I made a post that appeared yesterday, and I saw four comments underneath it by the evening. Â And today I can find no trace of what I posted. Â I discussed the issues I had been going through, and what I planned to do about it. Â Like I said, four different responses had appeared beneath it. Â And now the post and comments are nowhere to be found.
When I click on my username, it tells me that there are “no posts by this author.”
Anyone have an explanation as to what may have happened?
Filed under General and Stories of Loss, not just because of what I’ve lost in my life, but also I have lost my post and lost the support of the people who responded and understood what I have been going through.
A brief recap of what I posted: I have had health problems for two decades. Â I gave a summary of what conditions I have, and what additional conditions I may also have which haven’t been properly diagnosed. Â I have seen many doctors and tried many therapies. Â I briefly discussed the methods under my consideration.
I am guessing that some moderator deleted my post and other users’ comments, but I have no explanation as to why.
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The moderator deleted it. He only allows links to his chatsite and blog. You should check it out.
Why did the moderator delete it? My post contained no links to any sites.
Was my post *supposed* to contain links to his chatsite and blog? I still don’t understand what I did wrong.
I’m glad at least that some people responded with sympathy, understanding, and support to my predicament before my post was deleted for no apparent reason.
Your post made slight reference to methods. In the old days the site was unmoderated. It was a good site back then, only one of it’s kind. Then all of a sudden these complete idiots decided they wanted to take over for no apparent reason. Then the desecrated the entire site. They pick and choose which rules to enforce. For example, your not meant to post links to their chat site yet those invariably appear.
I hope Admin reads my comments. He’s actually a fairly reasonable guy. It’s just the others that are a problem we could all do without.
Ahhh, now I understand why my post was deleted. My post contained no links to any sites whatsoever, but because I posted about what methods I was considering in some detail, helium and firearms, they decided to delete my post, rather than simply edit it out the offending material. That’s really too bad.
Thank you for your reply, e2n. I hope you find whatever solution works for you.
There used to be a post on here called The Helium Hood Method. You would have found that a valuable resource. Unfortunately it no longer exists.
EtN is correct – it appears to have been trashed (It’s in the trashed posts) i remember reading it – i don’t recall there being specific details regarding “methods” and/or “how to …” information … but evidently even mentioning them by name is too much for some moderators … i don’t know how you discuss suicide without mentioning any method at all … it’d be like discussing baseball or cricket without mentioning bats
more proof in the degradation in common sense in this world
cornfused dawg
Even talking about it now could be dangerous. I think we all just have to accept that this site had it’s time. All the lives it affected, changed and I’m pretty sure it taught people more about life than death. The users that took over had no appreciation of the site so they wouldn’t understand the damage that they’ve cause. Lord only knows what possessed them to do that. Even Internet trolls mostly had respect for this place. People could sufficiently moderate their own posts. I think they are struggling for customers and this site is still potentially the main feeder. Still, can’t honestly believe they are doing any good around here. Just ask a genuine SP’er.
Am i genuined? D: am i included as a veteran of the good SP days before the troll wars of 2012 y.y
And shhhhh they’re watching us…they know who we are
Wouldn’t be the same without you
Maybe one of these days i’ll pull the hard drive from my old PC and find my copy of the HHM thread and repost it … I do have it 😉
packrat dawg
Reposting the HHM would be appreciated. Even after having done my own due diligence on the method, there are probably some things I still don’t know about it. After the research, experimentation, and my own one incomplete attempt due to panic (extreme anxiety, but no physical discomfort), I made some modifications to the method presented in the video and book by Humphreys. I think these modifications will make it more effective and less unpleasant for me, but would like to see what other issues people have experienced with HHM.
I don’t think reposting it is going to be possible. To do so would contravene the rules. Admin was aware of it, he was also aware that this site would be dormant if not for those posts. This site is almost 10 years old. It only became popular in 2009.
I didn’t really know much about the live people live before I found this site. I can understand why the ordinary person would be horrified by a post like HHM. Once, I might have felt that way too. Now I and I think a lot of people that have been here are grateful to have had that unique life experience even if it is only an Internet website.
It must have been important to the posters because they left specific instructions to family members to post on here after their deaths. Family members were prepared to do that.
I’ve never seen anything like it and could never have imagined others just find it morbid. It’s no fun botching your suicide either.
I found my post in the trash, thanks Dawg. And thanks to you, too, E2N. Any suggestions for an Internet search that would uncover any additional useful information on the HHM?
I theorize that with me never having visited this site there would be less drama alapacas running about. No Llamas. Alpacas because its worse.
Hm can you still see comments on trashed posts?
Yes, all four comments are still there.
Folks, at one time, we basically had no rules. People abused our good will and started using the site as a way to exchange suicide methods — which is not the purpose of the site (duh).
So then we instituted some rules. Now we ask you not post about methods. Some people still do, ignoring our rules. That’s fine, but then don’t be surprised when your post is deleted.
We are not a site where you go to discuss methods. You want those sites? Google for ’em… there’s plenty of them out there.
@SP Admin – there’s a HUUUGE difference between “discussing” and “mentioning” … seems some of the newer moderators have a hair trigger at the mere mention of “Gun” or “Rope” or Helium” etc. … time to get a little common sense instead of instantly getting butthurt.
I agree if people are exchanging specific methodologies with “How to …” data … that’s a violation of your good will … but i’f i say i’m gonna jump off a bridge, it seems counter productive to delete my post because i mentioned a method – it violates the whole purpose the site was trying to achieve.
I think generally, people would just like to know they’re being heard and in their time of need, being overly scrutinized, criticized and sanctioned is more likely to have a negative impact
I know if i can edit other people’s comments on my threads, i’m pretty sure a Moderator can edit posts and comments of all submissions … you could just as easily edit out/censor the offending comment as you can arbitrarily delete someone’s work which in their emotional/mental state could be damaging … but hey – it’s your site
suggestion dawg
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That response from ‘SP Administrator is’ …quite telling, really…
When people start talking of their “good will” and saying stuff like, “You want those sites? Google for ‘em… there’s plenty of them out there”,
it worries me. I’ve interacted on a couple of these sites; intelligence doesn’t seem to be a criterion to be a moderator, generally.
I recall one instance of an SP Moderator ‘intervention’ : “inappropriate posts deleted” — suicideproject [dot] org/2013/06/hating-myself/#comment-255800;
they even cared to interact a bit more and write some nonsense of them also being on another (related ?) site – a bit of banter, which has been deleted…
A lot of good comments which don’t contravene “rules”, written out of compassion, taking time and effort, are deleted (not by OPs), with no explanation; and, of course there are posts, as in this case, which are deleted. (I suppose the exception -mentioned above- is because a moderator had one hand free (?) even to write more after that [though irrelevant/nonsensical]); forget about saving that hand to perhaps interact (as with the comment here ^) to provide feedback as to *why* other posts/comments are deleted…
A lot of stupidity here; hardly any real compassion even – one really shouldn’t mention their *”good will”* when their actions, apart from having the website (for whatever reason?), are not consistent with such a statement of themself.
Yes, the site, even with the stupidity, *does* help people (hey, your “good will”), but, the people moderating this site simply don’t have the kind of nature/character one requires on a site like this.
Also, *”duh”* (?) – seriously (?!), and on a post written by someone struggling with health issues that compel them to contemplate suicide… well, given the actions of the moderators here, I suppose you’ll just come back with a *”duh”* at me…
“PPS – Please do not bother writing us to let us know how evil or bad or
stupid our website is. We know already, thanks.” [suicideproject [dot] org/about/]– yeah, good of you to have included that…
You’re welcome to delete my account here ( as if you require my permisssion – “duh”); like (given your *”good will”*) you’ve mentioned, re other sites, just *”Google ’em”*, right (?) – yeah, I hear ya – “duh”… Okay…
I, perhaps, should not have commented, particularly given, for one, Dawg’s comment, which should suffice, but, needs to be said…
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@numb_x : Best of luck. Sorry to place this on your post.
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* ‘SP Administrator’ is …
Yes, sorry about the prior tone of my reply. We just get real sick of people ignoring the rules. It looks so easy to keep this site running and to be “fair” to everyone in how we decide something needs to go. But it’s harder than it looks and we do the best we can around here.
I agree, mere mentions of a method should not result in deletion of a post. I will reinforce this with the moderators to ensure it stops happening.
My apologies.
Some moderators have censored some posts in the past 🙂
Not a bad form of moderation. And well sometimes we get away with discussing suicide..not helping but giving advice on stuff and results
^ Thanks; your response (the manner thereof, even) is appreciated, @SP Administrator. Again, thanks.