When I was new to this site, I post an angry post called I support MGTOW. I am passive aggressive about the group, but maybe guys are starting to be shoved into the background and are being denied their feelings because they realize that their feelings don’t matter, they drop from society. MGTOW may not be a hate group for women, but I maybe I can’t blame the ones for their resentment. Maybe they did have a bad female influence in their life, and because they’re men no one trusts them, so they find this support group that helps them heal, find others just like them, victimized in a feminist society.
I’m sorry, please believe me. I want nothing from you guys, in fact I don’t know you personally. Maybe some MGTOWs are victims and maybe some are abusive jerks, I don’t know, but I do know is that you guys do have the right to not want a female partner. You the right to be happy, and if being off this “plantation” does, then run away as far as possible. I all ask is you guys don’t snoop to the feminist’s level because you guys are better than this. May you men find peace. Ahem.
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Some guy told me he was with MGTOW while telling me about his many recent exes and then he asked me on a date.
Men versus women = always complete nonsense. People’s roles in life may differ, but we share the same spark of consciousness and everyone experiences similar emotions.
Oh and if some men can’t tolerate strong women, it’s their own insecurity, it’s not a problem with those women.
This is not happening. Dear lord. May an asteroid destroy this planet and wipe all traces of our existence from the universe. What’s next? GFSOSTB? Goldfish Swimming Outside The Bowl?
We’re already in hell. One can only hope that there is something better after this.
I still find it hard to believe that we’re all here just by accident. I think we’ve been being lied to for some time, and it’s time to wake the fuck up and start questioning everything we’ve ever been taught.
I don’t believe in evolution…I feel so lazy to explain it but maybe if you ask me why annd I get the notification (because I sometimes don’t), I can just take a screenshot of 2 very short notes I have written about it. They are unbiased and very very easy to understand but for some reason, I just don’t feel like doing it at the moment.
Also, I find it dumb to think we just poofed here for no reason. So first there was the universe that poofed from nothing, then we poofed from “abiogesis”, then we die (because the sun will eventually go super nova), then a bunch of nothing again for the rest of time?
Nope.. don’t believe it. It’s not that I don’t want to believe it, it just sounds ridiculous (unfortunately since I hate this creator. The only reason I am not dead right now is because of my fear of hell).
To draw an association between unique, negative personal experience and a group (male, female) as a whole is rather silly and immature. And a blatant misrepresentation of cause. Yet, strangely common… even reading posts here there seems to be distinction and blame attributed to gender, not individuals, or acknowledgement of contributory roles. Frankly, the segregation of gender through arguably (thought not endorsed) normal human behaviour and emotion only furthers the animosity and divide. I understand the reasoning as an outlet for personal pain, yet cohesion and solidarity would really make this world a better place. The us vs. them mentality only holds us back; it’s perhaps better to see only another human, with their own distinctive personality, and understanding the reasons for shaping who they have become.
I respect you for posting this.
Personally, I feel like MGTOW are deluding themselves, but that is their business.
I understand the impulse – I am scared of my mother, and that stems from her depression and angry, at times violent outbursts and negativity aimed at my father for most of my childhood. I think this has given me mommy issues, which means I suck at interacting with women and have been involuntarily single for 90% of my life.
As a guy, if you don’t compete for women, you’re screwed, nothing is gonna happen. If you don’t have your life together and are confident, you’re screwed.
I understand why some guys despair, especially since some women can be very cruel when rejecting people. You’re left with a feeling of “why bother”.
But it’s your evolutionary role as a man – you’re the sperm and the woman is the egg, and it’s all a race to get there first.
So it’s kinda dumb to try to go against millions of years of evolution.
I’m very anti-MGTOW. I don’t have any hatred for the men involved in it, but I think their entire ideology is toxic. Men and women aren’t enemies, they aren’t rivals. They’re partners in life. We’re in this together. Any ideology that tries to drive us apart is not good.
The thing about mating, though, is that everyone is in it for themselves. That means that, at the most, people are aiming for win-win.
No one would ever intentionally aim for lose-win in mating. That is called a pity fuck, and the only people that engage in that have serious issues.
I dunno, I just keep hearing this thing about men and women being equal and partners and so on, and I have a super hard time believing it based on my actual experiences with romantic relationships.
It’s fine to think that way I suppose since morals are subjective but I do not like the way MGTOW groups do things because it looks like a bunch of cherry picking/propaganda.
They try to push their agenda of getting people to hate women by choosing the worst examples of women that they can find.
It’s better to keep those thoughts to yourself than to be in an extremist group. Feminists and MGTOW groups are basically the same thing. Both are unproductive and just spew hate.
Sure, I mean, I’m not planning to join MGTOW at all, mainly because I think they are ignorant.
And yes, many of them are bitter or hateful.
But like with feminists, I recon they feel very frustrated, and this is kind of their outlet.
I think it reflects super poorly on our society that we don’t take these kinds of things seriously at all. People are just expected to figure everything with regards to mating out by themselves.
Meanwhile all sorts of other, more “kosher” subjects are given an inordinate amount of bandwidth. Things like politics, markets, celebrity gossip, advertising, etc.
I saw videos about MGTOW and it just looked like a bunch of propaganda. It looked like an extremist group such as those feminist groups.
Sure, I really wouldn’t expose myself too much to it – it’s just mistaken.
Those guys should a) interact with some IRL women if they haven’t already, b) study some evolutionary psychology, and c) read some novels, preferably written by women.
Still, I think it’s legit for both sexes to complain about the opposite sex – you are bound to get super frustrated once in a while if you put yourself out there.