you all try to talk people out of killing themselves. you claim it will get better. that its only temporary. that you can get help, get over it, move on. that there is soome way for life to be somethin g other than a living hell.
but what about those who would be better off dead? what about those that are cursed with this huge darkness in their head? the ones tht are sick and twisted inside, just born wrong, wnating and getting onff on wrong things? would you try to talk them out of dying?
could you try to talk someone out of killing themselves if yu knew that person got off on surgical videos? photos of murder victims? worse? knowing there’s no cure, could you try to talk them into choosing life knowing that maybe one day they lose control?
or would you cheer them on? offer suggestions on how to do it? try to help them go faster in ordert o protect others? say what you want in the commets but be honest with yourselfs at least. we all konw that for the sake of everyone, people like that should go… right? (and yeah… I figger this postll be deleted… cant let shit like this affect the public.)
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You’re wrong. Those things you listed can be solved with CBT. Don’t be ignorant. Nobody deserves death. They can learn how to live okay with their mental issues. You’re opinion on this stems off of ignorance. I can’t believe you.
My friend, lover and par….t…ner of 15 years…left last fall. I know his story…I know his pain. Just before Xmas last year…he called to tell me he was going home. I assumed he meant he was going to be with his family who live several hours from here. So I asked him…”Any idea when you are coming back?”
And that is when I understood the full depth of his pain…he said he wasn’t coming back…that he was going home to die. No emotion, no drama, no nothing. Matter of fact. He had had 2 psychotic breaks the first 2 Xmas times we knew each other..when we were still just friends. My family walked away on me…thought I was insane getting involved in his insanity…actually my mother accused me of doing it to him…hahaha 🙁 But I knew I was his best hope. A few years later we became romantically involved…and he hadn’t had an “episode in years”. So maybe I was good for him…I dunno. But last year…I knew it was 3 strikes and out for him…had known it for years…so I knew if he attempted…he would be successful. Keep in mind that I love this man far too much…but I love him unconditionally. So what do you think I did? You’ll never guess…haha…I’m still shaking my head.
We don’t really know anything till we try the shoes on eh? I admit I got very quiet…and then I said…”I love you too much to keep watching you suffer. But if you go…I will suffer. I am willing to take your pain for you…so you have my blessing and support…no matter what. If you can’t go on any longer…I will even help you if you ask. (And yes I know…it would have killed me) But I was willing to help him…I loved him that much. He said…I can’t ask you to do that…that would be against everything you believe. And I said…You are worth more…but my soul is all I have to offer…I have no miracle cures…and I am willing to sacrifice my beliefs…in order to help you find your Peace. And then the line went dead. I tried frantically to get in touch with him…phone, cell, email…but he didn’t respond. That was a horrible night and I made it through thanks to some very kind souls here. Because I really would have helped him…all he had to do is ask. I can’t help that I hoped that he wouldn’t.
Does this answer your questions? I hope so…thank you for allowing me a good cry at your expense…I appreciate it. Gonna have to take a little break … 🙁
But oh yeah….he came to my door the next night…apologized for dumping his shit all over me…and said it was worth sticking around…just to be with me. Yeah there was a lot more to it…but that is personal…;) We are now at the one year anniversary…and admittedly things have not all been rosy…but we have forged a new relationship…with lots of space…we have a date tonight actually…but we will never live together again…my happy was just making him feel worse 🙁 But I am now looking forward to growing older with my old man…and things HAVE turned around for him. He also promised if he ever started thinking that way again…he would ask for help…from someone other than me. 😀
Peace
Here if you want to talk
Amakua
and ty for the impromptu therapy and healing I just experienced…:D
Amakua im glad you got some good out ot it. doesnt hit the point of the post tho unless your partner gott off on thoughts of hurting people or the like. nd not just dyring psychotic breaks but consistently for years on end.
Hey Helpmego,
The point of my comment is this…where there is life there is hope. I won’t discuss his particular brand of psychosis…it is irrelevant. Your fixation could be a manifestation of several strong emotions…like hate, fear, helplessness, unworthiness…what the heck do I know.
I wouldn’t recommend euthanasia right off the hop…no Not without understanding the nature of the dis”ease”…and investigating all other channels. Some of the most horrible humans miraculously go on to do incredible things for the betterment of civilization…so nope. No judge or jury here…that has to be a personal choice. But I do know that if you were truly the monster that you paint yourself to be…you wouldn’t have had to ask the question in the first place. Who knows…it could be a repressed childhood memory…it could be a fantasy that makes you feel powerful when you really feel powerless. No doctors here love. But I would urge you to get help…for your sake and for the rest of us as well. Know what I mean?
If I’ve still missed the point…I apologize…slow old woman here 🙂
But yeah…I think even you are worth “saving” from yourself.
The response and therapy were mucho appreciato 😀
Peace
Amakua
i have the same doubt that you have. but… i really don’t believe on humanity. i mean, i don’t think there are a right way to be a human. humanity as we conceive is an ilusion. so, even that there is such thing as CBT to turn people back to normal, this is just forcing people to fit into normal society. you can say that someone who is that fucked up will have a miserable life, but i think normal life it’s just shallow and empty, and miserable too. so… i just don’t know. it’s just the way i think. i am also a very fucked up person, but this is who i am. i will keep being a monster, and i know i should pay a price for it.
I wouldn’t try to talk you out of dying because i believe suicide is a choice that only you should decide, not fam. , nor friends nor government and especially not a schizophrenically ‘divided self’, but a mentally stable person. And the reality could be that some things will never get better.
Your inclinations that you feel toward sadistism could be mild if you broaden the scope of ‘normal’. Who knows what private pleasures the majority perversely indulge in (at least you’re expressing yours’ as a living hell), not to forget that quite a few pepole in power have carried out frightening acts of horror on their neighbors, without being held accountable in their lifetime(they seemed to have blissfully carried on). So because you don’t know what’s in the heads of people, whose to say you are in the minority. Just imagine if it were that the ‘cursed’ people were to disappear 2morrow. Imagine this revealed only 5% of the human pop. being mentally stable. Plus people with schizophrenia, psychosis, psychopathy or even OCD need support and it is out there.
But i stress, i hate suffering and would hate the idea of me talking someone out of suicide or egging someone on. It’s just too complicated.