The greatest existential journey of death…I think it can truly only be taken alone. Another person may be physically there but they won’t experience exactly what you experience. Ultimately, alone.
I’ve been alone most of my life. And I feel so incredibly alone now. And I’m scared. I really want my last moments to be with someone, you know? Shouldnt I have what I want? At least at the end.
I would like to go with someone, i was thinking of taking kids with me but its unfair. my bf is not suicidal, my sis was suicidal & we made lesibianism together. but she killed herself & didnt wait.
I might go in May or June. would u like to go together?
My divorcee mother was always broken & suicidal, weeping long night in her locked room. I was 5 y o when suddenly came out of room, full nacked with a big sharp knife, & stabbed her 5 month pregnant belly at least 7 time as i remember the scene, & fell dead. thanks to that my sis & i lived abused & suicidal.
I dont like the same for my kids, any suggestion???
With someone has it’s pros and cons. It would have to be with someone I really cared about and I knew cared about me. No uncertainties, no asking them to do me in, that would just be selfish. I would not end it for them either. That leaves a limited amount of exit methods. I wouldn’t mind holding their hand. :'(
God loves you. I love you. You’re not alone. 🙂 Jesus knows the world is messed up, that’s why he died for us personally to save us from our messed-upness. Read your Bible…
I don’t think it is possible to die with someone….you my die along side them at the same time but you can’t die with them….like you don’t experience it *with* them….your death is still solely your death….now maybe it is comforting to some to have someone die along side you but personally I’d rather go it alone….like the first comment says….”born alone die alone”
But you aren’t born alone, you usually have multiple people attending to you, a mother or fathers arms to be held in, their eyes looking into yours with wonder. Professionals to remove excess mucus and swaddle you for the first time. That is not being born alone unless you were a trash can baby.
They don’t come out the womb with you…they are there after birth…even with twins…one is born at a time they are not both exiting the womb at the same time….
“Born alone, die alone” Ugh. Dont be stupid. I HATE when people say this. People who believe this must believe that they are ALWAYS alone. Throughout their entire lives. And that just breeds depression. And then even poor depression has to be born alone. Jeez! I guess it just depends on how you define alone. When you say that, you must be defining alone as no-one-can-crawl-inside-your-brain-and-be-you. But I can feel comfort and connection with a person when I go on a roller coaster with them, when we see a movie together, when we make sweaty passionate love. Do we scream at the sames spots on the ride? Maybe. Do we both like/hate the movie? Could go either way. Do we have the same orgasms? Well if we dont, they still were awesome. The point is, we shared an experience….when Im nearing the end I want to be able to look into someones eyes. I want to be able to reach out and touch her, feel her realness. I want to be able to steal a kiss as our clocks tick down….I do not call that alone. You can. But thats what I want. They dont even have to go with me. I just want them there.
Well it is the truth….you do not come into the world with someone and you do not leave with anybody….you can be together with someone but the experiences of death are separate and independent and you will not experience them together at all….I’m sorry reality does not fit your paradigm ….contrary to your view you don’t experience sex with the person you are having sex with either…..a penis going inside a vagina is quite a different experience than a vagina receiving a penis….while you may be having sex with each other that does not mean you are experiencing the exact same thing in the same way…
Pain…..thats what I was saying. By your definition we are always alone. Did you read that part? No one ever has the exact same experience..Then..later in my post..I go onto say that I dont care if that is alone by your definition. That I want someone there. Im not interested in a silly pointless fight over the semantics of a word. Thats just verbal masturbation. Surely you can find a better form of that, yes? 😉 I mean dude, I even used examples showing I understand that experiences are different. Why did you feel the need to tell me what you should know that I know? Do you want to play that comedy game I-know-you-know-that-I-know-that-you-know lol. Oh and P.S., slick. The sex that I do doesnt involve penises. 😉
Thank you Mask! We shared an experience. We saw the same movie. We rode the same ride. We both got our fun parts rubbed. Shared an experience. Did we perceive exactly the same way? Ie. Did we have the same orgasm. Nope.
@painNlife – so you’ve died before and know as a fact that you don’t go through the experiance together? I actually agree with you but it’s hard to make it sound like chiseled in stone fact with nothing to back it up.
And yes we do come into the world with someone, umbilcal cord and all. Physically for sure, mentally it’s pre-verbage so no one can truly “say”.
I always thought that if the world were to end, that I’d like to be in the arms of somebody special when it happened. (Like the movie Seeking a Friend for the End of the World.)
Lol calm your tits I was simply reinforcing my opinion about “alone” and “together” no need to get your panties in a bunch….I’m not saying you can’t have anybody there as you die (emphasis on “as” to indicate that they are witness to the death not a part of it) but don’t get it twisted by thinking they die *with* you because even if they are dying alongside you….you are both still dying alone…like thats not my opinion thats reality….when you experience your death there will be no one with you experiencing your death….
@Don’twanttofeel: Ummm no you come in this world alone….last time I checked the umbilical cord was attached to a person that was already born….so they can’t be born with you since they are already here…..
@don’twanttofeel: Lets just say I have a hunch that you die alone….seeing as how I’ve never witnessed, heard, or read about anybody having shared a death….when you die….YOU die….not your buddy….not your father….not anybody else can die your death with you…..think of it like eating food….we can eat together….but I can’t eat your food for you…..otherwise I’m not eating for you I’m eating for me….
You ARE playing I-know-you-know! I did not use dying with. I explained it several times. But you already made it clear you are a champion reader. Especially with such eloquent word choice. You are hammering home a point no one is arguing against. You were THAT kid in school werent you? The kid who kept telling everyone its “calli-flower” NOT white broccoli even though all kindergardeners agreed as soon as we saw the evil albino vegetable, we didnt care what its called, its going in the trash.
Actually I was the kid claiming power rangers were real and that everyone who didn’t believe in them were crazy I gave no fucks about whatever it is you’re talking about…..nice sentiment though….it was very imaginative….I think you should be a rocket scientist coming up with things like that all on your own 😉
I’m not “hammering” anything home I just want to be clear that nothing I said is misinterpreted or misconstrued because obviously everyone hear can understand simple 5th grade vocabulary….all I’m saying is the original question was flawed because you were asking it as if you can actually die with someone….but I think you understand now….I think
*Sigh* Yes, I understand. I did several posts ago, Pain. You were very clear. Your words and meaning were not difficult to decipher at all. Like you said, it was so simple it was if a 5th grader wrote it.
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Born alone, die alone. That’s always been my philosophy.
I couldn’t leave with another person. My warped mind will somehow blame me for there death. So yeah, alone would be best.
The greatest existential journey of death…I think it can truly only be taken alone. Another person may be physically there but they won’t experience exactly what you experience. Ultimately, alone.
no question…. alone……
I’ve been alone most of my life. And I feel so incredibly alone now. And I’m scared. I really want my last moments to be with someone, you know? Shouldnt I have what I want? At least at the end.
I would like to go with someone, i was thinking of taking kids with me but its unfair. my bf is not suicidal, my sis was suicidal & we made lesibianism together. but she killed herself & didnt wait.
I might go in May or June. would u like to go together?
taking kids with you…….
now thats wrong, sorry.
kill yourself if you feel you must,,,,
but kids???? comon, really.
You just never know if there will be some justice when you get to that other side…. you will likely have to pay severely for murder of kids….
just saying.
after all….. we really dont know how it works there.
i just have mom here now, 88, health declining….. wife left me (if you dont know that).
I have a big house, the day will come when I am the only one here.
Coming home to a dark house…… alone…..
thats why I have my plan 🙂
My divorcee mother was always broken & suicidal, weeping long night in her locked room. I was 5 y o when suddenly came out of room, full nacked with a big sharp knife, & stabbed her 5 month pregnant belly at least 7 time as i remember the scene, & fell dead. thanks to that my sis & i lived abused & suicidal.
I dont like the same for my kids, any suggestion???
With someone has it’s pros and cons. It would have to be with someone I really cared about and I knew cared about me. No uncertainties, no asking them to do me in, that would just be selfish. I would not end it for them either. That leaves a limited amount of exit methods. I wouldn’t mind holding their hand. :'(
God loves you. I love you. You’re not alone. 🙂 Jesus knows the world is messed up, that’s why he died for us personally to save us from our messed-upness. Read your Bible…
Joel
with someone.. at least in death i won’t be lonely.
I don’t think it is possible to die with someone….you my die along side them at the same time but you can’t die with them….like you don’t experience it *with* them….your death is still solely your death….now maybe it is comforting to some to have someone die along side you but personally I’d rather go it alone….like the first comment says….”born alone die alone”
But you aren’t born alone, you usually have multiple people attending to you, a mother or fathers arms to be held in, their eyes looking into yours with wonder. Professionals to remove excess mucus and swaddle you for the first time. That is not being born alone unless you were a trash can baby.
They don’t come out the womb with you…they are there after birth…even with twins…one is born at a time they are not both exiting the womb at the same time….
I wouldn’t mind someone to hold my hand at the end. But i probably won’t have that.
“Born alone, die alone” Ugh. Dont be stupid. I HATE when people say this. People who believe this must believe that they are ALWAYS alone. Throughout their entire lives. And that just breeds depression. And then even poor depression has to be born alone. Jeez! I guess it just depends on how you define alone. When you say that, you must be defining alone as no-one-can-crawl-inside-your-brain-and-be-you. But I can feel comfort and connection with a person when I go on a roller coaster with them, when we see a movie together, when we make sweaty passionate love. Do we scream at the sames spots on the ride? Maybe. Do we both like/hate the movie? Could go either way. Do we have the same orgasms? Well if we dont, they still were awesome. The point is, we shared an experience….when Im nearing the end I want to be able to look into someones eyes. I want to be able to reach out and touch her, feel her realness. I want to be able to steal a kiss as our clocks tick down….I do not call that alone. You can. But thats what I want. They dont even have to go with me. I just want them there.
Well it is the truth….you do not come into the world with someone and you do not leave with anybody….you can be together with someone but the experiences of death are separate and independent and you will not experience them together at all….I’m sorry reality does not fit your paradigm ….contrary to your view you don’t experience sex with the person you are having sex with either…..a penis going inside a vagina is quite a different experience than a vagina receiving a penis….while you may be having sex with each other that does not mean you are experiencing the exact same thing in the same way…
Pain…..thats what I was saying. By your definition we are always alone. Did you read that part? No one ever has the exact same experience..Then..later in my post..I go onto say that I dont care if that is alone by your definition. That I want someone there. Im not interested in a silly pointless fight over the semantics of a word. Thats just verbal masturbation. Surely you can find a better form of that, yes? 😉 I mean dude, I even used examples showing I understand that experiences are different. Why did you feel the need to tell me what you should know that I know? Do you want to play that comedy game I-know-you-know-that-I-know-that-you-know lol. Oh and P.S., slick. The sex that I do doesnt involve penises. 😉
“while you may be having sex with each other that does not mean you are experiencing the exact same thing in the same way…”
“Do we have the same orgasms? Well if we dont, they still were awesome. The point is, we shared an experience…”
Thank you Mask! We shared an experience. We saw the same movie. We rode the same ride. We both got our fun parts rubbed. Shared an experience. Did we perceive exactly the same way? Ie. Did we have the same orgasm. Nope.
@painNlife – so you’ve died before and know as a fact that you don’t go through the experiance together? I actually agree with you but it’s hard to make it sound like chiseled in stone fact with nothing to back it up.
And yes we do come into the world with someone, umbilcal cord and all. Physically for sure, mentally it’s pre-verbage so no one can truly “say”.
I always thought that if the world were to end, that I’d like to be in the arms of somebody special when it happened. (Like the movie Seeking a Friend for the End of the World.)
Suicide party. Ive said it before. I may just keep saying it until I get one dammit!
Lol calm your tits I was simply reinforcing my opinion about “alone” and “together” no need to get your panties in a bunch….I’m not saying you can’t have anybody there as you die (emphasis on “as” to indicate that they are witness to the death not a part of it) but don’t get it twisted by thinking they die *with* you because even if they are dying alongside you….you are both still dying alone…like thats not my opinion thats reality….when you experience your death there will be no one with you experiencing your death….
@Don’twanttofeel: Ummm no you come in this world alone….last time I checked the umbilical cord was attached to a person that was already born….so they can’t be born with you since they are already here…..
@don’twanttofeel: Lets just say I have a hunch that you die alone….seeing as how I’ve never witnessed, heard, or read about anybody having shared a death….when you die….YOU die….not your buddy….not your father….not anybody else can die your death with you…..think of it like eating food….we can eat together….but I can’t eat your food for you…..otherwise I’m not eating for you I’m eating for me….
You ARE playing I-know-you-know! I did not use dying with. I explained it several times. But you already made it clear you are a champion reader. Especially with such eloquent word choice. You are hammering home a point no one is arguing against. You were THAT kid in school werent you? The kid who kept telling everyone its “calli-flower” NOT white broccoli even though all kindergardeners agreed as soon as we saw the evil albino vegetable, we didnt care what its called, its going in the trash.
Actually I was the kid claiming power rangers were real and that everyone who didn’t believe in them were crazy I gave no fucks about whatever it is you’re talking about…..nice sentiment though….it was very imaginative….I think you should be a rocket scientist coming up with things like that all on your own 😉
I’m not “hammering” anything home I just want to be clear that nothing I said is misinterpreted or misconstrued because obviously everyone hear can understand simple 5th grade vocabulary….all I’m saying is the original question was flawed because you were asking it as if you can actually die with someone….but I think you understand now….I think
*Sigh* Yes, I understand. I did several posts ago, Pain. You were very clear. Your words and meaning were not difficult to decipher at all. Like you said, it was so simple it was if a 5th grader wrote it.
I know… all the babble about other stuff just confused me….but okay we’re on the same page finally