I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again. D.O.N.’.T–H.A.V.E–C.H.I.L.D.R.E.N. It’s not worth it, if not for you, definitely NOT FOR THEM. Life is a rip off and it isn’t even enjoyable. A world built to lever your very needs against you to create profits for those it rewards. From the moment you dump them into a school they’ll be programmed to be taken advantage of. And if you refuse to participate there’s no planet left for you to survive on anyway.
In fact the biggest reason parents have children at all is due to this programming. the system needs more subscribers. Any pyramid scheme will collapse if the steady flow of fodder to the bottom ceases. (Hence why abortion is banned by those whom the system feeds and there is little media coverage on overpopulation, and comparatively no effort by the system to improve children’s lives at all.)
Witless, indoctrinated and beaten down by the system, aspiring parents only have children in an attempt to relive the nostalgia of when they got to live the portion of life remotely worth remembering. Sometimes they push children out and force them to live out the lives they would rather have had, and make the decisions they wish they did.
All the while the parents, programmed, pass this idiocy down to their children and so forth, the same jaded competitions, life goals and aspirations. Hence our pseudo civilization that renders our technological achievement as pointless.
Have a kid and all you’re doing is giving another few million curreny units of tax (in the form of the kids future slog) to the people this system supports.
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Too many parents having children to “complete” themselves without giving a moments thought to the genetic nightmare they’re passing along to these unfortunate souls. What idiots we are. And I’m branded selfish for harboring suicidal desires, but would be openly encouraged to reproduce and transmit my mental health issues to my child.
I’ve spent most of my professional life looking after other people’s children, and you’re right on most scores. A parent can liberate their offspring, but it takes either luck or careful planning. I plan on looking after some more children down the line, hopefully some of my own,
however, I won’t do it unless there is hope for them. There’s no hope in this economy for wage earners, so having kids and assuming they’ll acquire enough skills to be financially secure is at best stunningly ignorant. I’m saving up for land, because land can be forever. You can survive entirely without an income provided low tax/high home productivity.
Right now it all comes down to IF I can cash out investments. Every cent of my working life has gone into this house. If I can sell it and get my equity out, I could be completely free. That thought coexists with the realistic possibility that due to economic pressures, I could fail to break even.
hope is such a conditional thing. If 80-90% of things go to plan, hope would be realistic. My experience is that at best 60% goes to plan for most people. That’s not hope, but it’s not despair either necessarily
I’m living for today, just trying to get by for now. At any point it all may come crashing down, and that is a scary reality to live with. Wouldn’t have a kid in this economy, but then again I wouldn’t be investing in any variable value investments.
it should also be noted; children provide substantial social benefits. Working in child welfare, I found out that parents are given MUCH more help than us poor childless folk. Easier jobs, places to live, food and health care. So maybe it works out, as an investment. Being childless is frustrating, but having children isn’t a life worth envying in most cases.
I forgot indeed, parents also have children as a form of investment, essentially a value product/asset in some cultures that they can sell off in a marriage contract. And as you said with the social benefits case, others ‘gift’ themselves with old age servants and government population expansion reward schemes.
Indeed. Modern society is just one giant ponzi scheme. It needs huge armies of children to prop up capitalism lest it collapses. Growth growth growth lest the beast dies.
Reproducing surely puts offspring at tremendous risk for trauma, pain, and hardship, possibly from day one, without any chance of giving their consent.
And without any means of escape, except a risky terrible death by their own hands which might actually fail and leave them worse off.
Then in the meantime you have religion lunatics, pro-lifers, anti-euthanasia activists forcing people to have kids they don’t want while trying to prevent people from escaping a bad existence using the medical field, which is the only one qualified to do it safely quickly and painlessly.
My fear as a kid was that I’d never progress and waste my years and only start getting it right when I’m older….unfortunately that’s what happened.
I didn’t want or work towards that future, but that’s where I ended up, because most of the ways I tried to escape my lot in life failed.
If I didn’t have some good family and friends keeping my life interesting and meaningful, then suicide for me would be the obvious and only option.
I still think about it all the time….because my life at this point is so worthless. Anything worth having takes effort…I need to get in shape, so that’s countless hours at the gym. If I want to make more money I need better skills to get the better job or have the right connections, then I have do that new shitty job.
The good thing is that I have a decent amount of savings. Once my mother passes away, I’ll do some travelling and partying, blow my cash and go out with a bang so to speak.
I don’t care about acquiring property or things anymore. I just want one last ‘hurrah’ before I check out.
Age matters, I’m 50 this year. If I was hitting 40…then I’d feel I still had some potential to get a better life.
I’m sick of the 9-5, the repetition, making half the money my friends make who are far more settled and established in life.
I can’t say it was a good run…my 20s and 30s were ok but I still missed out on a lot, busted my azz studying and it got me nowhere….wasted decades of my life.
While I’m buying some property soon, it just feels too little too late. Well I’ll go with my plan A, get my house then get fit, and find a partner. If I feel ‘happy’ then I’ll keep going.
If none of that satisfies me, then I’ll go with Plan B, which is to have a little fun and then end it. Also I feel I almost never get enough sleep so I look forward to the idea of sleeping forever.
The system has weaponised the fact that having any skill takes a human being an exorbitant amount of effort. The entire education industry makes billions off of people’s struggle to get skills to such a degree that one(1)(Uno) career can take a lifetime to master. This forces people into thousands of verticals in a form of further weaponised incompetence where mediocrity plagues our entire pseudo civilization.
Whomever has kids into this shitshow with the war, indoctrination, repetition, and social media singularity by technocratic dystopia, is utterly selfish.
As for ‘pro-lifers’ more like pro-birthers, they have been brainwashed into being soulless consumer animals with their spirituality hijacked by the great con (religion), and their ability to critically reason rendered inactive.
Everything inherently crap about life has been weaponised in fact, every vice, every need every desire of the heart, every aspect that makes us human has been tooled and repurposed to ensure our maximum output parameter.
If one is ‘pro-life’ they are pro-suffering, pro-sociopath, and pro- downright evil.
Well said TheG and I forgot to add great post above as well. You clearly stimulated a lot of minds.
I also agree there’s just far too much misery, bs, suffering, dangers in this world to bring kids into.
I make the exception for the middle and upper class who are able to hand down wealth to their children so that they don’t have to live a hard life.
Though in my particular situation, having had the experience of two difference cultures, living in different countries, I had a truly amazing and beautiful childhood.
Having settled in Canada being of lower middle-class background, I faced a lot of challenges that one probably doesn’t if they were born into a higher class.
That part is fine, I can tolerate the fact that I had a poor bkgd because it is possible for most people to climb out of that poverty and get higher up, if you play your cards right.
Which is what my friends and I did, except that unfortunately it didn’t work out for me. Not having enough money was always a problem and I missed out on so much. When I did have jobs, then I was busy working and not being able to have fun, otherwise I was studying.
There were other problems, running with a bad crowd in high school and other mistakes in my life that created other issues.
Anyways long story short, for me, life wasn’t worth living because I never got the things that I really wanted out of life.
Also for someone at my age, I should be more settled and looking at a good retirement rather than just trying to play catch up. I am glad that I didn’t end up having kids because that would’ve made their life as miserable as mine.
You’re also exactly right about pro-lifers I also call them ‘forced-birthers.’ They’re brainless morons who take a dumb idea “sanctity of life” and elevate it at the expense of everything else that’s more important.
To them all that matters is that women are baby factories, pumping out kids, no matter how defective they are and are forced to raise them. She’s broke, has no income, has personal issues? Doesn’t matter, you did the deed now you pay the price of raising this unwanted child for the next 20 years of your life or longer.
They’re insane, they hijacked (packed) the courts and now are forcing their lunacy on the vast majority-most of whom are sensible enough to know you need abortion to stay legal for many logical reasons like saving the life of the mother or in case of rape/incest.
Actually what we need is universal euthansia so people can check out of a bad life whenever they feel like. Besides why do we need 7 billion people? We were doing fine when there was just 100 million.
Like you also mentioned then there’s warfare. I don’t believe anyone has a right to harm me or anyone else. But if you find yourself in a war, you can easily die or suffer terribly before you do and what’s worse is you can end up being captured and tortured to death.
Imagine someone thinking they have the right to hurt you severely on a daily basis (leaving out the gory details)? No one should be able to do that to anyone. But that’s the kind of world we live in. Speaking of which I believe WW3 is coming, Islam is today’s Nazism….so get ready for the next big war people.
Life can be wonderful and great, but not if you don’t have good health or money or safety. It’s overrated and we should make ending our existence very easy to do.
You see? your story, that of another, even my story, they all have elements of anguish, whether by school trials, life decisions, social class, expectations upon us and by us, and for some disability, injury and missfortune. Life always has misery in abundant supply but has to be fought tooth and nail for just a glimpse of joy.
And money: foremost tool of the system that makes sure that life is just a bunch of stuff a person is not allowed to do. It has stolen our very potential to create memories.
Pro-forced-birthers indeed, but, every cult needs it’s extemists, and like a cult the entire monetary pseudo civilization imposes all kinds of ridiculous laws and mechanisms to force subscribership and once more, cult to the core, all subscribers are only there to serve the top of the pyramid.
The very reason most of us are born is because those at the top willed it so, we were never born for ourselves, we were born for them. Hence we are kept in various population pens called countries, schooled to work, and media/religion washed to shut down the mind. Certain pens and categories are then propagated then later receeded to create constant positive flux, hence the war in Ukraine, hence Islams turn to circle the globe and homogenise everyone into dormant zombies.
Planet Ponzi, the 10 000 year old con we were duped into calling a civilization.
@TheG,
Agreed…well another problem is women desperately wanting to have babies, no matter how bad their situation.
I know of girls who have wanted to have kids even with a job, stable home, spouse who’s working, etc.
Not to lay it at just their feet, there are also scummy guys who believe in spreading their seed, it’s a status thing to get many girls pregnant.
So when you have such morons who don’t plan for the future, who don’t have the basic understanding of how much it costs to have and raise kids, this is just another added layer of problems that kids have to deal with when they’re thrown into the world.
Which goes back to my point of having universal euthanasia. At least once a child is conscious and aware enough of their situation, would have the choice of ‘opting out.’ For instance I knew once I hit my teens I’d have a bad life.
However speaking for myself, my life could’ve been better if not for some mistakes that I made, so that’s on me (and some on my parents). But there is no point to live if you can’t have the life that you really want-it’s a wasted existence.
The forced-birther idiots are very likely middle-class or rich people who’ve never really suffered in life so they assume everyone is like them and they ignore the very real suffering of people in poverty who can’t afford to have or raise them.
Sadly since it is so hard to change the world for the better-everyone is really on their own in deciding when to end their lives. I think in time through hard work and esp. in more liberal countries, euthanasia will definitely become more accepted, but till then we’re on our own.
Correction: even without a job and they’ve gotten pregnant, then they bitched about it after, how they had no help and how hard it was. They’re morons and become a burden to their family also.