I think God has to exist. Everything we stand for as humans is contradicted if God doesn’t not exist. It would literally be the most depressing thing ever.
If I’m thinking of committing suicide or anyone else for that matter is it that wrong to pray for me or someone else? Pray to God even if i don’t truly believe in Him or if i really do.
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“Everything we stand for as humans is contradicted if God doesn’t not exist”. Can you please explain this to me cause I don’t believe it to be true.
I don’t see what’s wrong with two people sharing the same faith praying for each other, however I, and well I think most of us do not believe in well God.
God is real. There is no doubt. Now i know that will draw a lot of fire from the enemy. Fine – send it.
But for the original poster – is there any doubt there is evil in this world? If there is evil, why would one not believe there is also good. As a person who is also fixated on suicide – I know the struggle is very hard. But one of the very few things that helps me is knowing that God has put me in this place to help someone / somehow. I may never understand it (I dont think we are SUPPOSED to understand it). I just know that it is all for His glory. And the fact that he trusts me (and you) enough to have us journey down this nasty road is actually a compliment from God…..
Good luck in your battle. Prayers to you….
Hey Freak why don’t you come onto chat?
Well, what is considered good and evil? Is all this evil? No, I believe it’s not. It’s just what happens, that’s life, we’re sophisticated people now full of emotion and hurt. Yeah you could argue that what, murder is evil, but in the eye of the murderer, he/she was doing it for “good” in their eyes. To put total faith on something that you believe exists yet you have nothing to basically prove it’s existence is well stupid for a lack of a better word. I will say, I was once a devout Christian unlike these fake ones that associate themselves with Christianity yet cannot list the Ten Commandments. But I started to realize how can you say this divine force we have no knowledge of besides a book is deciding our fate and such? It’s ignorant at best that we create a fake answer to all these questions and problems to make ourselves feel better.
Not knowing is man’s greatest fear.
“ignorant at best”…..
I find the “antis” (as I call them) are always so elitist. I guess your X number of years on this earth and all your insight is far superior…..
Narcisstic much??
“god is real. There is no doubt about it.”
Oh really?
X = 17, yeah I know it seems more like 12-13.
You call the “antis” elitists, yet just refering them as “antis” is a prime example that the believers are indeed elitists, thinking that you’re the saving grace of the world, shoving religion down people’s throats like it’s the thing that life is all about. I don’t care what people believe, as my initial reply to OP, I don’t see anything wrong….people of same faith and such. Luckily I’m surrounded by people who don’t judge but what, you have a group of believers of whatever religion and then an “anti” and what, he/she is outcasted like he’s less of a person than one of them for what?
I may be 17, but I’m not your average 17 year old.
Yeah, if your looking for meaning in life then that can only be found by taking a leap of faith because everything about our existence is temporary. However, having faith in something does not make it anymore real. I don’t believe in such things but if others are able to gain whatever strength they can from it then religion can be a powerful tool. It shouldn’t be forced on others.
anti – refers to antireligious…. HARDLY an elitist view – it is a FACTUAL view. So pfft to your first point.
Never did I say I (or other people who do believe in a deity) are the saving grace of the world. Not stated, nor implied. In fact, we as humans can do NOTHING to ‘earn’ our way to heaven. So pfft – to your second point.
And i was clearly NOT shoving religion down anyones throat. So, pfft to your third point.
And as for outcasting anyone?? Umm – sorry, you are not gonna label me with that one. It is the sinners and the protatues and the tax collectors (IE dispised) that Christ hung out with. I follow that lead. I do not ‘dress up’ for God and try to impress anyone. I am a slimebag and God knows it. Nor do I (try) to judge others by their clothes or their education or their status in life or their color/orientation/smell……. So pfft to your final point and pfft to you. Clearly it is YOU that has an issue.
Now – I will drop this cuz i am NOT trying to be some nut screaming through a bullhorn warning you of the end of times. That is YOUR decision on how you want to deal with it. I can not help you and more than you can help me.
PEACE to all.
@ Freak do you think that followers of a religion are defined by their faith or would religion exist without anyone to believe. Religion is big business around the world. Most of the religious institutions I know of are very powerful organisations. People say I’m generally depraved (I probably am) but their religion wouldn’t have existed if it were not for people like that who were prepared to die for their cause whilst they hid behind their self serving moral values. We made the sacrifice whilst they reaped the rewards with our lives and our money. Why should they be allowed to define whether or not someone is good or bad in accordance with their own interpretation of a manuscript. They are always going to criticise because they are mostly unfulfilled human beings.
I’m in moderation but by the time I order my next beer that is likely to change
moderation is fine…. but only if you do it in…..
nevermind.
Leaving a beer unattended is a serious form of alcohol abuse
Why did you come on and then leave?! @freak
make mine a brandy sour or a tom collins and we can talk………..
🙂
From what I remember your not old enough to be drinking so I’m going to order you something that looks like coke.
Please! I want to talk to you!
Maybe you two should talk and settle your differences.
lol – duke – i probably have underwear older than you.
Now fillerup. and as for the other conversation going on…. beat the hell out of me what that is about.
Really, that’s nothing to be ashamed of. You can get a lot of bargains at charity shops
*fills up freaks cup* now get your ass in chat
Err…. I just got it in my head that you were a youngster. I dont think we’ve ever spoken to each other
funny Duke…. okay for clarity sake….. I am WAAAAY old enough to drink in any state in the US of A
Better do as she says. Chat is the place to be. It’s like a nightclub thats has a vibe that everyone wants to get in. I want to get in too but I keep getting asked for ID.
Thank you Duke. See? “Better do as she says”
Even in Utah!
baaa… i am too old for nightclubs. bass is too loud and the drinks are watered down.
Guess i will just stay home and polish my fake teeth and look forward to the next colon exam.
You are being a baby. Come on. There is tiny chat. Its fun. Please James?
I don’t really go to those places much these days. People only go there to meet hot girls and it costs a lot to get girls drunk and seduce them. There are much cheaper alternatives.
<<< King of strikeouts for that activity. Since have taken my ball and went home.
Guess i just sucked at the game. So in yet another topic – I am truely useless.
Ha god. Who is god? What has he done for us? He created us and then left us alone. Ifhe exist he has abandonned us long ago. He say the future for us and simply gave up. You can pray to him, hell hear,but he cant do nothing. Cause god dont have any powers anymore. He lets us die, he lets uskill our selves and destroy to this planet. You shouldnt depend on god to save you.
Not really. There are lots of ways to have a good time. If you learn hypnosis.
I am cheap and I don’t get drunk very often. Oh and I don’t need to get drunk to get seduced.
That’s good to know DR. You can call me in about 10 yrs!
I’m sure we all have issues which is why we find our way here so I don’t mind that view :).
It’s fine, need something to stir my mind while in school :).
hypnosis….. AHHHH that explains a lot. Now i understand why the girls liked my friends – but I was dog shit. Clearly they were using it.
Just my luck. Didnt find out the secret until i was a fossil
Haha ok Duke. In 10 years. And Freak=chat= NOW!
When I was a student there was an event at the SU bar called hypnodog. It was one of the most bizarre things I had ever seen. I didn’t volunteer but the ones that did were completely under his control. At the end he brought out a dog and when they looked into it’s eyes they collapsed on the floor. Weird. It’s was that day on that I realised that learning hypnotism would make me a god. I still haven’t got the hang of it though. When ever I use my Jedi mind tricks people just turn around and say ‘you got that from star wars didn’t you’ I’m like yeah 🙁