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Suicidality and Antidepressant Drugs

by Titania

Source: FDA Government Website

Antidepressants increased the risk compared to placebo of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in children, adolescents, and young adults in short-term studies of major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders.

The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric. Although a causal link between the emergence of such symptoms and either the worsening of depression and/or the emergence of suicidal impulses has not been established, there is concern that such symptoms may represent precursors to emerging suicidality.

Why is this crap still being sold?

I was craving murder with the Prozac. They disappeared when I stopped “treatment”.

Do you know people with antidepressants who behave strangely, want to kill themselves or others?


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BL98 8/25/2018 - 6:46 am

Titania. Side effects depends from person to person. Every specialist should take into consideration all factors that go into prescribing meds. And by meds i mean a combination that will take away the side effects if they can’t be avoided. Factors to take into consideration should be mg. (5, 10, 20 …), type of action, metabolism, frequency of depressing thoughts/ when the symptoms occur more often ( in the morning, at night ), other factors of stress, other conditions. As an example a combination of antidepressants, anti-anxiety meds and anti-psychotics isn’t uncommon, and they all balance the effects if given in proper dosage ( the person responds well to it ) and at proper time in the day. Giving meds isn’t just some magic. Some persons find the right spot and hit it after months and months of trying and failing. I am in no way defending psychiatrists who do not know how to do their jobs. But even the best of them may need this experimentation stage. On the other hand, many ( and i recommend ALL ) need therapy, done by another specialist, psychotherapist. Medication alone, in my view and said by many many studies, doesn’t do much good in the long run. Your brain may balance his processes but if your mind isn’t well, you resolved nothing. Regarding this study, from my point of view, wasn’t done on a sample of the population large enough. Mostly of the subjects had the problem discussed above. If their data showed this result, it means that a majority of the subjects had this symptoms (with 95% / 0.05 accuracy , because i doubt they used 99% / 0.01 , so it leaves 5% to error, respectively 1% ) but is anywhere specified for how long they had been changing medication and implications of strictly age and type of medication used ? They do not have and didn’t took all the aspects into consideration. This type of study and documentation often demands a lot of money and they just take bits of facts and made a study out of it. They described changing medication as just the “ possible “ need of it, I quote from the study here , and here : “ […] suicidal ideation, especially early during antidepressant treatment and when the dose is adjusted up or down. “ You should expect that if you do not counter balance AND YOU DO NOT USE PSYCHOTHERAPY. I am in no way glorifying this profession but I see it as necessary. In too many countries the relationships between psychiatrists and psychotherapists isn’t where it should be, and people have to suffer because of their individual ego and big self esteem as individual professionals who think they do not need each other’s help. I am sorry if I offended someone but this is just my opinion.

Titania 8/25/2018 - 7:09 am

Thank you for your answer. The FDA study is not a laboratory study, but a Food and Drug Administration study. They are more “powerful” than any laboratory. If they have written that the risk of suicide is higher, it is because it is. Many people maim themselves by taking antidepressants or a set of drugs as you say. This is not normal.

I also think that an “experimental phase” for a psychiatrist is not acceptable in the medical field, because we cannot play with people’s health. This is not a game with coloured candy. Psychiatry is not an exact science… it’s not even a science.

For the rest, I agree. I think psychotherapy is useful and much healthier.

a1957 8/25/2018 - 2:47 pm

What I am saying will have no scientific validity but they are observations of what I have seen in the four people I knew or know on anti-depressants.

Person A: Placed in ICU when her prescription could not be renewed.
Person B: Unable to continue her pilot career on account of them.
Person C: Slurring her speech.
Person D: She became very withdrawn.

Titania 8/25/2018 - 2:56 pm

Thank you for responding. It’s really sad that these drugs are ruining people’s lives. Psychiatrists know that, but money dominates…

a1957 8/25/2018 - 11:26 pm

They must be oblivious and/or very very greedy. Meanwhile, I am getting real relief from depression with cognitive therapy, a few essential oils, light exercise, and a few other things.

Yikrens 8/26/2018 - 7:40 am

I know so far Olanzapin, Atomoxetin and Fluoxetin. Also in comparison LSD.

LSD increased slightly suicidality.
Olanazapin decreased it.
I have no results on Atomoxetin alone, but in combination with Fluoxetin, high suicidal.

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