Tried looking for help on a forum more focused on my specific issues. Was actually fully honest and open for once. Went pretty much as I’d expected. My post was taken down almost instantly. Some things you just can’t talk about, even to those who might understand. The only interaction I got was from a mod. They were respectful, but all they had to say was basically “You need to fix yourself before involving yourself with others. Fix your desire to do unacceptable things.”
And that’s pretty much all anyone ever has to say. And the question I always have is “How do you stop wanting something?” Because if any of us could do that, boy would life be simple. We can choose how to act on our desires, but the desires themselves are handed to us by biology and circumstance.
The reality I’ve been trying to avoid is that there’s nothing anybody can say. There’s no advice, there’s no guidance, there’s no fixing this. I’ve fucked up my life in such a unique and niche manner that the few people on the planet who can even relate are unable to talk about it, and wouldn’t have any constructive advice even if they could. I’m on my own, and I always have been. Even posting here is just screaming into the void. Sometimes the void screams back, or there’s an echo. But nobody can really understand, or relate, or help. It is in fact possible to fuck up so badly that that’s your situation. And that’s what I’ve done. And everything else I do is just denial of that reality.
I’m alone. And I have to take responsibility for that fact, and face it. Regardless of how lost and hopeless I feel. No one can save me. No one can help me. No one can understand. It doesn’t matter that we’re social creatures. It doesn’t matter that I don’t feel capable of managing alone. Because that’s the reality.
Any decision I make, any action I take, I’m the sole navigator. There’s no wiser mind out there who can guide me. No gods, no gurus, no teachers, no role models. I am an island.
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Yes, I admit I do a lousy job of being anything other than an echo or a sympathetic ear. I can relate to having very few people to follow behind, I’m charting my own course as well.
You can’t defeat desire. It can only slightly be directed, and even then, it has to be worked through. So getting around it? It’s a trick I’ve been trying to work on for a few decades. Buddhists believe the ultimate goal is to shed desire entirely.
Me, I think the issue is with acceptance. What is unacceptable? People don’t accept a lot of things, because most people are awfully closed minded. As if being different from other people is a personal attack on them.
Which is a way I don’t seem to be capable of not assaulting everyone I meet. I cannot conform and by that metric, they find me a repulsive object. I turn stomachs, none more than my own.
Some (few) things are unacceptable for good reason. Which is hard enough to accept, when your mind happens to fixate on some of those things. But to let go of such desires entirely feels next to impossible. If you can do that, then you’re beyond the need for acceptance anyway.
That sounds like the internet 2024 for ya. It’s not surprising. I’ve had more than my share of depression posts pulled, bc apparently, I was TOO depressing for a DEPRESSION site. Like WTF- if we can’t talk about depression on a depression site, then where the FUCK can we talk about depression?
And I’ve also been told I’m too depressing at depression meetups. And yet I’ve gone to psychiatrists, therapists, and even in-patient- hell, I just got out of an in-patient psychiatrist hospital for depression and apparently I “look too happy to be depressed!” LIke WTF?
Anyhow, back to the point- the internet in the last few years has gotten ridiculous- we aren’t allowed to mention suicide, or even say the word suicide, we now have to say unalive, bc apparently if you use a different word, then the problem just goes away! I know right! Everything is banned on the internet now, and every word is a trigger for someone, someone always has to complain about something. You can’t talk about your depression on a depression website. Yeah, makes TOTAL sense.
Anyhow, back to the point- if there are pedo websites where ppl can safely discuss pedo (like the ppl who have those urges but know they can’t act on them and try very hard to NOT act on them)- if there are forums like that- I’m sure you can find a forum somewhere, idk where for whatever you have- but it’ll definitely take some finding. Hell, it took me ages to find THIS website where we can actually talk about suicide/deep depression/and not have our posts pulled bc “you are too depressing” -_-
Sorry to hear you’ve been in psych hospital (generally not a good experience I gather). Hope things get a little easier for you.
thanks, but not sure my life will ever “get easier” 🙁
Believe it or not, I think I might be one of those people who can relate to you. You havent been specific, but I suspect we have some of the same issues. At least, you speak like someone who does.
I’m willing to talk openly about these things here, if it means it would help you, or someone else. I think stigmatizing certain struggles makes them more difficult to address and fix. I do not believe that keeping things taboo is helpful.
But I, too, am struggling. I struggle with desires, I struggle to relate to others, I struggle to salvage a life that most would consider ruined.
Anyway, let me know. It’s cliché, but ya ain’t alone.
Hey man, I don’t think I’d ever feel comfortable discussing my stuff on a general forum like this. The shame is just too much for that, and it would just become a source of anxiety for me to avoid. I might be down to talk about stuff over email though if that’s something you’d be interested in.
Sure! Id be happy to talk, and Ill tell you my stuff in collateral. (I wish SP had DMs sometimes) What email address is best?
I can send one to the address attached to your comment, if that’s active? Still not sure how much I want to say though.
I didn’t realize an address was attached to my comment! Idk how to see it, which one is it?
Yeah, I think a lot of people don’t realise that, the author of the post you comment on can see the address you signed up to the site with if they go to the “comments” option on the sidebar menu thing. Yours is a yahoo address with 911 in it?
I was wondering why the 2 of you hadn’t exchanged info till now lol. Glad you guys have each other to talk to about “stuff.”
If you have a fixation on murder, or rape, or pedophilia; it was probably passed along to you biologically. If anyone close to you up to and including your great grandparents were the product of a rape, and you have an insatiable desire to rape, it’s probably that person’s genetic markers that give you a bent toward that thing.
I like to personify things and so I will create an entity, or demon, out of the thing itself. You hate that you can’t resist the thoughts that come into your mind. If you act on them, in any way, even a general discussion that doesn’t stigmatize it, you are doing yourself a disservice. If you act on it, and you choose to maintain your conscience, you will hate yourself. One day you will realize it’s not who you are and that it wasn’t your desire, but that you were possessed by a force that made it impossible for you to overcome it. You might think that your life is merely a cosmic play that only exists to envelope a higher being into the drama. And you might be right.
I know that my words may not seem hopeful, but I hope that you will find peace in them, knowing you aren’t alone.
While I agree there are certainly genetic aspects to most mental traits, I think it’s more complicated than that. At least for me, I think environmental and social factors also played a key role. I could easily see myself turning out entirely psychologically normal in different circumstances. And I have no indication that any of my recent ancestors were abnormal. Which is not to say that ancestral traits played no part. Just that except for these unusual circumstances, they wouldn’t have caused such a problem.
Not sure I’ve understood you right, but I don’t believe in higher beings. They may exist, but I see no evidence of them interfering in my life. I believe that these desires are mine, as much as any are. They’re not just thoughts implanted from some malignant outside force – I have strong emotional attachments to them. They make sense as a part of my psychological makeup. I just also happen to have strong counter-thoughts and emotions that limit how much I act on them.
So I believe that it is part of who I am, and this conflict is a part of “me”. To the extent that “I” am anything. Not saying I’ll never change my mind on that. But I think it would require either strong evidence, or a complete mental fracturing to the extent that my rational facilities were destroyed.