There is no point of living at all. We’re here because two people had sex and forced this life on us.
However, people make up their own reasons for living. For me I like science and dream of space travel. Though I realize it probably won’t happen in my lifetime.
I also love girls/women and sex…I have other interests as well and I think that’s what keeps me going.
I wish I had a better life-I really dislike my parents for creating me, but I would say they are still better parents that most parents out there and are more attractive and intelligent. But still my life sucks and that’s why I’m suicidal.
Deep isnt the quote ‘i think therefore i am’ maybe thats the point we are just here to wonder why we are here problem is we are the only animal that consciously knows we are going to die dont see many cases of suicide in animal kingdom outside humans though i do think my pet budgie did he hung himself from his bell
Well you could equally ask what’s the point of wishing to die when that is the ONE and only thing in this lifetime guaranteed to happen to you.
There is no discernable single purpose to living, at least certainly not one that all of humanity has agreed on.
As lostnz said above, we are the only creatures that really have the intellect to think about why we’re here, where we came from, or where we’re going, and a lot of times that can really seem like a curse. It must be nice to be an animal and just exist, live your life based on instinct, and die when the time comes.
The only purpose I can think of is to find peace and happiness for yourself, and equally if not more so try to provide those same things for other people while you are here. We’re all stuck on this rock together and none of us asked to be here. We all suffer from the same things to varying degrees. Sometimes the most you can accomplish in a day is to know that you held a door open for somebody or made someone smile.
We’ll probably never know why we are here. The idea of “purpose” is likely just a human construct anyway. No other form of life wastes time asking why it exists.
Nicely put spiritdying its useless asking why we are here never going to get a straight answer only one close is survival of the species maybe we will get lucky and be reincarnated as a bear or something who knows only decent question is di i want to be here at least that we can answer and try take control of
“Sometimes the most you can accomplish in a day is to know that you held a door open for somebody or made someone smile.”
This resonates with me so well, along with the whole of your fourth paragraph.
But I guess the fact that we’ll all end up dead one day, is the reason why we should all live our lives to the fullest. We’ll only walk this Earth, live this life, once, and once only, so I guess we should try and make the most out of it. YOLO, right? You Only Live Once. As much as people hate the term, it does hold some truth. Just that people sometimes use it for all the wrong reasons. Reckless behaviour, etc.
But anyhow, last week, in English class, we watched a speech by Steve Jobs (you can watch it on YouTube yourself), his commencement speech at Stanford University in 2005. The following extract in particular, left me with some deep thoughts:
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When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: “If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you’ll most certainly be right.” It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: “If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?” And whenever the answer has been “No” for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.
Remembering that I’ll be dead soon is the most important tool I’ve ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure – these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn’t even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor’s code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you’d have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.
I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I’m fine now.
This was the closest I’ve been to facing death, and I hope it’s the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.
Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.
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Of course, when I read “No one wants to die”, in that second last paragraph, I immediately disagreed. As I watched the video, it made me think about myself, my life, my future. The fact that he died 6 years after this speech, after saying “This was the closest I’ve been to facing death, and I hope it’s the closest I get for a few more decades.”, was sad.
But yeah. I’m still depressed and everything, just not as much right now, as I type this, and when I heard the speech.
It’s conflicting, really. Sometimes I have some hope, like right now.
This is my first comment here, just signed up, but I’ve lurked for a bit. I guess this is a little too long? I’ll probably make my first post in a few days, of my life story.
If you are suffering and you consider that suffering to be in vain then I suppose there isn’t really much point. I think the purpose of life is to have fun or find ways to have fun.
Purpose is reason, and reason must be assigned by the individual based on their desires, rationality and innate needs. Purpose is flexible term because it’s defined ultimately by the individual who is seeking purpose. If you want to see life in the angle you’ve stated here you could say, what is the point of anything? Why should I tie my shoelaces if I’ll just have to untie them? Why should I eat if I’m just going to get hungry again? Why should I indulge in something I enjoy if I’m just going to get bored again? The reason for those each have a different purpose. Life’s purpose is defined however you want to define it. If you don’t want it to have a purpose, it won’t have one. It’s as simple as that. If you want life to have a purpose you’ll give it one by creating goals, pursuing interests and striving your best to enjoy the beauties of life and the Earth itself. Your life is defined by you and you alone. Experience influences your thoughts, but it’s your decision how you choose to view the world. (Perspective is much different than circumstance though)
As commented prior, there is no point to life, life was created because the universe had the right ingredients and the Earth had the right environment. Some say it was lucky that there was a place so perfectly suitable for life to inhabit. I’ll paraphrase Douglas Adams by saying that the Earth isn’t perfect for us, we’re perfect for the Earth. I don’t think the point of life is to continually reproduce, I think it’s to keep progressing until we’ve hit a pinnacle of existence. Now I don’t believe there’s a high power or a “plan” for us as a species, progress is the only thing that has remained consistent in our history, we’ve evolved our intellect, resources and technology all throughout history and with each invention we become a little more modern. Progress is built upon generations of findings and intelligent figures, with each generation our species becomes that much more advanced. It makes sense to me that the whole point of generations is to continue progress. There’s no divinity involved though, progress is just a byproduct of intelligence, and as long as humans remain intelligent (collectively) there will be progress.
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There is no point of living at all. We’re here because two people had sex and forced this life on us.
However, people make up their own reasons for living. For me I like science and dream of space travel. Though I realize it probably won’t happen in my lifetime.
I also love girls/women and sex…I have other interests as well and I think that’s what keeps me going.
I wish I had a better life-I really dislike my parents for creating me, but I would say they are still better parents that most parents out there and are more attractive and intelligent. But still my life sucks and that’s why I’m suicidal.
That’s the question I would most like answered; definitively.
Deep isnt the quote ‘i think therefore i am’ maybe thats the point we are just here to wonder why we are here problem is we are the only animal that consciously knows we are going to die dont see many cases of suicide in animal kingdom outside humans though i do think my pet budgie did he hung himself from his bell
Well you could equally ask what’s the point of wishing to die when that is the ONE and only thing in this lifetime guaranteed to happen to you.
There is no discernable single purpose to living, at least certainly not one that all of humanity has agreed on.
As lostnz said above, we are the only creatures that really have the intellect to think about why we’re here, where we came from, or where we’re going, and a lot of times that can really seem like a curse. It must be nice to be an animal and just exist, live your life based on instinct, and die when the time comes.
The only purpose I can think of is to find peace and happiness for yourself, and equally if not more so try to provide those same things for other people while you are here. We’re all stuck on this rock together and none of us asked to be here. We all suffer from the same things to varying degrees. Sometimes the most you can accomplish in a day is to know that you held a door open for somebody or made someone smile.
We’ll probably never know why we are here. The idea of “purpose” is likely just a human construct anyway. No other form of life wastes time asking why it exists.
Nicely put spiritdying its useless asking why we are here never going to get a straight answer only one close is survival of the species maybe we will get lucky and be reincarnated as a bear or something who knows only decent question is di i want to be here at least that we can answer and try take control of
There isn’t a point. We are atoms within existence experiencing life.
We create that for themselves.
^^^ourselves*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life
one even says: “meaning of life is to find meaning of life”. not that it isn’t logical, but it made me laugh..
“Sometimes the most you can accomplish in a day is to know that you held a door open for somebody or made someone smile.”
This resonates with me so well, along with the whole of your fourth paragraph.
But I guess the fact that we’ll all end up dead one day, is the reason why we should all live our lives to the fullest. We’ll only walk this Earth, live this life, once, and once only, so I guess we should try and make the most out of it. YOLO, right? You Only Live Once. As much as people hate the term, it does hold some truth. Just that people sometimes use it for all the wrong reasons. Reckless behaviour, etc.
But anyhow, last week, in English class, we watched a speech by Steve Jobs (you can watch it on YouTube yourself), his commencement speech at Stanford University in 2005. The following extract in particular, left me with some deep thoughts:
~~~~~~~~
…
When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: “If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you’ll most certainly be right.” It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: “If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?” And whenever the answer has been “No” for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.
Remembering that I’ll be dead soon is the most important tool I’ve ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure – these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn’t even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor’s code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you’d have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.
I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I’m fine now.
This was the closest I’ve been to facing death, and I hope it’s the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.
Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.
…
~~~~~~~
Of course, when I read “No one wants to die”, in that second last paragraph, I immediately disagreed. As I watched the video, it made me think about myself, my life, my future. The fact that he died 6 years after this speech, after saying “This was the closest I’ve been to facing death, and I hope it’s the closest I get for a few more decades.”, was sad.
But yeah. I’m still depressed and everything, just not as much right now, as I type this, and when I heard the speech.
It’s conflicting, really. Sometimes I have some hope, like right now.
This is my first comment here, just signed up, but I’ve lurked for a bit. I guess this is a little too long? I’ll probably make my first post in a few days, of my life story.
Today the meaning of life… the point is blueberry pancakes
that and maybe a bit more sleep.
@Roak pancakes today, waffles yesterday what is on the menu tomorrow?
If you are suffering and you consider that suffering to be in vain then I suppose there isn’t really much point. I think the purpose of life is to have fun or find ways to have fun.
Purpose is reason, and reason must be assigned by the individual based on their desires, rationality and innate needs. Purpose is flexible term because it’s defined ultimately by the individual who is seeking purpose. If you want to see life in the angle you’ve stated here you could say, what is the point of anything? Why should I tie my shoelaces if I’ll just have to untie them? Why should I eat if I’m just going to get hungry again? Why should I indulge in something I enjoy if I’m just going to get bored again? The reason for those each have a different purpose. Life’s purpose is defined however you want to define it. If you don’t want it to have a purpose, it won’t have one. It’s as simple as that. If you want life to have a purpose you’ll give it one by creating goals, pursuing interests and striving your best to enjoy the beauties of life and the Earth itself. Your life is defined by you and you alone. Experience influences your thoughts, but it’s your decision how you choose to view the world. (Perspective is much different than circumstance though)
As commented prior, there is no point to life, life was created because the universe had the right ingredients and the Earth had the right environment. Some say it was lucky that there was a place so perfectly suitable for life to inhabit. I’ll paraphrase Douglas Adams by saying that the Earth isn’t perfect for us, we’re perfect for the Earth. I don’t think the point of life is to continually reproduce, I think it’s to keep progressing until we’ve hit a pinnacle of existence. Now I don’t believe there’s a high power or a “plan” for us as a species, progress is the only thing that has remained consistent in our history, we’ve evolved our intellect, resources and technology all throughout history and with each invention we become a little more modern. Progress is built upon generations of findings and intelligent figures, with each generation our species becomes that much more advanced. It makes sense to me that the whole point of generations is to continue progress. There’s no divinity involved though, progress is just a byproduct of intelligence, and as long as humans remain intelligent (collectively) there will be progress.
That’s like asking: “What’s the point in eating, if you just shit it out in the end?”
Hopefully, the ride in itself carries some value. Though today my ride seems only to hold suffering.