But presumably you at least like looking forward to being unconscious. Would it not be better to stay alive, sleep some of the time and be able to appreciate it than to die and never again be able to feel even that?
It obviously depends on how much pleasure you get versus how much pain you suffer. Or do you think that one second’s worth of pleasure is worth a lifetime of pain? Do you?
I also look forwards to going to sleep and never waking up, I recently found out one of my friends passed away in her sleep she had a heart problem no one knew about. She was only 18 I couldn’t help but think I wish it was me instead! so I’m trying to say your not alone in how you feel.
No but I highly doubt anyone’s life, past or potential future, can truly be accurately rendered to those terms, whatever people themselves might think. Now I’d be the first to acknowledge that I don’t/can’t understand exactly what other people are going through. I’m sure that many suffer from truly unbearable and unavoidable pain brought on by circumstance outside their control. However I also believe that probably far more people are troubled by pain and a need to kill themselves brought on by perceptions of things that they subconsciously choose to accept and mistake for objective fact. Despite what you may feel, in all likelihood your future will not be anywhere near as bad as you imagine. Note that De4d has not given much indication (in this post at least) as to what pain troubles him/her. I can only express my own experience/thinking which says that a life of ‘bad’ experiences with the remote possibility of even minor future pleasant experience (which there always is) is better than the permanent total incapacity that is death.
I disagree. Death is better than a life of bad experiences with a remote possibility of minor future pleasant experiences.
The point is that subconsciously… you don’t choose. You react via conditioning and automatic behaviors. Changing these is like trying to alter the shape of a piece of metal with a plastic fork.
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You won’t be able to love it or anything else when you’re dead. I don’t recomend it.
I don’t need to love, nor do I need to be loved.
But presumably you at least like looking forward to being unconscious. Would it not be better to stay alive, sleep some of the time and be able to appreciate it than to die and never again be able to feel even that?
It obviously depends on how much pleasure you get versus how much pain you suffer. Or do you think that one second’s worth of pleasure is worth a lifetime of pain? Do you?
I also look forwards to going to sleep and never waking up, I recently found out one of my friends passed away in her sleep she had a heart problem no one knew about. She was only 18 I couldn’t help but think I wish it was me instead! so I’m trying to say your not alone in how you feel.
No but I highly doubt anyone’s life, past or potential future, can truly be accurately rendered to those terms, whatever people themselves might think. Now I’d be the first to acknowledge that I don’t/can’t understand exactly what other people are going through. I’m sure that many suffer from truly unbearable and unavoidable pain brought on by circumstance outside their control. However I also believe that probably far more people are troubled by pain and a need to kill themselves brought on by perceptions of things that they subconsciously choose to accept and mistake for objective fact. Despite what you may feel, in all likelihood your future will not be anywhere near as bad as you imagine. Note that De4d has not given much indication (in this post at least) as to what pain troubles him/her. I can only express my own experience/thinking which says that a life of ‘bad’ experiences with the remote possibility of even minor future pleasant experience (which there always is) is better than the permanent total incapacity that is death.
that was in response to hadIdhjf
I disagree. Death is better than a life of bad experiences with a remote possibility of minor future pleasant experiences.
The point is that subconsciously… you don’t choose. You react via conditioning and automatic behaviors. Changing these is like trying to alter the shape of a piece of metal with a plastic fork.
@live4xp’s 2nd comment: No.
(I can’t seem to reply properly.)