I can’t believe we are forced to be here. Forced to live. I believe every human being has his/her own right to end his/her life. It wasn’t my choice to be born, but I believe I should have the right to end it. It is MY life and it would be MY death. There are people out there taking their lives in horrible and painful ways, while it could be done in a peaceful way. It’s really not fair.
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I feel the exact same way. We all should be given the option to end our lives in a peaceful way
Correct. Just 1 pill to make us unconscious and die. I wish I was epileptic, then I could get me some ********
Epilepsy pills kill you ?
They put animal to sleep…horses to sleep if they break a leg. Humans are doomed to live whether they want to or not. maybe death by cop? Run into a police station, where there’s lots of guns, and wave your toy gun in the air like you’re some crazy nutcase.
I know! Even animals get the right to die, but humans don’t. I don’t live in the USA.. Here in Belgium they’ll just shoot you in the leg
Right..
I’ve been saying this for years. Why do you get locked up if you try to end your life. It’s YOUR life. Not anyone else’s. It’s not fair at all.
I agree with you lostallhope001, we are forced to live. I have been researching this quite a bit. This was challenging for me type up, so agree or disagree, I hope it at least makes sense.
In times past, in certain areas of the world, suicide seemed to be left up to individual prerogative . I have seen indications of this in both art and literature. Not everyone will agree with this but it sure looks this way to me.
There is a line of thought out there that tries to explain how this individual prerogative got changed. The thinking goes that many early Christians, from say about 30 AD to about 300 AD, were looking for martyrdom or just doing plain old suicide because they had been assured of heaven immediately upon death.
Before all this opting for death got started in large numbers, the reasoning goes, suicides had not been a significant drain on the populations in and around the Roman empire and so suicides nothing for any one in government or established religion to worry about.
What I have been reading is that once early Christians started offing themselves in serious numbers the catholic church and some others stepped in with some serious anti-suicide rhetoric (to the say the least) to slow the loss of life and the ideas are with us to this day in legal form. Dammit.
Like someone else in here said months ago, it would have to be regulated. There’d have to be a waiting period to weed out the people who might just be going through an unusually stressful time. Also to prove that you’ve already tried every possible treatment to mitigate the symptoms.
Agreed. Here we are blinded by our own pain, wishing there was an easy, cheap and painless way to push a button and die. But what are we saying? Every 8 year old kid would be dead after their first F in school. If suicide centers are made available to the general public there better be a damn good way of weeding out the impulsive & foolish, otherwise you’ll have the same problem that the USA has with people buying guns on a whim and shooting up random people. Death should not be made ‘convenient’. Honestly, if you want to kill yourself bad enough, you won’t give a shit whether it’s peaceful or not. I think the pain/fear of a messy painful death is a pretty good weed out factor. Suicide clinics might be good for people who are bedridden and physically unable. But the rest of us should have the guts to jump/hang/drown/shoot ourselves, otherwise maybe you don’t want it bad enough.
Well I think it should be available, just regulated. If you’re over the age of let’s say 25, don’t have a husband/wife/kids, unable to work a full-time job due to overlapping issues, no interest in being part of the rat race anyway, it would make more sense for it to be available instead of taking up resources.
This could open up a really good, objective discussion. What should the requirements for suicide be?
A few suicide organizations have been criticized because they impose heavy restrictions, like 60+ years old, or doctor-certified terminal illness. I think here we are mostly suicidal for mental suffering which would disqualify the lot of us. The question then is, how do you differentiate “serious” mental suffering from “just going through a phase” mental suffering?
For the record, I don’t think there’s a fair way to test everyone which is why I’m in favor of suicide the traditional (painful) ways. But maybe there’s a way to judge. I agree with age being 25 minimum because studies show the brain keeps growing until around 25, meaning there’s hope your outlook could change. Aside from that, it’s hard to quantify suicidal desire. I myself went through years of intense daily mental suffering, but I’m recovering, and now I only think about suicide once in a while. I would be a good example of someone who would’ve opted for a clinical suicide, but I’m glad I didn’t. If things get worse, I know there are plenty of opportunities to die quickly. Pain would be irrelevant if I get to that point.
Someone had it all mapped out a few months ago, but like they mentioned there’d have to be an evaluation process.
They’d see what treatments you’ve tried: Therapists, Prescription Meds, Alternative Treatments, Lifestyle Changes and how they either didn’t help or worsened the situation. You’d outline what day to day is like for you, also any history of previous attempts. If you were accepted, you wouldn’t have to go through with it but the option would be there just in case.
The problem with your doing it yourself theory is the low success rate. Our bodies are hard-wired to fight back which is why most of us are still on here. Also if you succeed, some normal person finds your body and has to deal with that for the rest of their lives.
That’s a good point, so many suicide attempts aren’t carefully planned so they lead to all sorts of permanent injury. Having a medical suicide procedure would cut down on impulsive failed attempts. Might even make people consider it more seriously as they talk to medical professionals and sign on the dotted line.
I agree with forcing people to try treatment. Might not do anything but again it will force people to take their own suicide seriously. I guess the whole idea behind “official” suicide is that it ensures people go through the proper procedures, which in turn might snap people out of a temporary depression. I know the Swiss suicide clinics are relatively new, but it’ll be interesting to see when studies are done how it impacts society there.
I don’t think it would attract the temporarily depressed people. It would probably attract people like a lot of us who are already dead inside and just lack a method.
Also, some people with depression won’t ever actually self-harm or try to take their lives. The bigger issue would be screening for people who just got out of a long-term relationship, lost their job or whatever the case may be. People that are normally in a better frame of mind and might be reacting to something unexpected.
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Meant to delete the first sentence.
I also agree with you that making suicide official might cut down on impulsive attempts from people who aren’t really sold on dying.