I think this is interesting even for an atheist or non-believer in an afterlife state. There is also an ex-atheist in the documentary. The best thing I learned after watching it is the gift to be able to love other people and doing something meaningful and good. Perhaps another thing I’ve learned is that no matter how much misery we experience, the goodness of the universe will always prevail and the happiness we will experience will be much, much greater and we will see one day, Life as the greatest gift.
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It’s good that this doc inspired you to feel better but every life and reality is different.
For some people who are at the end of their rope or they’re facing a terminal illness or have incurable diseases, physical or mental, or just don’t want to keep living, then nothing will change their situation and we need to realize that death is sometimes more peaceful and humane than to keep living.
I don’t need to see the doc to know that there is nothing after death and that you can never come back from it. Some people might recover in hospitals and that’s because their brains/bodies are functional.
However once your body dies/decays you are gone for good. If there was an existence in another realm then science would know about it already.
In fact at the LHC in France, they’ve probed for extra dimensions and found none. So anyone claiming they found something that science couldn’t is a delusional or a scammer.
There is only one universe, the one we’re living in and there is nothing “outside” it. To me this universe is amazing and awe-inspiring and existing is something special in itself. But given that we’re humans and have all the problems that come with it…then for some of us when life ceases to be ‘great’ then death is preferable.
Not stating that there is any proof of any of those things, but one of the fundamentals in science is that what happens can and does happen more than once. There isn’t any reason to believe there haven’t been more than one universe to form or that this one will be the last.
Multiple lives on the other hand, idk how that would even work. There isn’t anything to solidly connect us as individuals today to any other living being that might exist later on really. But that whole thing of why I’m me, why am I here experiencing this, why am I not you or this or that person, etc confuses the hell out of me. I don’t have a solid grasp in my head as to why “me” is here and not just someone else I’m not, like everyone else I’m not.
So I guess I’m cautiously open to the possibility that just like anything else that has happened before, maybe it could happen again. Not that I want it to or anything.
Sure if you buy into the multiverse theory-there could’ve been other big bangs, but based on evidence this is the only universe that we know of, for now.
Even if there were other universes it has nothing to do with speculation of an afterlife, for which there is no evidence.
Not sure what you mean by multiple lives-there is no science to support the idea of reincarnation or ‘coming back.’
Well we’re all separate entities and all we have in common is our humanity. There were times when my life got rough and I wished I was someone else but then there are a lot of people I wouldn’t want to be either. What I really wanted was to improve my situation….perhaps you’re thinking along the same lines.
In your last point were you thinking that people have come back and you think it’ll happen again? Ya that would imply your consciousness would leave your body and become someone else. I’d love to see anyone demonstrate a disembodied consciousness. If that could happen I think we’d be trying to steal bodies of people we wish we were born into.
When I was religious I engaged in some wishful thinking also. Once I realized religions were BS in my early teens I knew this is the only life I’ll ever get and to make the most of it.
Scientists are working on reversing aging or extending our lives, but I doubt we’ll see that happen in our lifetime, though I’d like to be young and immortal and then die on my own terms.
So if they don’t find a cure to aging, I won’t really care-I’ve lived a fairly full life, I wish I had more good experiences than bad but if I was to pass away suddenly I wouldn’t feel like I really missed anything though there are some things I’d still like to do before I go.
Yeah I mean a lot of what I was bringing up I guess wasn’t quite what the op was about. I’m having some red flags with my health problems and it’s just been a thing on my mind I guess. Normally wouldn’t even post or talk about it otherwise.
And for the life after death thing I actually meant the idea of a free floating consciousness or some kind of a soul is pretty absurd and the big reason why I don’t believe it’s likely there’s anything after. It’s just a small lingering doubt that maybe it could somehow happen again, and it’s probably just from overthinking.
I’m not religious anymore either. I spent enough time being subhuman trash to some God and it being okay to do whatever to me that would otherwise be wrong to do to anyone else. I’ve definitely not lived any kind of a full life but if I go I’m not gonna complain about not having to remember crap that’s happened or people I don’t want to remember anymore.
Sorry to hear about your health, having had some issues myself (but fortunately recovered from) I can relate.
As for the notion of an afterlife, it’s a relic from primitive societies when we didn’t understand science or the universe and it’s good to see you’re fairly rational about it.
Same for me-once I realized God was doing nothing to stop evil in the world and examined the absurd claims religions make, it just became clear to me they were nothing but myths and fables we invented to console ourselves, basically it’s all a pack of lies.
I hear you-certainly it’s no fun to recall bad experiences or people. But if you are able to improve your situation in life, then you can look back and feel that better that you no longer have to go through that or know those people.
While I’ve suffered a lot, I had good times as well and I realize there are people out there who’ve suffered far more than I have. I wonder how they’re able to keep going.
And though things are ‘ok’ for now and my life has been gradually improving, I’m not going to put up with more pointless suffering, especially if I develop any major health issues that won’t improve, I’m just going to opt for euthanasia which is legal here in Canada for certain reasons.
While the standards are strict, but getting better, at least it is now legal in our nation. I feel sorry for other nations that lag far behind us. The right to die should be the most basic, fundamental right that we all should have.
Unfortunately mostly because of religious loons who believe our body is a gift from god that can’t be destroyed, they are stopping society from becoming less barbaric and more humane esp for those who’d like to end their lives in dignity. At least we’re slowly but surely winning that fight-we need to do the same for abortion too.