Married but completely alone. Â I have nothing. I am so far away from my family and best friends. It’s hard to just end it when you have a kid, but I have thought about running away. No matter what I choose that would bring an end to my pain, people are going to view me as “selfish”. I hate these stupid societal rules about monogamy. If a marriage has gone down the shitter, and one party won’t even try then what is the point? Divorce is not so easy…I’m a fast learner but I have not worked in years. Who will hire me? Can I start over? Is it better to stay here and be financially golden but miserable? Or…would I be better off on the streets living under a bridge? My husband cannot care for our daughter in any competent fashion. All he does is sleep. He never spends time with her or reads to her. He does not even know her birthday! When his head was hit, he lost so much of his personality. It’s like being married to a one dimensional lump. His job keeps him on because their negligence caused his injury, but they know he’s mentally blank too. I do ALL of his reports, and they know this. I got the most blistering reply yesterday from some one…won’t name names. I get it though. I do not matter. I am supposed to just be miserable as fuck…why? because I am a woman, right? Fuck that. I swear I am fucking the first decent man I get my hot little paws on. It’s been too long. Fuck the world. Yes I am the evil, selfish ***** of myth and legend because I have endured 7 faithful years of this torment.
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werent you here posting that other half of your rant?
I mean, WTF? You want sympathy from us or something?
Your husband was hurt, now you want to finish him off mentally by going out and being a whore like my wife did?
Are you my wife? Maybe you are, coz you sound a LOT like her, except for the daughter part (coz I didnt give her a kid for that same reason, her laziness as well as crappy personality).
Women like you are pathetic,,,, really pathetic.
If they were all like this, I would marry a fuckin dog, at least they are loyal.
WIG get a fucking grip guy. No one owes you or my husband ANYTHING. Do you get that? I don’t want your sympathy guy. I don’t want anyone’s sympathy, really. I just want to vent. Now, you keep coming to my posts like a moth to a flame. I am NOT your fucking wife, alright? Those are your problems, these are mine. Have you forgotten the nature of this site? It’s not just for you, otherwise, it would be called “WIG’s suicide blog where only WIG talks about his problems to the world” ok? I really can give a shit what you think about me. Continue. I have nothing else to do for the next 30 minutes. I am sure I can give you cyberhell since you want to keep fucking with me you obnoxious little fuckwit. Bring it. I have enough bitterness to keep an entire lemon orchard in business.
Damn right. Call me whore. I deserve some good sex with a man that has an able body. Of course, I will never trust a man again, so he is free to gtfo as soon as he ejaculates. Is that so bad?
Your husband ought to be glad to get rid of you. If I were him, Id throw your ass out of the house and get a real woman for a wife.
All your posts do is scream “Im a selfish whore who is willing to abandon my husband”.
Enjoy!!!!
Sad part is you said “you had a good life”, and now that he is hurt, you want to leave him.
I dont have to call you anything, your words speak a lot about the filth you are.
Wives who abandon their husbands are the worst pieces of crap to walk the planet.
Sad part is Im sure he still loves you.
I hope you die slowly, WIG. That’s what you want, right? I hope you walk into a place and catch her screwing some man’s brains plum out. You deserve it! LOL, no female will want this excuse for a man. Is she going to do his reports, classwork and everything in this house that needs doing? LOL, sure, sure. Next you will tell me that his old, decrepit ass will attract someone “better looking than” me when you have never even seen me, because my, that’s the ultimate female insult, innit? Dickless wonder you are, you and my husband should get together and give each other a reach around. No wonder your wife bailed. You are just like my husband, only you appear to have a few more functioning brain cells. Don’t let that go to your head, though. My husband has problems with simple elementary math.
I still love him too. Why the fuck does your simple ass think I have not left? Why the fuck do you think I help him with his work? Why the fuck do you think I haven’t lowered my standards and took up some of the offers for dick from his co-workers? Love only goes so far. I’ll be the first to admit I am not superwoman.
No, actually my wife left me coz she was a whore. I treated her very well and didn’t make her do everything. I had a good job, even gave her one working for me on top of her own job. She had everything she wanted and more. I distanced myself fro,m her because she treated everyone like shit, me, her friends (who she lost), and more.
She bailed because she wanted to have 2 dicks in her at the same time, and I said no. Thats a rebellious woman, just like you are.
I feel bad for your husband. He sounds like he was a nice guy to you, now your selfish motives have taken over. You are the cheating kind. Pathetic, you say he cant even do math, and yet you treat him like a piece of meat.
Why dont you divorce him and give him the benefit of finding a caring wife some day?
Yeah, because I want some stupid porn shit like your wife, and gosh, EVERYONE knows that all women are the same…fucking idiot. Get a grip! I have dealt with this for nearly 8 years! I am still young! I am not an old woman! I am barely in my 30’s..YES I want sex. So fucking what? If I were a man bitching about my wife, you would not have said shit to me and those are the facts. You are projecting and you need to take a step back. You don’t know what I have been through. I don’t know what you have been through. I don’t want to be like you. I meant that. But, I ain’t a punk either. Fine, so be it. I suppose making fun of your simple ass will be my therapy for today. I know I look good and can find any man I want if I put myself out there. Lucky for my husband I am a hermit that would rather teach myself languages and abstract maths concepts (when I am not doing his coursework or QR reports).
Yeah, feel bad for him wig, because he is you and I am her. Is that how your simple brain operates? Nearly 8 billion people on Earth, and yet, one scenario that vaguely mirrors your own and OFF you go, because no one else is allowed to have problems but you and you have to be a narcissistic prick that must inject yourself into everything. No wonder she left. I bet those two dicks were better than anything you ever gave her. I hope she enjoyed them…but that’s not for me. One will do.
All I have to do is read what you write, and I see what kind of “woman” you are.
Go change your pad, maybe you will feel better 🙂
This disgrace stops now. You both have both of my pity. WIG: I get your pain. 212121: I’m sorry you feel that way. The world goes round by our decisions whether they be good decisions or not, and then we deal with them. 212121, I get not wanting to be the “good” person anymore. What the hell has is ever givin you right? and WIG: I’ve been betrayed and I will NEVER get over it. Trust me when I say I know your anger.
212121, whatever you decide in the future just remember your child comes first and WIG if 212121 decides to do something stupid then let her go down that path.
… Now bring on the hate or let me be not worth your time.
WIG…
And the world sees what kind of “male specimen” you are. A piece of shit that thinks the world owes you love and faithfulness because you have a dick. LOL, did your shitty little religion teach you that?
I dont give a crap what this “woman” does. Its pathetic to see a wife go out and say she wants to do another guy coz she no longer feels she should care for her husband.
212221, or whatever the hell your number is…. you should give your husband the ability to find a loving and caring wife who won’t leave him in his time of need, and just as you said,,,, go out and “be happy” with those other “dicks”.
The world owes me nothing.
A wife owes her husband a commitment for life, good or bad, except in cases of willing abuse and adultery.
Go ahead, cheat on your husband,,,,,,,,, its what you are.
Go and “be happy”.
WIG…
No way. You don’t know what this asshole has put me through and I am not going to discuss it publicly because it’s painful for me. Your prerogative to keep thinking he is some “angel” because he has a dick. I totally get that you christian fucks hate women..I GET it okay, WIG??? However, this fool has put his hands on me before…blamed it on his medicine. Yeah…
Uh… Ye do realise this is ment to be a place of support and careing, where people can come and get help and understanding, mabye even compassion… This type of arguing is detrimental to that goal. Its shit like this that causes members to leave because they can’t stand this type of shit clogging up the comments and also deters new members. So why don’t ye act like adults. @wifeisgone. Leave the posters alone if all ur going to do is rip them down, that’s helping no one. @2121 i cannot say i cam empathize, seeing as in not in ur situation, but life is too short to be miserable. Humans are selfish, that is our nature. U think he would be any different?
The times I have tried to leave he starts to cry and claims that he will kill himself. Emotional extortion. Do you expect me to respect this sniveling lump of fat? There is some modicum of ‘love’ there, but what’s love got to do with it? I do what i must to survive and WIG as a human I hope you do too…but I am not going to tolerate your shit on my rant without a challenge. You need to head back to bible study with this shit, because I am not the one, bro.
And what does a husband owe his wife, WIG? Go on fuckstick…I’m listening. I see you conveniently left that part out.
Fact remains……
you are his wife….
you have a daughter….
he is sick… (physically/mentally).
you married for life.
You want to exit because it no longer suits YOUR purpose.
Unless he is willingly abusing you, you have NO basis for leaving him.
You talk about wanting to disgrace him even more buy finding another man.
You have a pretty filthy mouth.
I was fine until your resident asshole rolled out the red carpet for me. I’m sorry, my fangs are bared and my claws are unsheathed. I hate people like WIG. It’s like kicking a half dead dog. Why? Well, this dog is a ***** that is also half wolf. You kick me, I snap back. Simple as.
….what man in this world wouldnt want you? lol
i have to admit,,,,,, you are what every guy could ever want in a woman lol
WIG,
Answer the goddamned question you moron. WHAT DOES A HUSBAND OWE HIS WIFE, WIG??
Did you miss the part where I told you he has put his hands on me before??
Give a fuck what you think about my “mouth” or typing. Go away then, genius.
A husband owes his wife love, affection, support, faithfulness, to the best of his ability to do so.
Your husband doesnt sound like he can even though Im sure he would want to.
You now face some serious challenges with him and want to bail out because all you think is about yourself, how much it inconveniences you.
WIG,
I bet women look at your simple ass and think the same thing…”What woman in her right mind would put up with this useless thing?” Looks like your wife found plenty of action, how’s your sex life? Got 18 year olds lined up around the block for those 2 inches of fail, I’m sure. Bwa ha ha ha aha.
its the same “thinking” a lot of women do now…. the “life is short, I wana be happy, screw my husband if he can’t do that much”.
If he was a healthy guy I could understand your position more, but he is ill, and yet you STILL treat him like this.
212121
If you want to divorce him,then divorce him.”love” shouldn’t be pain in the ass for you as you discribe it.so… It is ok to let him go.and i 100% assure you that you won’t be the first to do that.now go and divorce him before you got some wrinkles.and as of your husband…,he will be fine without “you”.he make a mistake marrying a girl like you.but i think he will be fine.you really are a good girl for taking care of him for almost 8 years.you are a brave women.i admire your courage.remember;you mary that hot,healthy,wanted,hard-working guy.and when he is not what he is not anymore,you have the right to let him go.that is why divorces are created anyways,aren’t they ? So that a girl can leave a guy when he stop working like a robot for her ? He will feed her,he will feed all her kids,put a roof over their head.bla…bla and when he loose that, he will be a trash.and then the girl will start searching for another guy.it is common…you know!.you are not the first for this kind story,and you won’t be the last.
I respect women (when I see them).
You dont qualify.
I see you just as my wife, a selfish “thang”, only caring about herself.
You dont honor your marriage.
You also want to go out and get another guy, just for some sex.
You know what you are. 😉
Nope I won’t be the last joinel and wig. I damn sure won’t. I will have my cake and eat it too…just like he did. Believe that.
WIG,
Aw, are you mad because no cute girl wants to screw your wretched ass and all you have is your hand and some cheap dollar store lotion while your wife has real flesh and blood dicks? Aw. I’m so glad your wife found those two dicks. I hope she sent you a video. You truly deserve everything she did to you. I have 0 sympathy for a piece of cat shit like you.
Your husband got screwed over in the head and is a vegetable now? (sorry, im going on what you’re posting this ‘half’)
If he’s no use, I’d divorce him too if i were in your shoes; I see little difference between dating and marriages, if you get in a bad relationship, leave, if you get into a bad marriage, leave.
Get fixed, and go out and have sex =x I don’t know why you decided to have a kid, but if that reason no longer exists then you’re the last person who can claim the responsibility of raising it…
If you really cant raise your kid then surrender it to a clinic or whatever ><''
Its not a terrible lot to ask to raise your kid to look after themselves after you concieve one, its just a matter of how you do it.
Actually, maybe one day I’ll send her a video, lol
By the way, the soap I use is sold at Publix. 😉
By the way,,,,,
karma catches up ya know…….
Leave him, go after a “man”, and Im sure after a while, you will be in an even worse position.
Once that guy gets over the sex with you (not that it would be that great), he will see who you really are. A smart guy will wonder if you would do the same to him should he get injured 😉
WIG,
You fucking moron, if he was still HEALTHY and not mentally clocked out, I would not even be here. This would be a non issue. He would have never put his hands on me in a sane state, because he would have never been on those medications that altered his brain function. We would still be happy together if he was still the man I married. Don’t you get it you ingrate??? I DO NOT KNOW WHO THIS MAN IS ANYMORE.
He didnt make the choice to be like that.
As you said, it was an accident.
And somewhere in him still resides the thoughts of you as he knew you.
And you want to throw him away.
In sickness and health.
He is sick.
Now he is trash to you.
Again, you are selfish and quite evil.
@Procel “Leave the posters alone if all ur going to do is rip them down, that’s helping no one.”
I already told WIG this last night in a previous post: If you don’t like what the OP has to say, please keep silent and move on…really simple rule to follow for this kind of site.
I imagine when others see these kinds of hateful comments, they can judge for themselves that the specific people making them are not worth engaging in the future, and hopefully not see the comments as an indictment of SP in general.
Oh wig,
Now you’re projecting your sexual inadequacies onto me. How adorable. See little sloppy *****, I don’t need the man to be “with”, I just want some hot steamy sex. Truth hurts huh? I laugh at your situation and pathetic posts. Ha ha, your wife left you for some random dick and you were not even in a situation as insane as mine. No wonder you are so mad. I’d be mad too if the relationship was otherwise “ok” and my partner skipped out to find some strange. Ever consider that you just suck as a human being? Maybe your jeezus can help you out with that. Oh…wait
Why did I even come here.
Soldiers go to war…… they lose limbs, sometimes both legs, arms, or become disabled in anothr way…….
Their wives (the good ones) dont leave them, even if it means taking care of them for the rest of their life.
Do you understand what YOU are now???????
WIG, you really were just picking a fight, since the first post you made on this page…
And it’s not the first time from what I remember, although I’m sure you’ll correct me if I’m “wrong”.
Please take out your frustration on people who can actually cope with it, rather than stooping so low as to pick fights with people on this site…
I really hope you get hit by a bi-state bus WIG. Then I hope two vultures have a mid-air battle over your shitty entrails, and they too, die a gruesome death.
abandonment really sets me off
Do you understand what you are WIG? A simple, pathetic limp little man. Go fuck yourself with an elephant.
we dont have bi state buses here, but ill petition for them
No one gives a fuck about you, WIG. That’s why you are always on here. I see your posts go quite a ways back and this is nothing new for you. I don’t feel so sullen anymore. At least I know, no matter how “pathetic” I am, I will never attain your position. At least I have a kid and family/friends that love me. What do you have? I bet a dog would not even want to be in your presence.
id rather be wifeless than be married to someone like you;)
God, WIG you’re a moron, grow up, will you? You have the maturity of an angry 7th grader and clearly an inferior critical thinking ability and reasoning than one too. You’re so pathetic, it’s beyond tragic
No worries, I’m sure the only ass you will find in the future is the ass you pay hourly for. Ha ha ha! 🙂
And your wife probably took most of your funds, so be careful with those cheap hookers. Strap up, bro.
I wish i could take either of you seriously, but I cant anymore :c
best of luck to the both of you.
It’s all good. It’s surreal to me too. I came here for maybe some commiseration and exchange of miseries in a polite fashion, and lo and behold…I run into dickless wonder of the seven universes with an axe to grind. I’m thrown off my axis too…in a good way. I don’t mind going off. It’s therapeutic. I’d never do this irl.
Go ahead….. you said it yourself…… its what you want……..
take your daughter and haul…… find another man to screw…… leve your husband with no care, love. After all, he can’t really conceive of you gone and have the ability to suffer mentally from it.
What are you waiting for?
The world is out there for you!!! Go for it!!!! Who needs a husband who they have to care for?
Hey baby, how YOU doin’?
Eh, don’t mind the nonsexual lunatic. Hint: das me! 😮
So how long has it been WIG? Maybe you can score with some senior citizen chicks. Don’t give up hope you bitter bastard.
Get out there and be happy!!!!!
Who the hell cares if it is at the expense of someone else?
i never saw anyone not having a tinge of guilt for being selfish or not justifying it with reason. hmmm
@212121 It might be a bad time but I’m curious. Does your username have any significance?
Wow, even on a suicide site women have to be shamed, even after remaining for 8 YEARS with a useless man. Thanks quaero…be sure to fist bump WIG on your way out. Yet, if you were in my shoes, no doubt you both would have been fucking hoes AGES ago. *middle finger high*
Yes it does.
She has no justification.. not only is she willing to ruin her husbands life even more, but her daughter as well (leaving her with no dad).
God, who can’t resist a woman like this…….. lol
Women arent shamed, those like you are.
And noone is shaming you anyway…..
You running that mouth of yours is doing a fine job of that, truly.
I thought so. Everyones does and I hope we get to find out.
Fact is, I greatly respect women.
Then, there are those like you…..
WIG,
How’s that abject loneliness with no sex going? Do you stalk your wife in your spare time….you know, when you are NOT on SP trying to further wound the already wounded?
You don’t respect shit, WIG. Not even yourself. I’m venting mostly, but I truly believe you are for real. A true piece of work you are. I’m betting you deserved her leaving AND the video of the three way.
Well, I spend a lot of time talking to respectable people on here, but then there is you.
I have no respect for someone who posts what you did, what you stand for, how you want to throw away your husband because he is injured.
it was a philosophical observation, not condemning.
however, as you got angry for being called selfish my observation is proven wrong.
venting…….
and i can smell it.
lol 🙂
You keep speaking to me as if we know each other wig, and your opinion of my character means something. Look here *****…I don’t care if you like me, hate me, live or die. I shall mock you until I tire of it, because you are a piece of shit. Women don’t leave good men. And look, *gasp* even a non-sexual, mentally incompetent man like my husband has a faithful woman that looks decent! I have only expressed the hunger inside of me. But you have expressed your actual situation. It’s clear that it is real based on your vehemence. I have yet to cheat, and probably never will…but your wife had those two dicks. LOL, I guess I see why you’re so mad. Look on the bright side, you can always buy a fleshlight…or dig a hole in the dirt and line it with saran wrap and fill it with grape jelly. Loser! 🙂
Um, your looks,,,,,, you keep mentioning them……. even if I assumed you were pretty,…
And for the record, I dont like you. You come here posting how sad you are to have to take care of your husband.
That “hunger inside you” will eventually lead you to act.
He should divorce you, really. Either that or commit suicide, just to get away from you.
Loser :*
Jeeze, is it just me, or does it seem ridiculous to see this sort of exchange on a suicide website? o.O
Not just you. I have been thinking the same thing. This conversation reminds me of a train wreck. I know I should turn away from it but I can’t seem to
I’m making the point that I’m down but I am not out, WIG…you know, like you? I have not, and will not allow this set of circumstances to ruin me. I know I deserve more than what I have, and I have not let this toil wear me to the bone gristle. What shall I do with all my exuberance and sexual energy? Go on and humor me, WIG. Give me some of that good old churchy advice.
They’ll warm to each other eventually. It’s called the suicide project paradox or something. Two strangers, opposites each holding the missing piece to the others heart are reconciled on a suicide site. Call it fate, destiny or what you will even call me a hopeless romantic.
Whats pathetic is seeing yet another women want to abandon her spouse for selfish reasons, and even have the gall to openly say she wants to screw another guy while her husband is sick at home.
Pure whore.
Pure filth
Pure evil.
WIG,
LOL *****, I don’t like you. And? At least men look at me. Do females even pay you one bit of attention? Yes, I enjoy attention from men. That does not make me a succubus. But I wish I was one, because I’d suck your soul this very moment and spit it into the bowels of your hell.
Marriage isnt only about sex.
Try some counseling, what wives of injured vets do.
Kinda hard to get f____ when your hubby cant move much, but there are plenty of injured vets out there who dont have a wife who leaves them coz they cant screw.
My wife wasnt the prettiest thing, I loved her for her as a person, I just lived a lie. She was just as ugly inside as out.
People get old and lose interest in sex anyway (seniors), yet their marriage is built on sincere love.
Do you know what that is even?
yes, females pay me attention. I normally treat them very well and with respect.
I dont respect a woman who abandons their husband.
What’s pathetic is seeing yet another piece of shit male that thinks the world owes him youth and beauty to ruin for his own selfish reasons, and even have the gall to be mad when his actions (or inaction) pushes the woman away from him emotionally or physically while he has done NOTHING to help repair the marriage.
Pure bastard.
Pure ass.
Pure shitstain on a crackwhore’s mattress.
WIG,
Yeah right. Looks like you spend an average of 12.7 hours a day up here. Female dogs sniffing your crotch do not count, wig. We are talking HUMAN females.
what if the woman is evil and pushes the man away?
does the man owe the woman the world if she is a *****?
Should she be mad when she caused it herself?
Maybe SHE does nothing to repair the marriage because SHE is too selfish.
😉
I don’t respect men who don’t respect women. Conversely, I don’t respect women who don’t respect men. But MOST IMPORTANTLY, I don’t respect ANYONE who doesn’t respect Dr. Seuss.
and doesn’t/cant see that SHE is the root of the problem.
Actually, I think it’s rather strange the way social dynamics play out. Nobody is ever the root of the problem, but if they exacerbate a problem and draw it out to obscene lengths, they can be said to be factors in the magnification of a problem. Such as the comments on this thread clearly demonstrate.
WIG,
Uh…what do injured vets have to do with my situation? You keep trying to paint this landscape that is not mine. So, I will keep pressing your buttons until I am well amused and satisfied. Dance, fool. Dance!
@2121; Nelson Mandela stayed married to the same woman for all those years he was in prison. He got a divorce within six months or so of being released. People change over time. This notion of “till death do us part” is unnatural; it’s a concept imposed on society by religious fundamentalist zealots. Do whatever you think is best for you and your daughter.
Also: there are a lot of bitter people who have their own issues to contend with and shouldn’t be taken too seriously. Just because someone has an opinion and can share it doesn’t mean its worthy of consideration. Good Luck.
evidently you are blind….
you want to screw another guy coz your ill hubby can’t do it.
A wounded vet with no limbs, same thing.
Only difference is,,, you want to abandon your hubby.
A respectable and loving wife won’t.
Comprende *****? 🙂
@duke
you should pitch the idea to hollywood — we already have a good part of the script written for us
@lorax
your dr seuss remark — pure genius (and your subsequent comment, excellent as well)
“marriage is not just about sex…”
Riiiiiiiiiight. Then we go to christian marriage advice sites, where the man’s need for sex is presented as a very serious thing, and the woman should comply even if she is unwilling or even unable due to trauma or whatever. You have no respect for women. You are the typical christian male douchebag that thinks double standards ALWAYS apply in relationships. Did I mention I have not stopped laughing at your set of circumstances? Makes light of my own. At least I have a decent life filled with learning, opportunities, and friends even though my marriage sucks and I can’t have sex with my husband. But that’s ok…I have some awesome dildos.
WIG,
At least I am not YOUR *****. Life could always be worse, I see now. 🙂
I hope you have a shitty day.
Also, I think it’s unfair to generalize non-sexuals (or asexuals) as somehow bad just because they dislike sex. Sex is gross. This is an objective fact. Because I said it. Therefore, all you sexual folks are weird.
C4…
Thank you for one of the only thoughtful and kind replies I have gotten here. It is appreciated.
Who said I wouldn’t tolerate a woman who couldnt have sex for whataver reason?
A real woman is worth more than just that thing between her legs.
But I’ll never abandon my wife if she gets injured or needs care.
I live by a different standard than you do. 😉
@ coquito I’ll have to change the names slightly for legal reason but I think it’s a winner. Good solid plot that has a twist. I like it.
You don’t live by any standard. You appear to be a bot that resides in the ether, looking at the timestamps of your plentiful posts here. :L
@lorax
i’ve become a big fan….even if i weren’t suicidally depressed, i would become so just to be able to come to sp and read your comments
Im sorry 212121,,
But I dont want yo as a mate.
I know that dissapoints you, but its how it is 🙂
@coquito: it’s good to know people appreciate my absurd commentary. 😀
WIG,
I’d leap into a vat of 100% HCl before I let something like you touch me.
Here is the vat. 😉
But maybe you want to save it for your husband, given he has already threatened to kill himself if you leave him
if I had a wife like you, I’d threaten to end it all if you didnt leave.
@WIG: If that’s so, it’s awfully ironic for you to continue posting on her thread. Doors swing both ways, after all.
@212121; Love; Allowing another person to make their own choices, even if that choice is to end a relationship.
I’ve never understood this sense of ownership people often feel they have over their mate. If two people are married and each one changes over time, why would one person insist that the other stay if doing so make him/her miserable? That seems incredibly selfish. If you love your mate you’ll want him/her to be happy with or without you.
It sounds like you’ve got some tough choices ahead. Best wishes.
Caring for a sick spouse? blah, who needs that commitment…..
After all, its not what love is about.
If he/she needs you, who the hell cares…..
Just throw her/him aside in favor of your own pleasure….
Thats TRUE LOVE.
😉
Love is reciprocal. If he’s not reciprocating, clearly the dynamic is broken and needs changing up. If this woman’s husband needed her, he would make that known rather than making her feel how she clearly feels to be posting something like this thread.
Well there we are.
I don’t think it’s that that WIG finds objectionable. He feels that separation should be done in the proper way. If you’re unhappy in the marriage for reasons that are unlikely to change then whilst acknowledging it’s unfortunate, it’s best to resolve the issue as amicably as possible without prolonging the suffering of either person.
@212121 a novel idea (coming from someone who’s on sp mainly because his wife has left him):
if sex (actually lack of it) is the main problem, is it possible to have your husband agree with you sleeping with other guys, but maintaining an affectionate relationship (and marriage) with him?
if i were him, i would want you to be sexually happy
it would be a small price to pay to be able to keep the relationship together
It doesnt sound like he is much more than a vegetable.
How is he going to make it known?
Does he even have to?
She is the “sane” one out of the 2.
She just “wants out” because she sees him as a burden in her life.
A filthy excuse for a wife, really.
When my wife was sick, I took care of her and didnt complain.
I didnt threaten to go out and screw another woman.
I didnt go on some website (like this one) and scream about how my life was burdened).
This piece of filth that posted here is a work of art….. what every man should avoid.
Cox come that day if HE needed her, thats what he will get, abandonment.
Once you screw another, the bond with the original spouse is broken. No lasting meaningful relationship can be had under that circumstance.
Did I mention he crashed my car on purpose (totaled it) because I told him I was going to drive to DE to see about my sick mother? LOL. Wow. You know, you just can’t make this shit up.
Shit, if I was married to a guy who acted like a vegetable without actually being in a vegetative state, I’d leave his ass too. But only after asking how the hell I got married to a guy. That would be a little weird.
he’ clearly not a vegetable since he’s driving cars…unless google has some weird experiments that we don’t know about
‘in sickness and in health, until death do you part’ isn’t practicable. People get divorced all the time for various reasons. The heart grows forgetful. Marriage is a contract like any other and sometimes we enter into them naively.
Most people that comment have some sort of bias through experience.
assuming this did happen,,,,, you said yourself he was on meds and it had other effects on you (physical abuse).
a head injury can change a person.
and by the way………….
my dad had alzheimers, so just like your hubby,,,,, my mom (and I) both saw him change into something he wasnt….. but did we abandon him? NO.
How hard was life? It was hard enough to give mom a heart attack.
She didnt leave him.
I didnt leave him.
He was sick.
You dont love your husband,,,,,,,,,
You have no right to complain on here or to anyone about how you are “frustrated and want out”.
@lorax i don’t just appreciate your absurd commentary — i thrive on it
If she doesn’t love her husband, does that imply, WIG, that you believe she should humor the marriage just for the appearance, and to appease your own values? A loveless marriage sounds shitty, to me. I dunno how people could deal with that reality.
You married him, from your own admission, he treated you well before he got hurt.
Now he is garbage to you.
Throw him out like trash.
Forget what used to be. It doesnt matter.
Leave him to rot while you seek your “happiness and self”.
*****!!!!!
coquito…
I will address your queries, but first…let me clarify some things. My husband is not dumb, he merely acts this way because he enjoys the attention and he is lazy. This is another reason I cannot respect him. He was NEVER this way when I met him. He was a go-getter. He has the type of personality that attracted me (brave, gentle, willing to try even if failure was high probability). Now, he runs from a simple algebra problem and needs his little strong woman to do it for him. His mental challenges are largely his own. He does not attend the rehab scheduled for him, he does not take his depression meds as he should, he does not do what he needs to get better! It’s like he does not care!
Now, to your questions. Yes, I have suggested that we have an open marriage, but he would not bless off on that. HE is the selfish one. He has ED and low T, can’t maintain an erection and I am hungry for sex always. It’s not right. He even has the nerve to get his feathers ruffled when I attend my ‘toys’. Plus, the meds that he does take (the pain ones, of course) cause further issues with drive and function. I think if he said OK to an open relationship, I could deal a lot better with this and be the wife he needs me to be, helping him out with his work without a problem or complaint. He’s not seeing my side without a pity party. All he does is mope and poke his lip out when I tell him I need more than what he is giving. No matter how gently it is, he just mopes and pity parties! I know everyone has days/weeks maybe even months like this off and on…but nearly 8 years!!! This is why I train so hard and push myself. He actually is a motivation to me in some twisted way. Plus, I don’t want my daughter to fall to the wayside and have no one. She needs me way more than he does.
@wig nobody is in a position to judge what is in another person’s heart
there’s a native american saying: may god give me the strength to walk 1000 miles in another person’s shoes (actually they were barefoot people, but i digress), before i judge him
Wig,
This is my last reply to you. It’s simply to inform you that you may exit my throne room, court jester. Your amusing antics have been delightful. Now go get bent.
I read through all this shit you posted here,.,,,,
and shit is it.
open marriage,,,,, hell,,,, no respectable guy would tolerate that. Id get rid of you just on that basis.
Then you list his meds and side effects….. even though you know they cause his sexual issues…. you still dont csre.
No, you dont care about this guy, and just being with you likely makes him more depressed.
In this case, you should leave him as he evidently has a piece of shit for a wife.
Let him be loved by a real woman. You arent it.
I judge abandonment.
Abandonment of a spouse is cruel, especially a sick one.
It just shows the one who abandons is the piece of shit.
Any value judgment either way, I think, misses the overall point that there are two parties involved in the relationship, and both have their share of faults contributing to the conflict. There are generally no innocents in situations like this. It’s like a feedback cycle. If the circumstances are deplorable, and get worse with efforts to address the problem, then clearly the relationship has shaky foundations and needs to be abandoned by both parties before they both get sucked into the murky mire they’re sinking into.
@wig did you read what she said about ‘being the wife that he needs me to be’, if only he would consent to an open relationship?
your comments about her are completely wrong
you owe her a big apology
@wig assuming the description of the situation is as 212121 relates it…then what the fuck are you talking about
a relationship is a 2-way street one’s only obligation is to make a good faith effort to make it work
have you read what she has written….she wants it to work, but she has rights too — not just responsabilities
yes i read that.
It basically says ” I want you to allow me to be a whore and screw another guy’, and “if you do so, I’ll be a good wife to you”.
Pure filth.
At least the guy has some sense in his head…. and some pride.
He has a filthy **** for a wife, just like I did.
Dafuq? If I ever get married, it’ll have to be an open marriage because there’s no way in hell I’ll put up with being required to have sex with anyone. I wouldn’t call that being a whore, but being a human being in a relationship with someone who doesn’t like sex. That’s not anything to get all vitriolic about.
WIG is the issue divorce per se or deception within the marriage?
clarify…….please
lorax, whats your age?
28 human years, probably like 379 in dog years.
28….
are you a virgin? you are a guy, right? are you a guy?
@lorax if only everyone were like you….in one more generation there’d be no one left!
clarify
I am a guy, a guy I am. I do not like green eggs and ham. I will not eat them on a plane, I will not eat them on a plane. But really, sex is slightly worse. I can probably like green eggs and ham, though. And no, definitely not a virgin. I feel one cannot utter a statement like, “I dislike sex,” unless one has had a whole lot of it just to make sure.
That was supposed to say, “I will not eat them on a plane, I will not eat them on a TRAIN.” Stupid fingers finged the wrong thing.
then what happened?
wrong woman?
maybe she wasnt clean?
you tell me.
whats nasty about sex?
or maybe she just liked it the “other” way (if you know what I mean) 😉
If it were just one woman, one experience, then you might be on the trail of some strange white rabbit, but that rabbit does tend to go down rabbit holes, and those always lead to Wonderland.
No, I’m asexual, which implies I can identify the fact that “sex” contains within it all the gross things that people, outside of sex, are repulsed by. I’m just gifted with the faculty to be repulsed by them in sex as well as outside it. Most people are very strange in that they don’t mind one thing in one set of circumstances, but in another, it’s just abhorrent. Well, to me, it’s always abhorrent. 😛
oh. ok
i see
It’s what the holy people pretend they are without being holy.
@lorax
You’re asexual? I reproduce by budding myself. 🙂
I am an amoeba. Glurp.
I am the walrus.
divorce is wrong unless one spouse cheats or they are willfully abused by the other.
deception of any kind is wrong, in a marriage or elsewhere.
Divorce is only wrong if it’s on the grounds of stale coffee.
Duke…
I was certainly deceived in this marriage. He changed completely. This is fraud.
You can’t control a persons mind, their impulses and nature. If I wasn’t able to make that person happy I’d be inclined to free them. It becomes more complicated when children are involved. When you sign up to it you take those risks otherwise don’t get married. I suppose if I was I’d probably feel differently. I never used to have a blasè attitude. I’m still a proud person in that sense and can still feel dishonoured. I accept I’m not perfect now and wouldn’t impose that standard on anyone else.
@coquito: in re: comment in moderation about asexuality.
There’s a theory that asexuality occurs so much in Japan due to the over-sexualizing current that ran through their society following WW2. I’ve read about it and I do find that issue interesting.
aw f— you, really.
deceived…..
what bullshit…..
the guy gets hurt…. maybe depressed coz of it….. and you were “deceived”.
what a **** you are.
actually, the issue of asexuality is related to homosexuality……
the source promoting it is the same.
its also comes from the same source that promotes the disintegration of traditinal marriages.
@duke
and now for something completely different: do they have harness racing in the u.k. ?
and produces “women” like who posted here.
It’s because they watch too much anime and spend too much time on the Internet like us. They get immersed in a fantasy world which becomes less challenging and even more satisfying that real life.
This thread should be required reading for any woman considering marriage. The lesson?
Never marry a mollycoddled man/boy. If your prospective husband believes the only reason that you exist is to pamper/attend to/serve him, run for the hills.
Thank you WIG for demonstrating the role of the mollycoddled crybaby so convincingly.
@ Wifeisgone : Sex promotes asexuality among people inclined in that direction. Why would a lack of interest in sex be deviant? Why would an interest in same-sex relationships be deviant? That makes about as much sense as rallying against margarine because butter is clearly superior and holy.
@lorax
where can you see whether a comment’s in moderation ?
No they don’t have Roman Racing here. That’s just Aus and NZ. I’m familiar with all the Aus harness racing trainers and drivers. That’s what I’m usually listening to between the hours of 3:00am – 10:00 am.
See the icon near the top of the screen, next to “the suicide project,” which has a dialog balloon and the number 4 next to it? Click that bad boy, then filter the comments by clicking the “pending” column and thou shalt see the moderated comments of commenting.
you missed the boat.
her husband requires care.
any woman who runs from that when she is married to him, is filth.
it is not the same as finding a man who automatically expects pampering.
get it right.
because in the end days the world was also predicted to become vile and corrupt, and lacking natural affection (lacking the desire to be with the opposite sex that way)
and if you look around you, this is what it has become.
and God will soon show who is boss, and wipe all this filth from this rock.
and then there will be no more of gay marriage, asexualism, anything thats an abomination to God, and that includes wives leaving husbands to “do their own thing”.
😉
In the end times, the bible predicts that many people will try to speak on behalf of god, and the bible makes specific mention of such people as unnatural deviations. Romans 1 is really focused on such people. I’m amazed at how many people think that’s about homosexuality when it’s really about Churches pandering to humans and their want for power over others.
i personally give it another decade, if that.
than its all over.
its ALL over.
Hey now, Jesus was asexual. Are you calling him an abomination? Good lord, what do they teach in Churches these days?
in the end times, people will call evil good, and good evil 😉
Jesus was/is God as man.
He didnt come to have sex, He came to save the world from itself, or rather those who weren’t ignorant and willing to listen.
Oh my god! Jesus didn’t fulfill his purpose as a MALE by having sex with a FEMALE! And God did make them male and female, after all, not to be alone and all that jazz.
If the world was full of asexual people it would probably be the most pleasant place to live. They tend to think more logically than the average human.
C4,
He was my hero long ago. He is 13 years my senior, so I never expected to have Adonis for life. I expected him to perhaps age like a normal man…you know, maybe by the time he was this age (mid 40’s) have a few issues…sure. I was never unreasonable. I think I could even deal with how it is, if he just made an effort and stopped using his disabilities as a crutch and source of pity. Do you know, he even recounts the story (of how he became disabled) to random strangers and our child’s teachers? He seeks pity! I cannot respect a man that seeks pity. People even look at me like “Why are you with him? How do you put up with this shit?” and all I can do is look at the floor. What’s the use?
If you ever find yourself on a sinking ship, do not try to save yourself by getting into a life boat. Abandoning the sinking ship would prove your disloyalty. Instead, follow Gods wishes and drown. Can’t abandon a sinking ship. God commands loyalty.
Jesus didnt come to start an earthly family, which is the purpose of sex.
You should know that, right? 🙂
Typical christard…my life sucks, so may the whole thing burn to smithereens! Always refreshing, logical and oh so compassionate.
What have YOU done for HIS mental state?
Have you gone to counseling?
Is everything HIS fault?
Coz, there is YOUR truth, there is HIS truth, and then there is THE TRUTH.
You still married for life……… and you are required to sacrifice if need be.
If he isnt abusive to you, isnt cheating, you have no valid argument to abandon him. NONE.
@Wifeisgone: I thought the purpose of sex was the union of two beings – let them be joined as one and etc… which implies that the purpose of being male, or being female, is that union. The whole idea of the Church is founded on that principle, after all, with the church being the bride and Jesus being the groom. The Church these days is fraught with idolatry and paganism and humans who think they know the will of god – very unfaithful.
what the hell? all you did in your post was rant how bad this guy is……. you claim no faults…. you say nothing about the effect this has on your daughter, if you should leave him, how it will ruin her. “where is daddy” she will ask.
You want the “easy way out”.
Thats what society calls for,
Its selfish, like most everything else in society.
You married him, he is your husband, the 2 become one.
“let no man (or woman) break what God has joined”
@wig are you secretly robert deniro in taxi driver ? if so, we won’t tell anyone
@lorax thanks. is there a reason why certain comments go in moderation ? and if it can’t come out, is there some kind of money-back policy ? it was my masterpiece….. now there’s truly a reason to kill yourself — no success even on a suicide board
WOW…so anyway, I am a new person here…is there any way to mute another user’s commentary? I’ve looked and seen no such function.
yes it is fraught with idolatry. In fact, most churches nowadays arent genuine ones, they have strayed from the original teachings, many now even introducing outright occult into them. I have studied this extensively.
There is a reason Jesus is the groom and the church the bride (the real church by the way).
The church is under guidance of Jesus.
Jesus being the groom (male) also implies that the bride (female() is subserviant to Him.
It’s easy to sacrifice your own happiness when it’s already gone. When I first joined the site I found it most endearing that people no longer seemed human. I liked them.
@212121
You don’t need to look back to your “past life” to wonder why you find yourself where you are, you only have to look back eight years and ask yourself why you married this manchild in disguise. These sort of things are never obvious from the get-go, but once you see them, you realise how…blind you were to it all. You have a daughter with this manchild who quite frankly deserves a better father in her life. If he’s too scared and lazy to do anything on his own, how is he supposed to love and support his own daughter?
I understand that you crave sexual fulfillment, that’s a given and you shouldn’t deny yourself that comfort. But you should, at the very least, break off things as civil as is possible. I saying this from how your daughter will see this, who will undoubtedly be affected by the end result. Don’t let your sexual desires overshadow the most important person to you, okay?
Hope this helps, and best wishes.
yea, you click on your internet connection and turn it off. lol
whala!!!
no more chat!!!
lol 🙂
Nope. You could still be friends you know. All is not lost.
Thank you rogue. She gets on my nerves at times, but I will not let this child fail. Trust and believe that. I’m weak too, from all of this, and i have to be strong for her. Not him, HER. Then, starting over just seems so daunting when here…all i have to do is blank him out and proceed as if i am a single parent. Because, that’s what I am honestly, a married single parent.
212121, you got your superior today……. someone who sees you for what you are…..
a horrible wife that no guy in their right mind would want.
no good guy wants a wife who will abandon them if they get ill like your husband.
your hubby should be ashamed of what he has, just as I was with my piece of shit wife.
I honestly look back 8 years ago and see a man that I would wish that all women on planet Earth had. He was intelligent, resourceful, thoughtful, compassionate and competent. So many other beautiful things too. He was a beautiful man, inside and out, long ago. I don’t believe in marriage anymore, because if you get set up like this, you lose who you THOUGHT you had that you made a vow to. I don’t even know who I am married to anymore.
admit it……. you are selfish…… you dont love him, you dont want to take care of him coz he is sick…….. you want “out” and are looking for excuses to cover your own selfishness.
PATHETIC.
If your husband is any of what you have described, then in all honesty, he should let you go. If he is truly a man, he should see what he has become and how he has neglected you on more than just an emotional and spiritual level, and let you continue your own course of life, free from his hypothetical shackles of despair.
As a man, I can truly say that if I knew I was incapable of giving my wife my all (as every woman deserves) I would let her go. No one, man or woman, deserves this sort of torment. And as you’ve said, you don’t even know who your husband is anymore.
I think that deep inside you…you know what needs to be done.
The “end of days” will most likely be brought about by rampant capitalism, or should I say fascism? Not homosexuality or asexuals. And to think homosexuality is some recent occurrence, is incredibly naive. The only reason it seems more prevalent is that people are being more open about it now. And why shouldn’t they be? Oh, because of ignorant and intolerant people like you, WIG. It’s clear that you don’t want a wife, you want a slave.
@212121 You can delete or trash comments on the main comments page. If you hover over them you’ll options for that. I’m sorry you’ve been attacked like this. I hope you figure out what to do. You seem to be in a really tough spot and I’m sure it’s difficult and taxing to decide what’s best for you and your child.
That’s just it. He has allowed the depression to consume him and he has allowed it to win. He won’t even fight. He won’t even try alternative therapies. I have offered to prepare fresh herb and fruit/vegetable tonics for him and include him in my low intensity exercise. He makes every excuse. One memorable time that he did come hiking with me (since the accident) he yelled at me the entire time about being outside. I didn’t force him to come. He said ‘yes’. His doctors have strongly advised him to take exercise because he is obese and his heart is strained. He also has lung problems! A true miracle, is how I have not gone completely off the deep end. I do EVERYTHING and I only have a hired hand one Sunday out of the month. To his credit, he does cut the grass. But I cook, clean, take care of the baby, the cats, manage bills, repairs (he used to be a A+ handyman…no longer) and ensure that the house runs smoothly. I get no meaningful help from him. Usually, I am stepping in between him and our daughter, because he loses his temper with her too often and calls her “*****” and he has even called her the C word before!!! She is an 8 year old child! Are you kidding ME!!
in the end days, good will be called evil, and evil good, and this includes the acceptance of what is abhorent to God, and that includes homosexuality as being accepted as “normal. when it is not.
It isnt hard to understand, unless of course one has been brainwashed to accept it as normal 😉
i dont accept cussing at a kid like that. that is wrong.
If you leave him, you still have to do that all and more.
Just like my **** who left, she has a lot of expense and chores she didnt have before.
But she has the freedom to be a whore.
Good girl,
Thank you for your reply. It’s okay. I let it have it earlier.
But in any case, I feel like an old war horse. Just beat down, but I look at what it has done to my husband and I just cannot allow myself to fall like that. Something within me won’t let it happen. I feel deeply, and I am here because of the despair of my particular situation, like everyone else…but I can’t just let go and allow life to kick my ass. It hurts me to see that my husband has allowed it to happen to him. How do you pull someone out of an epic funk? Five therapists, two psychiatrists, well meaning friends and family, a wife that has stood by him, countless medical physicians later…and he still remains stuck on stupid. I am so tired. So very tired.
The human in me has said “do the honourable thing and end the marriage peaceful like” but the soldier in me says “f#ck that shit, leave that worthless, jack, incompetent moron the day before yesterday!!!” I cannot stand lazy men who sit around and want the world on a plate, it sickens me to even think I’m the same species as those inferior f#ckwits! But I will not tolerate…literally NEVER tolerate any kind of abuse towards children, especially one’s own!
Okay, so, being real here, you need out from this. I’m sure you will find better.
It’s easy to dismiss everything WIG says because of personal feelings toward his attitude on sexuality and in general. But he’s honest. If you were trapped in his life you’d be more forgiving. I suppose you could say the same for 212121. Bias often manifests subconsciously.
What 212121 has said is probably just her way of expressing 8 years of misery all at once. You shouldn’t assess somebody’s entire worth by a post or comment as it’s misleading. But I can’t imagine there weren’t aspects of it that people were not dubious about. They’re just not saying it.
I find that those who haven’t lost all chance or still have desire are unable to fully empathise with those who have. Those who have lost it all also find it difficult to accept their fate. That’s where the conflict arises. I suppose sometimes it just depends on the individual personalities.
Nobody is perfect, everyone has something they did or said they later wish they hadn’t.
Truly I say unto thee, that if you wish for a treat, that’s sweet as the virgin Mary’s teat, thou shalt buy some canned unicorn meat. It is delicious and can be had for only $19.99 upon thy marketplace of amazon.com.
@212121
It’s good that you can still find the strength to keep going. It sounds like your husband suffers from apathy, perhaps. (sorry, I haven’t read through the entirety of this thread) I’m not sure you can pull someone out of a deep apathetic state like that. Especially if he has virtually “given up”. He would have to find it in himself to change. And because you do everything around the house and take care of kids and pets, he doesn’t have much incentive to actually put forth any energy to do anything. I sympathize with how tiring it must be for you. Unfortunately I don’t have any answers for what you can do to help him. Though it sounds like you do enough already.
@ coquito: If you post a link in a comment, it’ll normally go into moderation as a catch-all for spambots. Can’t say for sure with other comments that get picked up by the filter, though.
I know someone who has a spinal cord injury. This condition will not heal itself or improve, and may cause paralysis someday (he would not be able to walk, although I think he would still have use of his upper half). Despite chronic pain, he worked at the same job for 25 years and also ran a business on the side. After 25 years he retired and focused on the business full-time. His wife quit working after she had three kids, so he’s been supporting his family for 25 years as well. His condition made life difficult, but he never gave up. He knew that hard work pays off, and he also went to chiropractors and physio-therapy to try to improve himself.
My point is that disability does not have to be an end-all be-all. A person can still go on and can still make an effort. It’s all in one’s attitude. If it takes a lot of medication to keep that spark going, so be it. It’s much better than lying around feeling sorry for oneself. The guy I mentioned was a suicidal in his 20’s, then he got married and realized there was more to life than feeling depressed and shit. If a person has a purpose to work towards, they will turn out fine.
@lorax
thanks — i assumed it was because of the link
be well
Its good that he was able to pull himself out of it like that.
Not everyone can. Sometimes its not will power, but other reasons beyond their control.
Being sick is not an excuse to leave your spouse, yet some women are plain trash and will do it at the least little sign of inconvenience.
I supported my wife, she didnt have to work, she only did to enjoy the extra money. I took her to Alaska, vacations, gave her all kinds of things, a payed off house, cars, boats, camper, yet she had it in her to be a whore and found the excessive need for the excitement of other and multiple men.
Now this one comes along here, posts how she wants to screw another guy coz she doesnt get it at home, even though she posts its a medical condition.
What crap.
@wig
is there a tiny chance that perhaps (he said with the tone of dr freud) you’re projecting on to her your own experiences ? just a thought
i read her post…. only one conclusion can be made…… selfish abandonment of an ill spouse. There is no justification of her doing that.
If there is abuse involved, then there is.
Funny, I came to a completely different conclusion from reading her post. Imagine that.
and what is your conclusion?
That shit gets fucked up sometimes and it sucks for everyone involved. Also that life is a messy thing that has no simple answers.
sort of like sex, right? 🙂
Her spouse has the option of putting in an effort. He refuses to. What this tells me is that he doesn’t care about what he has. If he doesn’t care, it won’t make much difference to him if she and their daughter leave. He’s past the point of others helping him. He needs to chose for himself that he wants to improve. Since he is not doing that, this woman has every right to seek happiness. Why should she be miserable for the sake of some unappreciative sod? He does not have any right to say that she is abandoning him when he has rejected all her offers of assistance.
@WIG: No, sex is just icky. But I grant that some people rather like it, and I hold no grudges against them for the disparity. It’s still icky, though.
@Persephone
Well said, and even better that its come from a woman’s POV. I think you pretty much just validated everything that 212121 wants. Can we finally put this post to rest?
Oh and yes, this is abuse of her good will. Unequivocally. You can’t be in a relationship offering nothing to the other person, yet still expect them to pander to your every whim. This is not a relationship anymore. This woman is raising her daughter alone and living her life alone, with a roommate who is not contributing. Who wants to have a roommate who won’t pay the bills, won’t help around the house, who is only leeching off your charity? She has no obligation to him anymore. He’s the person she once married and the father of her daughter, but that’s all.
If you only or mostly experience the negative sides of things, you’re going to have a negative bias.
I also think it’s a bit ironic that 212121 is suggesting that men’s feelings of “entitlement” to love and physical affection, is “undeserved,” while also behaving as if she, herself, feels an entitlement to such things, perhaps, “just because she has a vagina.”
I think we all should want such things, because we are human, and that’s part of what people find to be good in and about life. It’s not that either gender expects to be granted such things based solely on the grounds of which parts they were born with.
And if we aren’t getting what we want out of life, i think we should either try harder to find it, or determine that it isn’t possible, and then consider the resulting alternatives, and then decide to do whatever we think we should, or whatever feels right.
People are people, and will do what they do.
Sometimes people want something enough that getting it is worth, to them, the harm they may cause others in the process.
Consider the potential consequences, and decide whether what you want is worth that.
he has a head injury,,,,, which means just quite possibly he isnt capable of doing that.
If he really is incapable of it, does she still have the right to leave and abandon him?
No.
Maybe is really is sick to the point where he can’t function on his own in all aspects of life. Maybe he needs her for real.
There was no cominucation with my wife coz she didnt want to. She put forth no effort other than talking to as many guys on her Iphone as she could, then cheating coz she knew I wouldn’t stand for perversion in the bedroom.
well yea, all that cum and stuff, smell of ass, sometimes ya get it on yas hehehe.
but it is fun and enjoyable. Its better than a pockey p____ (they can be messy too) hehehe (even though I never used one).
Blargh, you can keep nasty tatters.
lol WIG you seem like such a bitter, hateful, resentful person. It is honestly impossible for me to find any empathy whatsoever for you. I will say that from what I have seen of 212121 in this post, in the comments and even moreso in her first post that she is not any kind of person I would want to associate with either. More from the awful things she says about her child than from anything she says about either you or her husband.
There may even be some merit to some of the accusations you make against her, but you know what it really doesn’t even matter. No one is going to listen because of the horrid attitude in which you present them. You keep trying to tell us what a great person you are and how well you treated your wife. Yet nearly everything I have seen you say and post on this website says exactly the opposite. To me you seem like a truly wretched representative of humanity. You seem incredibly self absorbed you really do seem like you feel entitled to a degree of love and affection that obviously other people just don’t feel towards you.
Personally just from what I have seen of you on here, I think you got exactly what you deserved from your wife. I for one applaud her leaving you. You say its not done yet that she is still trying to take even more from you, I say good for her. I hope she takes everything from you. House, money, cars, boats all those things you say you paid for I hope she gets it all. I hope she leaves you in the gutter where you belong without even dignity to cling to.
I hope you keep posting your little rants, and sharing all your hate and venom. Keep spewing all your impotent rage on this site knowing none of it will have any effect or change anything. Keep sharing your pain and suffering knowing it brings joy to at least some of us. I for one am enjoying it all, and I look forward to watching you suffer even more. So please do continue to make me a happier person with your anguish 🙂
but if he has a head injury and can’t?????
@wig
interesting that both of us are suffering from being abandoned by our respective wives, but you have spent a number of hours mercilessly and vilely insulting this woman (without knowing the facts of the situation, as none of us do), but to me what she writes is eminently reasonable
funny how that works
I take abandonment personally.
And I hate seeing another poor guy put in the position coz of some screwed up selfish “woman” who wants to split coz she isn’t happy and wants to forget her vows.
His wife is not obligated to be his caretaker. If he needs a caretaker he can go live in a home where people will be paid to look after him. This is how the elderly are managed, and I consider it fair. If 212121 wants she could visit occasionally so that he can see his daughter. But with his behaviour, he has already given up his right to have either the woman he married or his daughter in his life.
Marriage is a legal contract. If the terms of the contract are not upheld (I.e., both parties put in as much effort as possible, showing that they care for one another), the contract can be rendered invalid.
the only part i agree with is the abuse,,,,,,, to protect the child….
“lol WIG you seem like such a bitter, hateful, resentful person. It is honestly impossible for me to find any empathy whatsoever for you. ”
But this is a result of being unfairly mistreated… being treated without empathy or sympathy. How can you not have at least some sympathy for that? Do you know what kind of people treat others without empathy? Sociopaths and Psychopaths; because they have a physiological lack of empathy. I don’t think it’s right to give someone even more of that, due to the negative results produced in them, by being given that, and treated in exactly those same ways. You’re just throwing more fuel on the fire, so to speak. You’re only going to encourage even more bitterness, hatefulness, and resentment.
Do you think the guy would have such a strong negative bias, if he hadn’t been dealt more than his fair share of negativity?
I mean, i obviously don’t agree with everything WIG says, mostly due to a fundamental incompatibility in the ways we each perceive the world… but even i will speak up when i think someone is contributing to the very same things they criticize him for. I can’t stand when people do that. I’ve certainly had more than my fair share of it, and it’s infuriating.
It’s funny because I consider the certain Christian version of preaching here to be abhorrent. I hope Christ sees fit to wipe that shit first, or better yet Rapture them away and leave the rest of us to our business. The world would be a better place and they get cordoned off in their VIP section like they dream. Seems perfect to me.
@wig
so you are the official defender of all abandoned men ? i don’t remember having hired you on my behalf
“let no man separate what God has joined”
marriage is a SACRED contract.
And that makes it more valid and stronger than what people can devise,
i dont represent anyone, no need to.
““let no man separate what God has joined—
In my interpretation, this literally refers to the IDEA of god, and to that idea being the reason and motivation for the establishment of a certain doctrine or legal union.
This doesn’t actually make anything sacred; it merely *declares* it as such, and in conjunction with the IDEA of a god being involved in this.
“And that makes it more valid and stronger than what people can devise,”
And that is EXACTLY why… exactly why… such notions were invented in the first place: “because it (seems to) makes it mean more than anything a human can decree.”
So if you invent a god, you have also invented a higher authority, whose words and decrees can be creatively interpreted, in order to fabricate credence from authority. If most people believe in that authority, then it works. If everyone decides it’s invalid and irrelevant, that authority can no longer lend credence to any claim or creative interpretation of laws (all of which are man-made).
@WIG: Just so long as you aren’t wearing any mixed fabrics at the altar, anyhow. Also, no crustaceans should be served during the ceremony.
my wife was a disrespectful ****, filthy on the inside and out, ungrateful ***** who not only disrespected our marriage but everyone else around mom and I. A fat whale that only thought of herself, greedy, nasty to even look at, a cheater, liar, schemer, plain garbage.
@wig
let’s cut to the chase — for you it’s a religious issue
since i’m not of the same religion as you (i’m jewish), our perspectives are accordingly somewhat different…however you might be interested in knowing that in judaism it is an OBLIGATION for a man to give sexual pleasure to his wife (there is no such obligation on the part of the woman)… if there ever wasn’t more of a reason for a sex-change operation 🙂
So when did God decide that marriage was a sacred contract? Was marriage not sacred before the idea of God was known? The prehistoric people, do you think they made a big deal out of who they decided to sleep with? I doubt it. They probably thought, “Oh that girl looks attractive. She can have my sons.” I doubt they limited themselves to one girl either, unless they ‘fell in love.’
If marriage was not ‘sacred’ at the beginning of human history, why is it now?
its specifically written in there……. man is not to interpret the Bible.
The Bible interprets itself.
The reason there is sich a mess in religion as a whole is because people in general have sought to ignore that command.
If man is not to interpret the Bible, then unfortunately all of western Christianity is screwed since it was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine Greek. Better start taking foreign language courses, dude.
because we arent neanderthals.
thats why.
no, man isnt supposed to.
interpretation is different from translation.
Wait… how can a bible “interpret itself?”
It’s a book! It’s not sentient!
…and if it IS sentient, then how does it reproduce? Doesn’t this mean that all bibles are actually fabrications and replications done by man, and not “naturally occurring” in the world, through the sheer will of god?
236 comments lol is that a record on here? hahahaha
If man makes a bible, does the bible still have a soul?
Does the man who makes the bibles, have a soul?
What about the men made by the bible? Do those men have souls?
if you want to know what a passage means (if you are confused), you can find the answer in another part of it.
thats what it means.
The Bible has been constructed that way via Gods’ guidance.
so much you dont know.
you should know the answer to that cm
@per
with regard to ‘prehistoric people’, i know something about this since my wife is from a city in the peruvian amazon (she is not ‘indigenous’, although she definitely has some indigenous blood, as almost all people there do)
in indigenous cultures, adolescents start having sex as soon as they have sexual urges, and with as many partners as they like — for them sex is a part of nature…there are no taboos around it
No one can know everything; there is too much to know.
Many would argue that no one can “know” anything; this could mean there is nothing to “know,” since “knowing” would be impossible.
The idea that the bible should interpret itself is kind of an epistemological circular argument – you can only understand the bible by reading it backwards. Like, literally, backwards. The is ehT, end is dne. Try it sometime. You’ll be amazed by how coherent it is.
@lorax:
lol…
So, in the beginning, there were “revelations,” which ultimately lead to the creation of a new religion, and the thing we now call “the bible.”
It is mentioned in the NT that wives are not to deny their husbands, and the same in reverse.
Like i said: if you believe it is a valid authority, then it works; if you don’t believe it is a valid authority, then it doesn’t work.
If you do not grant authority a power to control you, then you don’t have to obey (despite the very real and present potential for consequences imposed by those authorities, for disobedience).
Well, if you want to know how the contemporary Christian churches have got so mixed up and incoherent, not inerrant mind you, then you can start by trying to understand the bible from the back to the front. Read the epistles and the gospels, THEN move on to the arbitrarily termed, “Old Testament.” The picture will be immensely different than if you started at Genesis and read the book like it was a novel or something.
we are all subject to Gods laws, no matter whether you believe in Him/them or not.
WIG so you are saying that at some point God appeared and said, “Okay folks, I know you’ve been getting along fine, but I just had to step in anyway. This is how things are going to be from now on. I got my buddies here to write this book for you, read it and follow all my rules or I will bring destruction, mad hatters, and swarms of locusts upon you. Kthnxbai. I have a pedicure appointment to get to.”
they have become so mixed up because of how satan has introduced confusion.
enjoy the foot job lol
isit just me or does every post seem to end up with some one talking about religion recently?
See? That’s what I mean – the contemporary Christianity teaches that Satan is some evil being that’s out to get them when nowhere in the Bible does it say such a thing, if you read it like a novel. In fact, Satan’s just God’s buddy for separating the unfaithful fools from the rest of the flock. Like, sifting those who would profess to be god’s buddy while using the name of god for their own purposes. But even further, you could understand Satan as just an inclination of human nature, and not so much an entity external to man.
its just you. you are hallucinating lol 🙂
satan is shown to be a fallen angel, an entity, not a manifestation.
@Procel We are all theologians on this site. Anti-religion theologians versus theists. We might as well call this The God Project.
What the heck is an angel? O.o I don’t think there are even more than a handful of references to that term in the Bible and yet this whole mythology has been built up around it as though it has it’s own special chapter in the Bible.
getting your toenails done today? 🙂
bb in a bit
WIG Go back and read my comment. I said that’s what His Almighty was doing.
I wonder if God likes Cosmo martinis and if he has a Chihuahua and a pink Alexander McQueen handbag. Maybe he’s a fan of Sex in the City. Does he have a lot of high-heeled shoes? So many questions. Perhaps I should write a new version of the Bible. It will be far more glamourous than the last one. Who wants to read about beheadings and incest and women on their periods? Ick. Designer clothing, all-night raves, and lots of experimental drugs and sex will make for a much better read.
What if god was one of us? Just a stranger on the bus…
Do you think God likes cats? I have a feeling they were meant to be the crown of creation, but we just screwed up translating Genesis.
Yeah, I think God probably has a Persian cat or something. I have a feeling he likes the extra fluffy types.
> Do you think God likes cats?
only if they wear hats
@P i never undestood the logic behind such discussions, neither side can prove their point beyond any doubt, and besides you cannot have a logical debate with religious people because religious faith is based on an abscence of logical reasoning
Original post: I know you care deeply about your child….right? So if she is too young to care for herself like why not at LEAST ….the miminum….the least you can do is leave her about 75,000$ in an account for her use when she is 18…21 whatever but at least you can leave her something…. If you truly think this life is too much fine…I understand you but don’t leave your innocent baby out here hanging…give her a fighting chance….yes she will eventually come to terms with what you did and she will a have a much easier time forgiving you if you leave her with something that could give her a head start in life…
@Procel Well if it is keeping folk’s minds off suicide, maybe it is a good thing? I dunno. Why don’t we all tell stories of our drunken misdemeanors instead? That sounds more entertaining.
@per
did you ever see woody allen’s crimes and misdemeanors ? it’s one of the most honest (in the sense of showing life how it really is) films that i’ve seen
I’m not sure why this is suddenly so striking to me, but let’s think about that word: “misdemeanor.”
Mis-demeanor.
“Behaving unacceptably,” or “having an attitude.”
Why is “unpleasant attitude and/or behavior” a punishable “crime?”
Why does anyone have such “authority” to impose penalties for “demeanor” ?
This is a case of “it’s not what you say, but how you say it,” existing as the basis for LAW. I think that’s incredibly stupid.
I’m a fan of Woody Allen but I haven’t seen that one yet. I certainly will when I get the chance.
Hey now, Christianity is steeped in logic. Logic doesn’t care whether an argument is true or false, in reality, but whether it’s consistent with the rules underlying logic. Logic is the metaphysical to reality’s physical.
Combining two recent themes of this thread, Woody Allen and theology:
— ‘If there’s a God why is there so much evil in the world ? Just on a simplistic level, why were there nazis ?’
— ‘How the hell do I know why there were nazis ? I don’t know how the can opener works.’
I just wanted you all to know I thought about this post while I was taking a dump hehehe 😉
I shall depart this house soon for some Midori 🙂
@WIG Thanks for sharing…
You are welcome hehehehe 😉
277 comments now lol
Anyone care for some unicorn meat? It’s fabulous. Nothing at all like spam.
I don’t think you should discuss the consumption of unicorns. People may find that offensive. (Can’t unicorns talk? How could you eat a talking animal?)
Unicorns are delicious! Anyone who disagrees has clearly never tried it. God made unicorns so we could eat them, after all.
maybe unicorns made god ? (ah yes, the argument from first causes, again 🙂
That’s silly. If unicorns made god, we’d be eating god and not unicorns. I mean, with the exception of the Catholics and their weird Eucharist thing.
Yes, that did indeed occur to me as i was writing it, but for the more than 90% of humanity who are not catholics, since there’s no dogma of transubstantiation, it wouldn’t be a problem.
Unicornism, the world’s newest religion
Unitarian Unicornism – a faith that stands with outstretched hands to… well, pretty much anyone and if you don’t like it, well, that’s cool with us. You’re going to heaven anyhow! Bwuahahaha. Also serving tasty unicorn meat 24/7.
In Asia they consume a lot of questionable dishes. I wouldn’t be surprised if they capture and eat any number of fantastical or otherworldly species there.
@per
on a serious note, is it true that the founders of this site are theologians ? (there’s obviously some religious connection, since in the FAQ it mentions not preaching the gospel as one of the prohibited actions; luckily, for me that’s not a problem 🙂
@per
‘questionable’ is putting it EXTREMELY mildly
basically, for the chinese, if it’s any type of living matter, it’s edible
@lorax
personally, i like dudeism
dudeism.com
the dude — my alter ego (and probably my ego as well)
In Thailand they breed dogs to eat. Dogs: okay, but I don’t really want to know what else they might put into their meals.
I was joking about that bit. Religion seems to be many suicidals’ favorite topic, that’s all.
@per
thanks for clarifying….and yes, you definitely don’t want to know what they put in their dishes
but it’s all culturally relative — what one culture sees as normal, is taboo to another
however, it does seem that the chinese will eat anything, and can’t understand why other people won’t as well
Our local Chinese buffet was busted for putting sewer rat meat on the tray.
Evidently they set traps and then cooked them the following day to save money on ordering meat from the suppliers.
Evidently it tastes like beef as noone noticed and it took a disgruntled employee to break it loose.
Of course they were fines, jailed, and the place was shut down.
duck fetus — a delicacy throughout asia
i used to have a seafood market, chinese would always ask for fish anus.
They made a soup with it.
lets get this post over 300 comments. ok?
This is the most comments on a post in a while. Too bad it wasn’t on a more cheerful topic to begin with.
Hm, the Japanese are more sanitary in their food preparation, are they not? They eat raw fish, yes, but at least it’s usually fresh, and marinated beforehand. I’m craving sushi now. It’s been a couple months since I’ve had some. Maybe I should go out for New Year’s Eve to the all-you-can-eat sushi place.
Sushi mmmm. A close friend of mine, who lived for a long time in Toronto (near you eh), and then moved back to his native Prague, claims he makes the best sushi in Prague. He says the key is in the rice preparation.
Really now. Has he been to Japan? I saw a documentary called ‘Jiro Dreams of Sushi,’ about a maestro who’d been in the business for decades. It was rather interesting to see his methods for preparation. They would always buy fresh fish at the market, too. He truly put his whole heart and soul into this livelihood.
In the film they said there are five attributes to being a successful chef:
“1. Take your work seriously
2. Aspire to improve
3. Maintain cleanliness
4. Be a better leader than a collaborator (i.e., be creative)
5. Be passionate about your work.”
I don’t think so (ie about his having been to Japan), but I’ll ask him. I’ve heard about that film, but I haven’t see it; from what I’ve read, and from what you just wrote, it seems like a really interesting documentary.
Btw, I think you have the honor of being the 300th commentator on the thread.
Congrats 🙂
Not one person agreed with any aspect of what wifeisgone said is the most disturbing news of the day, after Sprinter Sacre’s injury at Kemption.
i guess you didnt read it all then
Not the parts you’d expect. People always argue over whether suicide is or isn’t selfish. I think suicidal people can be selfish.
all people can be selfish
Try not to think about it too much. Take each day at a time. Do what you enjoy doing.
yes.
right now im thinking about sleep.
took pills and my drink. im off really soon.
@C4: Holy shit. It may just be the massive amounts of alcohol I have imbibed this night, but I just stumbled across this beautiful nugget of amazingness you posted…
“If you ever find yourself on a sinking ship, do not try to save yourself by getting into a life boat. Abandoning the sinking ship would prove your disloyalty. Instead, follow Gods wishes and drown. Can’t abandon a sinking ship. God commands loyalty.”
Damn. Blew that shit outta the water. Reminds me of some movie I can’t recall about some dude in an Arab land dealing with Muslims who thought that if they got stuck in quicksand, well, shit, that was gods will and they should just die there rather than let some infidel help them out. But for the life of me I can’t remember what movie it was. O.o
I don’t know why any religious person goes to the doctor…like that is sooo not in the plan dude….which brings me to my next point….why do they even want to live long? If they truly believe in heaven I would welcome death at every corner…I would never take any medicine or even see a doctor…the way they clinch to life you’d think even they don’t believe in the shit they tell you….
gee, lol
and some of you thought my posts were insulting? lol
I fully agree with the above, except the daughter part…… the kid has no say in it, I feel terrible for the kid really.
having a mother like that…. its terrible.
Holy shit, that was some harsh vitriol. I think I need an antivitriol tablet from my doctor now.
@coquito: do you need an antivitriol tablet, too? I can ask my doctor for extras.
You know, I wonder how differently this thread might have turned out had a man written it about his wife, rather than the other way around. Thought experiments like that induce migraines, though, and I’m out of ibuprofen, which is rather shitty.
@lorax
please…i think i might be suffering from vitriolicitis after that comment
@lorax
that’s actually a very interesting idea…let’s see if someone will fund it
aspirin, my man, aspirin
wow, long thread. I didn’t read it all, but read enough to see how it was going. Yikes.
My two cents:
W.I.G. is not portraying his true self here. He is actually a very kind and caring person. He knows that I left the father of my child when she was a baby none the less, but has never been anything but supportive. (my ex was terrible)…
He is very hurt and while I don’t agree with what he said, I do know that it’s not his true self speaking (from what I know of him) but it’s the hurt speaking. That said, I don’t condone comments like that.
212121 I think that you should evaluate the situation and do what is best for everyone involved. Not what is best for any one person. I’m not quite sure what the situation is with your husband, there weren’t many details but if he’s able to go to work, etc. wouldn’t he be able to do other things? Does he want the marriage to continue? Do you have any love left for him at all? If so, you can find a counselor that you both feel comfortable with and try that first perhaps? Also, just as I didn’t agree with WIG’s comments to you, I don’t agree with your comments to him!!
We are all very hurt here, so why not make up and support each other through our pain, not put each other down? Nobody here should be mean to anyone else. I think a good rule of thumb that should apply especially to a website like this is, If you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all. Everyone here is too depressed to read mean things!!!