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sportsnut 3/6/2016 - 1:11 pm

it’s a good day to lay in bed.. that’s what I’m doing… playing on my phone and basketball game later.. all from the comforts of the bed..haha

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 1:31 pm

That sounds fun. Hope the game goes well.

I want to go outside but I don’t really have any clothes to wear. Also, I kind of just want to continue laying here, mentally hanging myself.

sportsnut 3/6/2016 - 2:16 pm

thank you .. me too .hehe

BL98 3/6/2016 - 1:12 pm

it isn’t pathetic , it’s healthy for the heart … hope it gets better

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 1:28 pm

I want to save everyone but I can’t even take my own advice. I’m a hypocrite.

Hazy Day Sunflower 3/6/2016 - 1:19 pm

I’m betting I’d go to church more if communion was a tequila shot. I imagine if Jesus was borne in Mexico instead of the middles east we’d have a bit more fun at communion right? Tequila and tortillas. Now that is a heavenly host.

God understands a day off Whiskered, He really does, at least our God does. Those baptists…not so sure I mean they don’t dance and believe that abstinence is the way to stop unwed pregnancies.

DID I JUST SAY THAT?

My apologies to any baptists or abstinence only education believers out there this morning, although I’m thinking that neither are our there this morning. Either way, God love you (both Whiskered and you baptists and idiot abstinence only believers).

Oh I really need to get off this forum before I say something truly regrettable.

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 1:39 pm

That sounds like a pretty interesting alternate universe. Then again, if Jesus had been born in Mexico instead of in Bethlehem, most Americans would be pagans. You know, racism and all that.

I know God is understanding, but there’s a difference between a day off and not showing up for months on end.

Anyway, I got a laugh out of the Baptist thing. Fun fact: I used to be Baptist. They’re not as bad as everyone makes them out to be, or at least the ones I interacted with. That being said, however, I’m glad I left. Not a nice path for me.

Cordless 3/6/2016 - 1:55 pm

LOL.
Hazy, you crack me up.

I’m not much for tequila (which just means there’s more left for the rest of you).
But it would be awesome if the tradition was to have a big bowl of nachos at Sunday services.
Those who wanted hot salsa could sit on one side of the room, and the wimps (er, I mean, the mild sauce people) could sit on the other side.

If there’s a section for way-beyond-hot, that’s where I’ll be.
(Unless that’s where hell is).

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 2:47 pm

In Anatomy, I learned that there is no such thing as the flavor “spicy” or “hot.” It isn’t a flavor at all.
What we call “spicy” is simply our mouth registering pain. That’s right. People who enjoy spicy foods are masochists. Blew my mind.

Cordless 3/6/2016 - 3:22 pm

In that case, pain is delicious.

rocketman 3/6/2016 - 2:02 pm

whiskered-fish, They’d throw me out of a church! They’d grab the back of my hair and the seat of my pant’s and rail me out the door!!!!! i could just hear them now AND DON’T YOU EVER! COME BACK! YOU ROCKET GUY!!!! And everyone would clap!!! 🙂

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 2:33 pm

Haha. That’s a funny picture. “Sir, you put the money INTO the collection plate, you don’t take it out!”

rocketman 3/6/2016 - 2:55 pm

whiskered-fish,

If i wasn’t an honest guy I could pull that shit off, and pass the plate!! one of the songs I do has that part in it and i’m pretty good at it!! “Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show”

Brothers (halle-hallelujah), I said Brothers (hallelujah)
Now you got yourself two good hands (halle-hallelujah)
And when your brother is troubled
You got to reach out your one hand for him (hallelujah)
‘Cause that’s what it’s there for (halle, hallelujah)
And when your heart is troubled
You got to reach out your other hand (hallelujah)
Reach it out to the man up there
‘Cause that’s what he’s there for (halle-hallelujah)

Take my hand in yours, walk with me this day
In my heart I know, I will never stray
Halle-halle-halle-halle-halle-halle-halle-halle

Shit i want to reach in my own pocket when i do that one!!! HA HA!

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 4:36 pm

Those are awesome lyrics. I like it.

left22 3/6/2016 - 2:34 pm

I get it. I used to feel that way. For me going to church was often a matter of discipline, something to do, a place I wanted to belong be a part of. But the reality was that as a single person I didn’t belong and that I no longer connected to the teachings that were to literal, that depended on the Word being the words spoken . (the word tree is not a tree but in theology that distinction is to often forgotten)

I get it my may of expropriating God, love, words may not be the same as though teaching…
I’m just so tired…
I don’t understand… what I think or feel doesn’t matter
sorry

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 2:36 pm

Don’t be sorry. Your thoughts and feelings matter to me.

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 2:34 pm

I don’t feel like a person today. I feel like a will-less, mind-less Carbon-based automaton.

Moneypenny 3/6/2016 - 2:58 pm

Well this may be new to you but that is what a human is made of
🙂

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 3:02 pm

🙂 I know. I’m just saying that I’m blank-headed today.

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 2:43 pm

I have about sixteen hours until I have to wake up tomorrow and go back to my everyday routine.

Somehow, that is both not enough time and way too much time.

I have work to do for two of my four classes but I know I won’t do it. Like always.

Moneypenny 3/6/2016 - 3:21 pm

Hey Whisky,
Nothing else matter when they don’t have a meaning. There’s nothing wrong about not going to church. Just realize it doesn’t have the same meaning today as I could had before. Don’t feel bad about it, that’s part of life. Allow yourself to be ok not attaching yourself to religion just out of custom or out of fear. Stop, walk away from rites and impositions that lack meaning, and find your own path through life. Just don’t betray yourself, learn to comprehend your spirituality. That’s a complicated path, but there is no evil in you jus because you don’t want to go to church. ok?
Lay at your back and rest, it’s ok to be tired. We all deal with a lot of things all the time, so recognize you deserve to do nothing as much as you need to do nothing.
Body is not lazy just because.

Hugs

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 5:28 pm

Thanks Moneypenny. But they do have a meaning to me. I don’t go to church, or pray, or do any religious activity out of compulsion. I’m not religious because of how I was raised, because my grandparents were never religious, nor were my parents. I did not come to the faith out of fear of death, either, but out of genuine belief.
And I know I’m not evil for skipping church. It’s more than that. I’m evil for a million reasons already.

But I know what you mean by your advice, and I’m thankful.

Hugs

Mf 3/6/2016 - 5:45 pm

Church is just an institution, a building created to gather people and take donations. I’ve always wondered why people needs to go to church, considering that it’s no different than praying at home, at a park, at a sauna, or even at a stripper club (extreme example, i know). If god is all mighty and is all around us, he’s bound to listen to us regardless on where we are.

You could go back to those times where there were few churches. So, you could go to church on sunday, but the church is 5 days away from were you are. What would people do in that case, live in church? have a small portable church playing set? idk, but to me it’s your genuine belief what matters.

As for being evil… heck, we’re all potentially evil, and good, and those are subjective depending on how you see them. Something evil could be good to someone, and viceversa. So… yup, don’t be so hard on yourself, a good chunk of the people that go to church every sunday do so in order to feel free of sins so they can go and continue harming others all week long, and that’s actually evil (at least to me).

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 6:02 pm

It’s about fellowship. That’s the difference. That’s why we have church.

About that second paragraph: Yes, but I have no excuse. I don’t have a five days walk between me and my church.

Also, I do not believe in subjective good or evil. I believe that actions are never definitively evil or good without a certain intent behind them, sure. For example, accidentally running over someone with your car and killing them is not evil, but purposefully doing so is. Both actions result in a death but only one of them is evil. So context matters. Nonetheless, I believe in an objective moral standard. Like I’ve said, I don’t think I’m evil for skipping church. It’s so much more than that.

Right now I’m just empty inside. And want to stop existing.

sportsnut 3/6/2016 - 6:08 pm

very well put, my friend

Mf 3/6/2016 - 6:16 pm

That makes sense, because i’ve never been much of a fellowship guy, so i’ve never been able to grasp my head around that concept. In a way i sort of forgot that i should stay away from every single post regarding religion, because i shouldn’t be commenting on that all things considered, lol.

I do think that you could go to church at any given time tho. If you can’t make it to sunday morning church regarding your reasons (or lack of them), why not just go and pray for a while? don’t they keep them open in the afternoon or something? they do around here.

As for good and evil subjectivity… yeah, i’ll just keep my shut.

+1, at least on the emptiness. No idea how not existing feels like, so i’m 50/50 on that one.

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 6:39 pm

Well, in light of that information, I’m all the more grateful that you tried to comfort me anyway.

As for nonexistence…I’m not sure either. But I know that it isn’t death, which contains in it a woeful afterlife, and I know that it isn’t life, which I’ve already grown to hate. I want to know that kind of unthink, unfeeling, unborn peace.

whiskered-fish 3/6/2016 - 6:39 pm

And thank you, sportsnut.

sportsnut 3/6/2016 - 6:41 pm

you are most welcome

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