David Foster Wallace, Virginia Wolfe, Kurt Cobain, Hemingway..I have been looking at all their art. Trying to tap into their pain and their eventual courage. I encourage people to do the same. Try to look at the creations of those that have gone before us. So do any of you have a “favorite” famous suicider? A famous note that you liked? A persons last tweet that is exactly how you feel? A poem? A song? Share it here. They are either our trail blazing role models or our cautionary tales.
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I’ve never actually read Sylvia Plath’s The Bell Jar. I’ve got so much time to waste now, I think I might.
So… did you just preclude anyone from responding, and then ask for opinions? I think you did. Honestly, the tone and feel of your post kinda creeps me out. Weirdo.
I’ve read The Bell Jar. Apropos.
“To the person in the bell jar, blank and stopped as a dead baby, the world itself is a bad dream.â€
Aaron Swartz. The poor guy. I would have easily been friends with someone like him.
I was shocked when I learned about Gary Speed’s suicide.
Clever, its just an title. Like whenever you read “Was Einstein Wrong.” Just an attention grabber. Youre here, so obviously it worked. And I would expect people to be disturbed when trying to follow the pathways of my mind. They are not friendly meanderings even for me.
@Persephone, thats why I encourage people to look! To find kinship. Will in Good Will Hunting says he has several soul mates and proceeds to list famous dead intellectuals. I read David Wallace and about his last moments and I weep because I know exactly how he felt. But knowing the feeling, I know we could have been best friends….but it still would not have made a damn bit of difference.
Aaron Swarz was an intellectual and a genius. And for that the world felt the need to destroy him. Our ages Howard Roark.
Sylvia Plath. Always fascinating. Seems women are less likely to commit suicide (or at least be successful). Some studies say men are 5 times more likely to commit suicide. Anyone have an explanation?
I doubt there are less suicidal women. Men are just more likely be successful because they are better at killing themselves.
Yeah man, I read that woman are more feminine and less aggressive to the very end. That they go for more “peaceful” methods and ones that are less likely to disfigure themselves. Unfortunately these are typically less effective (posioning, drowning)……that sounds like a plausible explanation but damn it sounds sexist! Haha
“Anyone have an explanation?”
Mmm… men are better? I guess? (lol)
It probably has something to do with our utilitarian nature, and the fact that we “typically” understand force and physical destruction more intuitively, and also due to having more experience (again, typically; women can certainly achieve equivalent destructive capacity, but due to the way the world works, it is less common).
Thinking into text. There are likely numerous reasons for whatever statistic you can dig up, not all of which are adequately represented.
Men are better at killing themselves, IMO, because they are generally better at killing each other as well. Sound sexist? (lol). For the most part women are not just taught to be more nurturing but having had both girls and a boy seem to fulfill what we expect without our actually expressing that desire.
At VERY young ages girls start cuddling their dolls, boys make their cars crash with noises of explosions. In argument of nature vs. nurture you need only watch a young child play for a while to see why men are “better” at killing themselves.
Heath Ledger…suicide: yes or no?
Tough to say. I’ve read he had a breakdown preparing/playing the Joker in the Batman movie. Also read he had a lot of difficulties sleeping and his mind was racing all the time.
Heath Ledger. I fucking miss that guy. He was brilliant as the Joker, and otherwise, he truly was one of those actors who disappeared into their roles. Not many like him. I was so saddened when the news of his passing came about. It probably was suicide. Such a shame. Wish I could go back and give him a hug. Corey Monteith, too (although his death seems to have been more of an accidental drug/alcohol overdose). Sometimes I wonder how all these people who were so beloved have died “accidentally,” and yet I’m still here. Not many would miss me if I went, that’s for sure. Somebody else I greatly miss is the iconic film critic Roger Ebert – I literally cried when I knew of his death. He was an incredible man. His death was caused by health complications, not suicide. I still can’t believe he’s gone… I never met him but it felt like losing a dearly beloved friend or family member. *sniffles*
“wHY sO sEriouS!? HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!”
Best Joker Ever. (but Nicholson was no slouch either)
Nicholson was great too, yeah. I met a guy once who was the literal doppelgänger of Jack Nicholson. American, wealthy, a CEO, he looked exactly like him and spoke exactly like him. It was weird. I wonder if they ever met each other.
One of my uncles bore a close resemblance to him, and many “the shining” references were made. lol.
Hehe, that’s funny. I have that one in my Stanley Kubrick collection, but I haven’t gotten around to viewing it yet. I’ve been planning to read the book first, and I don’t think I could manage to watch the movie on my own. I’m a bit of wimp when it comes to horror films, ashamedly enough.
http://www.google.com/search?q=nicholson+ledger&safe=off&client=ms-android-americamovil-us&hl=en&source=android-browser-type&v=134000000&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=JhSPUt_EFY6qkAf0pICIBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAA&biw=320&bih=508#biv=i%7C2%3Bd%7ChFazcjstGFYVXM%3A
Hahahahaha Why so serious?
Brittany Murphy. Out of left field. I mean, she was not a genius or even massively influential but we are on the subject of actors. And it was definitely a “what the…..huh” moment. And I miss Ebert too. I read his column every wednesday.