAD. I think I’d enjoy oblivion more than 60 years of struggle. I guess I’ll enjoy my youth before I have real responsibilities.
Is this logical? Plausible?
Please don’t reply with the cliché suicide prevention stuff like “No don’t do it! Life gets better! The world will be losing someone so unique! Life is what you make it!”
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Dude, your only thinking of the “working hard” part, which is only 1/3 of the day 5 days out of the week. It’s what you do with the hard earned money and your time off. Like finding a wife, getting laid, buying a nice car, travelling the world, experiences! That’s the point your not understanding. And sometimes if your smart, it’s not about working harder, it’s about working smarter. And when you do go to college pick a profession you’d enjoy.
So what if people believe that God will punish them if they committed suicide, makes them think twice about it. When we die we do go somewhere, we will answer to something. You think this complex sophisticated world doesn’t have a creator or afterlife? Well think again kid.
When you say that you think life is pointless, what do you mean? A point is what… a goal? A purpose? An answer?
I can tell that you are an independent thinker because of the questions you’re asking, and your unwillingness to settle for easy answers. I was asking some similar questions at your age, though possibly with more fear and anxiety. People offered me answers, advice, goals… tried to give me a sense of purpose. None of their answers satisfied me, and most of them frustrated me.
One woman I called on for advice told me I was young, and needed to experience more of the world. My father told me that these were questions that everyone has, and that no one could answer for me. Another person my own age told me he had many of the same thoughts and questions, only instead of bothering him they were fascinating and even exciting. At the time that all of these conversations took place, I didn’t find them helpful.
But years later I started to see the value in what they told me. As the woman said, I had needed to experience more of the world, because I was only a teenager, and had experienced just a fraction of a fraction of what life had to offer. As my dad had told me, these questions and dilemmas were the same that every thinking person has, and yet continue to live with them, searching for the answers. And my conversation with the young man who found these problems thrilling later made me realize that I could also shift my perspective on these things.
For me, the difference between a sense of futility and a sense of purpose was just a little more experience. The way your unconscious mind can solve a problem for you while you sleep, these things that you experience every day might only begin to make sense after you’ve had a few years to dwell on them. The way human science and medicine and technology continue to advance at an ever-quickening pace, your personal experience will build on itself and your understanding of the world will grow exponentially.
You don’t have to follow that boring, linear path of high school, college, work, death. Shit, you don’t have to go to college if you don’t want to. You don’t have to give your life to a career that makes being fertilizer look fun. Before you decide that non-existence is preferable to the “struggle” of life, consider that it doesn’t have to be a struggle at all. The world is vast, and there is SOMETHING in it that you can be passionate about. Just find something you love, that excites you… do what you want to do, how you want to do it.
You ask if it’s logical to end your life after high school. So I ask you to consider that your life will end someday, inevitably and irreversibly, naturally or not. That option, so to speak, will always be on the table. Isn’t it more logical to experience that life first, and appraise its value firsthand? You’ll never know how good it could be unless you do.
I hope you don’t find my response cliché, although as they say, “A cliché is a cliché for a reason.”
I believe one of the rules on here is “No hate.” If the first advice you can think to offer is “you are an idiot,” then maybe you should think twice about offering advice.
I think you’re right because if there was no God there was no real reasons to continuing our life and we are not brave enough to kill ourselves so it is easier for us to believe that there is a God and a paradise and a reason for life which maybe we can not understand :/
What does it matter at all, if this life is so pointless, why even bother writing this, or waiting to finish high school? Kiddo, it isn’t logical. It isn’t even valid reasoning. Do you only plan on doing this to run away from your future responsibilities?
And how do you even know life is pointless? Experienced it all in your fifteen years, have you?
Questions are good. Even this question about the point of life. But if you care enough, then search for the answer before going to the conclusion that life is just too difficult to be bothered with. There is a point to each individual life, its just a matter of finding it.
Just don’t be a fool and throw away a life you don’t even know the outcome of. After all, with you not believing in any religion or any of that jazz, seems we only each have one life. Make the most of it.
I can relate to this. I understand you. Its your choice in the end. Just dont regret it! Good luck.
I don’t have anything insightful to say. I’m a bit younger than you. Look, I’m a hypocrite if I say that you’re absolutely wrong. I’ve considered suicide myself. Ya know. Why deal with life’s screwballs just to end up in a coffin.
But, hey. We’re only teens. We don’t know everything about ourselves, or the checkered world around us. You can’t know for certain that suicide is a better option than living out for a while. Who knows? In ten years you might have a good life. A relatively happy life. See, the thing is – you don’t know.
I’m not refuting any religious beliefs. If you don’t believe in any deity, that’s understandable. But then again, we’re only teens. I don’t know what I’ll believe in ten years. I have no freaking clue. I don’t identify with anything at the moment.
Look, my point is – you’re still young. Pretty young. You seem intelligent, if a tad cynical. Now, I’m going to shove a sickeningly sweet cliche down your throat. Sorry. I can’t resist, muahahaha. Nah, just kidding. Hope you figure life out. Whatever works best for you.
Things only have the value you decide to give them. Material possessions, social relationships, your own life, are only as valuable as you feel they are, and that’s why only you can answer your own question.
Is life pointless? worthless? i’d say it is if you look at it that way, since everything will end someday (life in general). But that doesn’t mean you couldn’t give it a go, or find a reason for yourself if you really want to, i agree with melancholicpony on that one, you don’t have to struggle following a linear, normal life if you don’t want to (unless you really care about the opinion of “regular” people). Ending your life is an option that will always be there, so maybe you could try giving it a sense first. Age does change perception, so you might find something that is worth the effort eventually.
I agree with the poster. Life is pointless. I’m 10 years out of high school. I’m a young woman with a so called real job and massive student loan debt. Honestly college has burned me out and all of this has been a struggle and waste of time. I almost feel like a fool for putting myself through these past 10 years. I will eventually commit suicide. I cannot see myself grow old working hard doing this for the next 50 years. I’m not that foolish. I get as many highs as I can and im kind to others just to make this journey a tad bit easier but when I’m ready I’m ready.I also will not have children as I believe its cruel and selfish to inflict this life on anyone. Its insane to involuntarily have someone live through their mortality. I honestly think people are insane and like to suffer and unwilling bring others to suffer with them. I have already picked my suicide method of choice. My godfather committed suicide and I plan on following in his footsteps when I’m ready. We are all going to die anyways, why put yourself through all this pointless effort, lifes inevitable traumas, sufferings, disappointments/losses,illnesses, worries, aging to die in the end. I hate to say it but it won’t get better- kid, if anything it will get worse especially when you see your parents getting older, adult life with huge responbilites, and seeing all the lies they sell you when your younger are just that a big lie. I’m not going to lie to you like the majority of people will. I always pride in telling the truth. I’m also not depressed just depressed with the harsh realities of this pointless life.