Why don’t I ever get loved in return? Why aren’t I called someone’s soul mate? Why do I love so deeply with everyone and get loved by no one? Don’t you see I need love too? Maybe everyone will love me when I’m no longer here…
Cleavername, you are correct. I guess I was speaking in general terms not absolute terms. You sound like a skeptic. I’m a big time skeptic so I appreciate your post.
The soulmate myth is just that, a myth. You are your own best friend. That doesn’t mean that you cannot find love from others, but if others don’t come along in a timely manner, a dog or a cat will love you like no one else can. The romantic notion of love is unstable, not secure. Real love goes much deeper. You will find love but not the fantasy kind you presently seek.
I am skeptical, but i don’t necessarily subscribe to the idea of identifying with the group which claims the label “skeptics.” I’ve seen some pretty questionable behavior passed off as “skeptical.” Doubting whether water is actually wet, or fire is actually hot (just examples to make a point), is not what i call “valid skepticism.” You can touch water and fire and discover that there is no need to doubt their intrinsic physical properties.
Some things cannot be tested (“someone will love you”), and yet, people insist on making claims they cannot substantiate. This is when skepticism is almost necessarily valid. It seems absurd to just default to believing any completely unsubstantiated claim… unless there are indirect indications that such a claim could actually be true, despite it being untestable.
lol. I like how you come off as even more cynical than i… which i sometimes forget is even possible, due to the reactions my writings seem to provoke among SP’s users.
I kinda feel like “the fed” already owns everything, even if they only potentially own everything, and don’t /actually/ own everything quite yet. I think there’s probably some strategy in that: if they own “everything,” people will freak out. They have to try not to make it so obvious; it’s okay if a few of us get it, because we can be marginalized with disinformation and discrediting campaigns… but they can’t allow a critical mass to be reached, or their system can be significantly disrupted by revolt, or even collapse entirely. Plus, if we push too hard, they’ll just dump their dollars and stakes in our economy, and flee to one of likely many foreign safe havens, while delivering a death blow to our economy, and thus, our “way of life,” in the process.
Hmm… maybe pushing that hard isn’t such a bad idea…
Cleaver name, it’s not very logical to claim not to be a skeptic because things are done in the name of skepticism that aren’t logical. I’m sure you know that. I am not a very big conspiracy theorist. I’m not a trusting lamb either. I just don’t think you can keep big scary bad guys a secret. I do call myself a skeptic and with that I just mean I am dedicated to believing in what is true. Not what I want to be true but what is true and I use science to to figure that out the best I can. I think you read to deep into my comments like there is someone for everyone… in general I think that’s tree. I say a 600 lb check that hooked up with a blind guy and they both live off of their disability. One example but you don’t get more extreme than that.
Not all big bad wolves are visibly big and bad. Some of them look very normal, and are even nice to people they aren’t targeting. It is absolutely possible to keep secrets.
This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me disinclined to Call myself a skeptic, despite the fact that i do often employ skepticism in my assessment of any seemingly questionable scenario.
“Skeptics” seem to have developed a tendency to be skeptical of things that show significant probability, rather than applying it where it’s more needed, like with theology.
If you want to call yourself “a skeptic,” then you need to just erase the word “believe” from your vocabulary. Belief is a trick, even if you say that you only want to “believe what is true.” If you know something to be true, it’s not the same as “belief.” The only way “belief” is relevant at that point, is in trusting your senses and your methods of interpreting the data they stream to your brain. You have to “believe” that your senses are streaming valid information… and even that is legitimately questionable, to an extent.
If you say “there is someone for everyone”
It does not require “deep reading into” for me to know that is almost certainly incorrect. All i have to do is take it at face value, and compare it to observable reality. Many people do not have someone. Many people lived and died without ever having a someone. Many people are unable to find a someone, whether or not that someone even exists.
So, to say “there is someone for everyone” is wrong on multiple levels, even if some people do have a someone.
What i meant, before, is that there are people claiming the label of “skeptic,” but are misrepresenting and popularizing a skewed and invalid idea of “skepticism.” I can’t condone or endorse that, but they have corrupted the socially accepted meaning of that word. So… i’m the “real” skeptic, while so many others who call themselves such a thing, are actually very mistaken, and are causing others to become mistaken, due to observing the actions and behaviors of “false-skeptics.” I won’t voluntarily identify myself with that particular sub-culture, because i’d rather not deal with being exposed to the stigmatic reactions of the so-called “anti-skeptics.”
So, yes, it is actually very logical for me to not want to identify myself in such a way that will cause many people to misunderstand my position due to what they think that label means. I won’t identify with what that label has been made to mean. I do identify with what it was originally intended to mean… but then we get into “lexical dissonance,” and that’s a whole palate of cases of cans of worms.
A nation of renters, nothing will happen because nothing ever happens. The most sacrilegious among us will levitate this pork chop until everyone is broke and disenfranchised. The fed could chase its tail until it chokes on itself but it doesn’t matter much anymore because we have technology and Panera Bread.
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Someone will love you. There’s totally someone for everyone. If you decide to end it the chances are that you won’t exist in any meaningful way.
Oh and I agree. Life isn’t fair in any way. Nothing about it is fair.
dont beg for a relationship. Just be open to one if thats what you want.
you will meet a partner when you least expect it.
(hopefully a good one).
“Someone will love you.”
Unknowable.
“There’s totally someone for everyone.”
False.
The rest was fine.
clevername, stop being so damn pessimistic. The fed now owns fully a third of the bond market… rejoice!
Cleavername, you are correct. I guess I was speaking in general terms not absolute terms. You sound like a skeptic. I’m a big time skeptic so I appreciate your post.
The soulmate myth is just that, a myth. You are your own best friend. That doesn’t mean that you cannot find love from others, but if others don’t come along in a timely manner, a dog or a cat will love you like no one else can. The romantic notion of love is unstable, not secure. Real love goes much deeper. You will find love but not the fantasy kind you presently seek.
I am skeptical, but i don’t necessarily subscribe to the idea of identifying with the group which claims the label “skeptics.” I’ve seen some pretty questionable behavior passed off as “skeptical.” Doubting whether water is actually wet, or fire is actually hot (just examples to make a point), is not what i call “valid skepticism.” You can touch water and fire and discover that there is no need to doubt their intrinsic physical properties.
Some things cannot be tested (“someone will love you”), and yet, people insist on making claims they cannot substantiate. This is when skepticism is almost necessarily valid. It seems absurd to just default to believing any completely unsubstantiated claim… unless there are indirect indications that such a claim could actually be true, despite it being untestable.
@fro-not-so-zen:
lol. I like how you come off as even more cynical than i… which i sometimes forget is even possible, due to the reactions my writings seem to provoke among SP’s users.
I kinda feel like “the fed” already owns everything, even if they only potentially own everything, and don’t /actually/ own everything quite yet. I think there’s probably some strategy in that: if they own “everything,” people will freak out. They have to try not to make it so obvious; it’s okay if a few of us get it, because we can be marginalized with disinformation and discrediting campaigns… but they can’t allow a critical mass to be reached, or their system can be significantly disrupted by revolt, or even collapse entirely. Plus, if we push too hard, they’ll just dump their dollars and stakes in our economy, and flee to one of likely many foreign safe havens, while delivering a death blow to our economy, and thus, our “way of life,” in the process.
Hmm… maybe pushing that hard isn’t such a bad idea…
Cleaver name, it’s not very logical to claim not to be a skeptic because things are done in the name of skepticism that aren’t logical. I’m sure you know that. I am not a very big conspiracy theorist. I’m not a trusting lamb either. I just don’t think you can keep big scary bad guys a secret. I do call myself a skeptic and with that I just mean I am dedicated to believing in what is true. Not what I want to be true but what is true and I use science to to figure that out the best I can. I think you read to deep into my comments like there is someone for everyone… in general I think that’s tree. I say a 600 lb check that hooked up with a blind guy and they both live off of their disability. One example but you don’t get more extreme than that.
Not all big bad wolves are visibly big and bad. Some of them look very normal, and are even nice to people they aren’t targeting. It is absolutely possible to keep secrets.
This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me disinclined to Call myself a skeptic, despite the fact that i do often employ skepticism in my assessment of any seemingly questionable scenario.
“Skeptics” seem to have developed a tendency to be skeptical of things that show significant probability, rather than applying it where it’s more needed, like with theology.
If you want to call yourself “a skeptic,” then you need to just erase the word “believe” from your vocabulary. Belief is a trick, even if you say that you only want to “believe what is true.” If you know something to be true, it’s not the same as “belief.” The only way “belief” is relevant at that point, is in trusting your senses and your methods of interpreting the data they stream to your brain. You have to “believe” that your senses are streaming valid information… and even that is legitimately questionable, to an extent.
If you say “there is someone for everyone”
It does not require “deep reading into” for me to know that is almost certainly incorrect. All i have to do is take it at face value, and compare it to observable reality. Many people do not have someone. Many people lived and died without ever having a someone. Many people are unable to find a someone, whether or not that someone even exists.
So, to say “there is someone for everyone” is wrong on multiple levels, even if some people do have a someone.
What i meant, before, is that there are people claiming the label of “skeptic,” but are misrepresenting and popularizing a skewed and invalid idea of “skepticism.” I can’t condone or endorse that, but they have corrupted the socially accepted meaning of that word. So… i’m the “real” skeptic, while so many others who call themselves such a thing, are actually very mistaken, and are causing others to become mistaken, due to observing the actions and behaviors of “false-skeptics.” I won’t voluntarily identify myself with that particular sub-culture, because i’d rather not deal with being exposed to the stigmatic reactions of the so-called “anti-skeptics.”
So, yes, it is actually very logical for me to not want to identify myself in such a way that will cause many people to misunderstand my position due to what they think that label means. I won’t identify with what that label has been made to mean. I do identify with what it was originally intended to mean… but then we get into “lexical dissonance,” and that’s a whole palate of cases of cans of worms.
A nation of renters, nothing will happen because nothing ever happens. The most sacrilegious among us will levitate this pork chop until everyone is broke and disenfranchised. The fed could chase its tail until it chokes on itself but it doesn’t matter much anymore because we have technology and Panera Bread.