lol you’d be the lazy Sysiphus. Hey, if he’s already condemned to push that damn rock, what’s to stop him from NOT pushing that rock? What if just he sat down and said “fuck this.” What more can the gods do to him, kill him? Might as well take that option.
Even worst like: ‘I don’t even want to stop pushing this rock, I just really need to or I will feel (what ever good feeling you want) and I can’t allow that calm and peace for me’
Oh, so according to the story, he tried to cheat death, which is why he landed in hades in the first place, and that rock rolling for eternity was his punishment. So if he’s already in hell, what happens if he just folded his arms and said “nope, i’m not doing this.”
The thing is he just can’t decide. It’s not his choice anymore. He can’t control himself.
Or as part of the link Cordless shared is, he may as well not be completely aware of how many times he is doing it, as the daily worker that keeps on trying once and again the same rutine, knowing he is repeting himself and hating it but without actually realizing the absurdity of his repetitions. (My interpretation, I couldn’t read it carefully as I am a little tired now)
It wouldn’t be a punishment if the person didn’t know the absurdity of his repetitions. The whole point of punishment is making the other person aware that his actions are completely futile, and yet, he must continue to do it anyway.
But, can he blame him for trying to cheat death and NOT be in purgatory? He had already died once, wound up in Hades, he said “fuck this, I’m getting outta here,” he was cunning enough to escape and wind up back in the living world where he lived the rest of his life, and he died again and wound up in Hades again. So the rock rolling was his punishment for trying to cheat death.
But he’d be in Hades anyway, even if he didn’t do anything. He’d just get a different punishment. And come to think of it, if you’re in Hades, in Hell, and you’re destined to move a rock up and down a hill every day, I guess it’s not that bad a punishment, considering you are in Hell after all.
Hades is not a hell per se. And remember greeck God’s had human feelings like pride and envy, and jealousy. So we can’t read it within our comprehension of life and death, of gods and of punishment. It must be read within it’s own context…
But to not ruin the fun I would say, I wouldn’t like having to push that rock for no reason.
Like the legend of Sysiphus? The never-ending of rolling a huge rock up the hill and repeating it for all eternity? For better or worse, I guess we mere humans get to die. Tho… the process of slowly atrophying and dying is not something I look forward to.
I get that the myth of Sisyphus initially looks tragic. His endless pushing of the rock uphill seems futile and one dimensional. You wonder how this repetition is possible with the inherent lack of mental stimulation.
I wonder if the opposite is true, that he is in fact content and does not view this task as a punishment. His foreseeable future is written, removing any potential variables.
Also, mentally he could use this punishment to compare any prior or future experiences against. Essentially as a measure of happiness.
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Ha, instead of climbing that person would be better off just going around in circles.
Or just letting go and dropping to the bottom.
lol you’d be the lazy Sysiphus. Hey, if he’s already condemned to push that damn rock, what’s to stop him from NOT pushing that rock? What if just he sat down and said “fuck this.” What more can the gods do to him, kill him? Might as well take that option.
Exactly.
Only instead of “lazy”, I’d call it “working smarter and not harder.”
Maybe part of the punishment is actually losing his own will. But not his consciousness.
Maybe he has OCD and couldn’t stop even if he wanted to.
That’s a living hell :/
Good explanation
“I can’t stop pushing this damn rock! don’t ask me why! MUST… PUSH!” … yeah… sounds awful (and eerily familiar).
Even worst like: ‘I don’t even want to stop pushing this rock, I just really need to or I will feel (what ever good feeling you want) and I can’t allow that calm and peace for me’
Sounds just like when i went to see jack and jill to the movie theater.
I wouldn’t push myself that far, that’s beyond my standards hahaha
Oh, so according to the story, he tried to cheat death, which is why he landed in hades in the first place, and that rock rolling for eternity was his punishment. So if he’s already in hell, what happens if he just folded his arms and said “nope, i’m not doing this.”
The thing is he just can’t decide. It’s not his choice anymore. He can’t control himself.
Or as part of the link Cordless shared is, he may as well not be completely aware of how many times he is doing it, as the daily worker that keeps on trying once and again the same rutine, knowing he is repeting himself and hating it but without actually realizing the absurdity of his repetitions. (My interpretation, I couldn’t read it carefully as I am a little tired now)
It wouldn’t be a punishment if the person didn’t know the absurdity of his repetitions. The whole point of punishment is making the other person aware that his actions are completely futile, and yet, he must continue to do it anyway.
Anyway, he’s in hell so I guess he got no choice. He has to roll that damn rock forever.
You are right, my wrong, it was: he does notice the absurdity, but can’t avoid it.
But, can he blame him for trying to cheat death and NOT be in purgatory? He had already died once, wound up in Hades, he said “fuck this, I’m getting outta here,” he was cunning enough to escape and wind up back in the living world where he lived the rest of his life, and he died again and wound up in Hades again. So the rock rolling was his punishment for trying to cheat death.
But he’d be in Hades anyway, even if he didn’t do anything. He’d just get a different punishment. And come to think of it, if you’re in Hades, in Hell, and you’re destined to move a rock up and down a hill every day, I guess it’s not that bad a punishment, considering you are in Hell after all.
Hades is not a hell per se. And remember greeck God’s had human feelings like pride and envy, and jealousy. So we can’t read it within our comprehension of life and death, of gods and of punishment. It must be read within it’s own context…
But to not ruin the fun I would say, I wouldn’t like having to push that rock for no reason.
Like the legend of Sysiphus? The never-ending of rolling a huge rock up the hill and repeating it for all eternity? For better or worse, I guess we mere humans get to die. Tho… the process of slowly atrophying and dying is not something I look forward to.
Exactly!
A Sisyphean task.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/hell/camus.html
Thanks for the link “The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus” Nice juxtaposition with human life.
I tried to google Sisyphus but got something about STD’s instead.
I think you misspelled “Sysiphus” and typed in “syphilis” O_o
Sorry, was a bad joke. I haven’t had a coffee yet 🙂
Nia,
Lol
I really needed that laugh. 🙂
I get that the myth of Sisyphus initially looks tragic. His endless pushing of the rock uphill seems futile and one dimensional. You wonder how this repetition is possible with the inherent lack of mental stimulation.
I wonder if the opposite is true, that he is in fact content and does not view this task as a punishment. His foreseeable future is written, removing any potential variables.
Also, mentally he could use this punishment to compare any prior or future experiences against. Essentially as a measure of happiness.
Haha