I wish I could take all of your pain onto myself so that none of you ever had to suffer again. I wish I could bring each of you your favorite comforts.
Brother, I’m sure you have enough of your own pain/suffering to handle…you wouldn’t want to take on the world’s suffering-there’s too much.
But for me it’d just take about $2 million after tax to fix most of my problems and the rest I can sort out on my own. It’d get me an ‘ok’ house and a nest egg so I never have to work. The more the better ofc. 😉
I think the biggest issues for most people is finances and physical/mental disabilities.
I never really thought of myself as a quitter…but one can make a calculated assessment that life is not worth all the trouble.
If I had a nice place to live in and needs met and say my only problem was finding a good spouse/mate, that’s something I could tolerate.
But it’s just one problem after another, on top of being old and getting older and having health concerns.
Mentally I still feel I’m in my 20s and 30s…but my body says otherwise.
What’s saddening is to see the life I could’ve had…hell I would’ve accepted being on the low end of the middle-class but I didn’t even get that far. All we do is meet our needs and don’t really get ahead.
I won’t ramble on, I’ve shared my experience often here…nothing much has changed, my only hope is that is doesn’t go downhill from here.
I’m on thin-ice at my job because of the problems I have where I live and I’m trying to move. My side-hustle isn’t paying off yet for the same reason.
So the best I can hope for is that I don’t lose my job, move out and then start improving my life after that…then I tick closer to my mid-50s and beyond.
It’s hard to see the opportunities around you when you’re young, for dating and career…but only realize way too late.
Would I want a do-over? The studying was too much, I think I’m ok where I am….though I would’ve liked to have dated more than I did.
Scary how this is relatable.. maybe I’m a tad younger but, not by much. 2 mils usd sounds about right, altho 2 mils cad would somehow still do it here. Think I’ll get there, but I’m not too sure when. Already close to a mil in cad, but things fluctuates so much these days. No house, I’m still renting, paid for cheap honda car, no debts.
I feel the same, plainwhite taking on all the pain from here would be pretty unfair and cruel tbh.. I think everybody is responsible for their own pain, mistakes and flaws. Better to share the struggles than to spit them onto one martyr.
I do feel very immature, even if I’m in my middle 40s. Don’t think that is what you meant but, anyway. I have many regrets too, feels so bad, actually. So much shame.
Already having health problems, but I drink, I’m obese and I don’t exercise so, most likely lifestyle related than age related. My grandad was still fully functional (aside from his eyes, cornea degenerescence) at 92 so.. he was strong af.. incredible dude.
Nice you could almost quit working on that much…it’s possible for example to get a tiny house or something cheap but nice and live off your savings.
Then you can focus on other goals-without knowing your life situation ofc.
You’re way ahead of me in the game. Granted I admit I was looking to beat the system and failed (so far) but hopefully if things work in my direction in the coming year, I could improve my life.
Oh ya I learned the hard way what happens when you stop working out. I started getting major back issues, high blood pressure and other things.
But that’s largely due to where I live. I’ve always been the athletic type-it’s just in my genes to want to work out and stay fit…but my current situation has stopped me.
Hopefully I’m able to move this year and that should change everything, we’ll see. I’d recommend working out-but you might have something in your life preventing you, like it is me rn.
yeah, that’s the thing, I could “almost” quit working and buy something cheap, far from the big cities.. but I can’t really. Btw, I am not self made.. I did had a maintenance job that paid well for 4.5 years, invested in crypto (I am not advocating for it) and made a 3x on investment (less so with the latest trump tariffs bs). That is only a fraction of it tho. Since my dad died when I was young (18), my grandparents put my name on the will instead of his, and when my grandmother died, got a pretty nice sum. So yeah, I’m just lucky I guess. Then when my mom passes away, if that’s before I do, then it’ll be another significant sum. Aside from working and basic needs, money doesn’t change much, I’d say. My grandfather was so hardcore, he kept his money in the stock market all his life.. like he said, you gotta beat inflation, else you’re getting poorer by the day. Also another thing he said is, “if you want something, first ask yourself if you really need it. Then if you do, ask yourself if you can build it yourself, then if you can’t, save until you have enough and then go buy it”.
Wish I made all that money myself but, I didn’t. Maybe I’ll try to code games from now on, try to get a hit on the market but, highly unlikely. Maybe building up an audience with multiple titles, idk. The competition is extremely fierce, and I’m definitely not the best out there. Seems it’s a hit and miss type of thing.
For working out, you’re absolutely right, I definitely should, and I have the time.. and no, nothing prevents me, aside from the lungs working poorly, waiting for a pneumologist appointment, hopefully soon.
I hope your plans can fructify, better have more than one solution at a time, so that, whichever works carry the weight of the ones that doesn’t.
Being an athletic type is really good, probably better than having money tbh.. as they say, the first wealth is health, and working out is a huge part of it, we’re built to exercise, go outside, socialize and all.
It’s all good…at least you have some family members that can pass along some wealth to you. But I understand it probably isn’t quite enough for everything you wish to do in your life.
Good job on crypto…I had a good instinct on Bitcoin from the start but I hesitated-even if I put in $100, 20 yrs ago, I’d be set today.
My father has left some money for us in his will…which is not a lot, but would help with a downpayment for a house…or I’m even thinking of just partying with it before I take leave of this life…since I’m in my early 50s anyways. All I have to look forward to is old age.
Also while he’s older he could pass away any time or might live for another 10-20 years for all I know (he’s in his late 70s). So it’s really not something I’m counting on and working on making my own nest egg.
For sure health is a form of wealth…but it’s hard to maintain if your life is chaotic…and being in shape/looking good matters for dating and so forth.
I can’t even begin to tell you how bad my life has been these past 4 years or so-all because of the places I’ve been living in-totally wrecking my life.
Once I move then I’ll be able to work on upgrading things for myself…but for now I’m just in a holding pattern, trying to prevent it from getting worse.
As Paul Sartre once said “hell is other people” and I’ve found out the hard way.
Plainwhite4/26/2025 - 8:30 pm
Thank you. I only wish to convey my regrets that you all suffer similarly to me. I wish it wasnt the case.
Nah don’t feel guilty PW…we’re all thrown into an imperfect world, made by imperfect people. While I wish I could save others who are worse off than me, I can barely save myself.
Our suffering/pain is a consequence of people who came before us making bad decisions-like bringing children into the world when they shouldn’t.
We’re far from a utopianist civilization but I hope in the future, humanity improves collectively so that nobody suffers and life is a nice journey.
But for now we just have to make due…and while most of us do fear death, at least life is not infinite-then it would be hell.
Despite the ‘bittersweet’ life I’ve had, I’ve come to accept my fate so and I will be glad when this is all over. For a brief time I’d say I had it good…but if I can’t have that all the time-then it’s not worth living.
One good thing about this site, that at least we know we’re not alone in our pain and suffering…it makes it slightly better.
Soda: So, where you’ve been living? sounds like hell..
There is no need to regret not putting money in crypto, nobody knew it would take off like this. Same with the stock market and whatnot. I had some when btc was 300$ worth, and sold it off so, you’re not the only one. I got back in 2020, when covid happened, and that’s when I started learning about it, and overall finance too, and that made a big change. It’s a mindset, you gotta see the big picture, have balls of steel, and buy when it’s going down and selling when it’s going up type of deal.. it is not easy.
Being in early 50s, you have a while to turn things around, hope you do. I need to do the same but with health cause, I am dying, slowly, even if I don’t end it directly.
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Brother, I’m sure you have enough of your own pain/suffering to handle…you wouldn’t want to take on the world’s suffering-there’s too much.
But for me it’d just take about $2 million after tax to fix most of my problems and the rest I can sort out on my own. It’d get me an ‘ok’ house and a nest egg so I never have to work. The more the better ofc. 😉
I think the biggest issues for most people is finances and physical/mental disabilities.
I never really thought of myself as a quitter…but one can make a calculated assessment that life is not worth all the trouble.
If I had a nice place to live in and needs met and say my only problem was finding a good spouse/mate, that’s something I could tolerate.
But it’s just one problem after another, on top of being old and getting older and having health concerns.
Mentally I still feel I’m in my 20s and 30s…but my body says otherwise.
What’s saddening is to see the life I could’ve had…hell I would’ve accepted being on the low end of the middle-class but I didn’t even get that far. All we do is meet our needs and don’t really get ahead.
I won’t ramble on, I’ve shared my experience often here…nothing much has changed, my only hope is that is doesn’t go downhill from here.
I’m on thin-ice at my job because of the problems I have where I live and I’m trying to move. My side-hustle isn’t paying off yet for the same reason.
So the best I can hope for is that I don’t lose my job, move out and then start improving my life after that…then I tick closer to my mid-50s and beyond.
It’s hard to see the opportunities around you when you’re young, for dating and career…but only realize way too late.
Would I want a do-over? The studying was too much, I think I’m ok where I am….though I would’ve liked to have dated more than I did.
Scary how this is relatable.. maybe I’m a tad younger but, not by much. 2 mils usd sounds about right, altho 2 mils cad would somehow still do it here. Think I’ll get there, but I’m not too sure when. Already close to a mil in cad, but things fluctuates so much these days. No house, I’m still renting, paid for cheap honda car, no debts.
I feel the same, plainwhite taking on all the pain from here would be pretty unfair and cruel tbh.. I think everybody is responsible for their own pain, mistakes and flaws. Better to share the struggles than to spit them onto one martyr.
I do feel very immature, even if I’m in my middle 40s. Don’t think that is what you meant but, anyway. I have many regrets too, feels so bad, actually. So much shame.
Already having health problems, but I drink, I’m obese and I don’t exercise so, most likely lifestyle related than age related. My grandad was still fully functional (aside from his eyes, cornea degenerescence) at 92 so.. he was strong af.. incredible dude.
be well
Nice you could almost quit working on that much…it’s possible for example to get a tiny house or something cheap but nice and live off your savings.
Then you can focus on other goals-without knowing your life situation ofc.
You’re way ahead of me in the game. Granted I admit I was looking to beat the system and failed (so far) but hopefully if things work in my direction in the coming year, I could improve my life.
Oh ya I learned the hard way what happens when you stop working out. I started getting major back issues, high blood pressure and other things.
But that’s largely due to where I live. I’ve always been the athletic type-it’s just in my genes to want to work out and stay fit…but my current situation has stopped me.
Hopefully I’m able to move this year and that should change everything, we’ll see. I’d recommend working out-but you might have something in your life preventing you, like it is me rn.
Good to hear about your grand-dad. Be well also.
yeah, that’s the thing, I could “almost” quit working and buy something cheap, far from the big cities.. but I can’t really. Btw, I am not self made.. I did had a maintenance job that paid well for 4.5 years, invested in crypto (I am not advocating for it) and made a 3x on investment (less so with the latest trump tariffs bs). That is only a fraction of it tho. Since my dad died when I was young (18), my grandparents put my name on the will instead of his, and when my grandmother died, got a pretty nice sum. So yeah, I’m just lucky I guess. Then when my mom passes away, if that’s before I do, then it’ll be another significant sum. Aside from working and basic needs, money doesn’t change much, I’d say. My grandfather was so hardcore, he kept his money in the stock market all his life.. like he said, you gotta beat inflation, else you’re getting poorer by the day. Also another thing he said is, “if you want something, first ask yourself if you really need it. Then if you do, ask yourself if you can build it yourself, then if you can’t, save until you have enough and then go buy it”.
Wish I made all that money myself but, I didn’t. Maybe I’ll try to code games from now on, try to get a hit on the market but, highly unlikely. Maybe building up an audience with multiple titles, idk. The competition is extremely fierce, and I’m definitely not the best out there. Seems it’s a hit and miss type of thing.
For working out, you’re absolutely right, I definitely should, and I have the time.. and no, nothing prevents me, aside from the lungs working poorly, waiting for a pneumologist appointment, hopefully soon.
I hope your plans can fructify, better have more than one solution at a time, so that, whichever works carry the weight of the ones that doesn’t.
Being an athletic type is really good, probably better than having money tbh.. as they say, the first wealth is health, and working out is a huge part of it, we’re built to exercise, go outside, socialize and all.
cheers
It’s all good…at least you have some family members that can pass along some wealth to you. But I understand it probably isn’t quite enough for everything you wish to do in your life.
Good job on crypto…I had a good instinct on Bitcoin from the start but I hesitated-even if I put in $100, 20 yrs ago, I’d be set today.
My father has left some money for us in his will…which is not a lot, but would help with a downpayment for a house…or I’m even thinking of just partying with it before I take leave of this life…since I’m in my early 50s anyways. All I have to look forward to is old age.
Also while he’s older he could pass away any time or might live for another 10-20 years for all I know (he’s in his late 70s). So it’s really not something I’m counting on and working on making my own nest egg.
For sure health is a form of wealth…but it’s hard to maintain if your life is chaotic…and being in shape/looking good matters for dating and so forth.
I can’t even begin to tell you how bad my life has been these past 4 years or so-all because of the places I’ve been living in-totally wrecking my life.
Once I move then I’ll be able to work on upgrading things for myself…but for now I’m just in a holding pattern, trying to prevent it from getting worse.
As Paul Sartre once said “hell is other people” and I’ve found out the hard way.
Thank you. I only wish to convey my regrets that you all suffer similarly to me. I wish it wasnt the case.
I didn’t mean anything bad, just saying we got you, let’s share our pain here and try to make each other hurt a little less..
Nah don’t feel guilty PW…we’re all thrown into an imperfect world, made by imperfect people. While I wish I could save others who are worse off than me, I can barely save myself.
Our suffering/pain is a consequence of people who came before us making bad decisions-like bringing children into the world when they shouldn’t.
We’re far from a utopianist civilization but I hope in the future, humanity improves collectively so that nobody suffers and life is a nice journey.
But for now we just have to make due…and while most of us do fear death, at least life is not infinite-then it would be hell.
Despite the ‘bittersweet’ life I’ve had, I’ve come to accept my fate so and I will be glad when this is all over. For a brief time I’d say I had it good…but if I can’t have that all the time-then it’s not worth living.
One good thing about this site, that at least we know we’re not alone in our pain and suffering…it makes it slightly better.
You’re one of the good ones, Plainwhite.
Thank you, D2d.
Soda: So, where you’ve been living? sounds like hell..
There is no need to regret not putting money in crypto, nobody knew it would take off like this. Same with the stock market and whatnot. I had some when btc was 300$ worth, and sold it off so, you’re not the only one. I got back in 2020, when covid happened, and that’s when I started learning about it, and overall finance too, and that made a big change. It’s a mindset, you gotta see the big picture, have balls of steel, and buy when it’s going down and selling when it’s going up type of deal.. it is not easy.
Being in early 50s, you have a while to turn things around, hope you do. I need to do the same but with health cause, I am dying, slowly, even if I don’t end it directly.
cheers