Somebody reported the posts from Biscuit of Death (it wasn’t us) to the UK Police. They followed up, found the individual, and got them into treatment. Before they left, they deleted their account and all of their posts.
Poor Biscuit. Unlike @caucajun32, I don’t believe Biscuit is safe in the hands of the mental health system. More likely he has had control over his body and mind completely stripped away. He’s probably lost access to every comfort of home and routine that has helped him keep going in spite of his suicidal feelings. Right now he could be in a situation where so-called medical “authorities” are telling him he is mentally incompetent to making his own treatment decisions, when we know from his many posts that he (she?) is an intelligent, caring and perceptive person with full reasoning faculties and a firm grip on reality. Who knows if he really ever intended to go through with suicide plans on 11/11/11? Searching through this site you will find other times when people were afraid Biscuit had kicked it, only to have him turn up again just fine. And if he did intend or try to commit suicide this time, he had clearly thought it through and made his own choice.
The fact that someone used Biscuit’s posts on this site to get him identified to police and then deleted their own posts and account shows an unbelievable arrogance and a true disregard for the autonomy and dignity of other human beings. I think it is despicable for people to troll a website like this and betray the trust of the community of users who come here to vent their feelings in safety. The mental health system has no scientifically validated methods of ending the personal suffering that leads people to consider suicide. What it does have is a long and ongoing history of harming the people it claims to help.
The result of this experience for Biscuit of Death is most likely going to be the loss of suicideproject.org as a trusted outlet for his feelings, now that he has been betrayed by someone on the site. And the sick thing is that person is probably using this site to feed their egos with a grandiose sense of purpose, and will congratulate themselves on having “saved a life” when there is no proof whatsoever that they did anything of the sort.
are you fucking me are you fucking me? Okay i know he had a little problems so did the rest of us. I know you wanna to save a life but report him isnt that a little to far. I know i would miss him more than anyone on here. But come on :c. I hope he ish okay tho. I will miss him :c.
@live free: ‘he (she?) is an intelligent, caring and perceptive person with full reasoning faculties and a firm grip on reality’
Really?! is that how you would really describe Biscuit???!!! How long have you been following his posts? The ‘firm grip on reality’ bit really made me laugh… you know he believes in the afterlife there will be a house full of everyone from SP.
Look, honestly no one knows what’s best for anyone really. But think about it. Biscuit gave himself amnesia by an attempted hanging. He’s also VERY deluded, whcih can be dangerous to himself, if not others. Maybe he does need physical restraint, at least in the short term.
So the authorities got to him? Well if the system in the UK is anything like it is in the US then its safe to say that they threw him into a psych-ward. Treatment? LOL Really?
This whole situation will probably make his mental state worse.
Biscuit needed to come to the realization that he wasn’t ready to die yet so he could start living. He didn’t need to be forced into a place against his will (as i am fairly sure he was).
i have too agree with onedaysays above, …….. most of you sound totally sane to me, so i must be frigging insane, lol.
yeah there were some things that sounded somewhat sane from biscuit, yet there is far more things that just weren’t right.
it is what it is.
I have been in nuthutz and brainfarms before and only the second to last one was bad, but all the others were pretty good as far as nutwards go.
I don’t think any here have a firm grip on reality, we see the world thru the eyes of depression and pain thus scewed.
What I see as reality no matter how much I believe its what I think it is its not reality as others see reality.
When I choose to leave, there will be no announcment to the community here I will just do it.
I think it best to keep particulars of date and times to myself.
I doubt we will hear from our friend Biscuit again even if he does get access.
Because like others have said he will never trust the site again.
I feel if youu want to help a person encourage them to look for themselves, do not report them.
Because now they are going to always keep waatch on the poor guy.
And pump him full of drugs that will probably make him worse off mentally.
Shows how free our free countries are when a person cannot even have the freedom to leave this world.
Sad things is the people that run the world cause a lot of the misery and they think that the best method is for citizens to just sck it up and deal.
Makes me all the more wise to not announce anywhere on the web when my time comes.
I’ll probably set up a delayed email to say goodbye to certain people who i respec tthough.
I do kind of agree with oneday and caucajun. Biscuit had been very worrying at times. He had a plan at one point to hammer a knife into his throat for crying out loud. Chances are if he goes to a psych unit it will only be for a week or so and then he’ll get picked up by a care team for treatment at home. I always felt he was someone who was crying out for help but too scared to ask rather than someone who actually really wanted to die. I’ll miss him though. Someone on here has his email address. Maybe they could drop him a line to say he has our thoughts and wish him well.
My theories on Biscuit:
He has a romantic fantasy of death. So it’s not really that he hates life so much. Its more that he considers death a safe, beautiful, majestic place. He considers death a gift that will soon be delivered to him. It is not a far leap to think that this logic of death being a gift could transfer from doing harm to yourself, to doing harm to others. Isn’t this mentality the thing that drives religious fanatics and suicide bombers and cults? That by killing people, you are ‘saving’ them from life? Delusion is potentially very dangerous to other people.
I didn’t really think that Biscuit was ready to suicide any time soon. His obsession with death was symptomatic of his Asbergers OCD tendencies. But he could never execute his plan, because to die would actually put an end to his ability to obsess, which his OCD would not allow. He was caught in a loop, and therefore, safe.
I don’t know if he was dangerous, but for sure he was deluded and very mentally ill. Looney bins are there not just to protect us from ourselves, but also protect us from other people. I am hoping for his sake, that he can learn something worthwhile in there.
HI all, that is me who was having those intense few moments w/ KR aka Biscuit and yes I have his email…I just got home from a 11 hour day at the firm, and he has been on my mind like since last night, since he went dark. I googled the BBC at work this morning to see if someone had killed themselves, figured if if were at school it would warrant attention. I saw nothing, and my heart was lightened, though thought he could be lying or maybe just chose another way. I am so glad he got help-NO it was not me that reported him. I would not even know how on earth to trace him, I looked up his real name which now I have, and there are 92 of the same name in the uk! I did not email him bc i wanted to respect his privacy and I was afraid of saying something that might provoke an action. He promised me he would think about what I said about him having youth and all and not being washed up, and he also promised he would post on Sunday. he is such a dear, sweet little thing and really I am well aware of his rants and raves, and the fact that he had VERY serious issues, that is why I chose not to get into a private dialogue with him in case he got pissed off or I said the wrong thing. Many times I was going to email, but still I didn’t. I hope he does get the help he needs, and I hope we do hear from him again, and I HOPE he doesn’t think it was me! LOL
Wow, so that kinda thing actually happens – things people write here actually get reported to the po-po… Dunno if that’s a good or bad thing…
Anyway I reckon biscuit will be ok. Last weekend I got detained and put into a psych ward… it was shit, and I can definitely say having been chewed up and spit out by the system that it does NOT work. Basically all they did for me was keep me fed (free food woohoo) and waited til I was calm enough to leave.
However, at least one good thing did come from it – I had a bunch of people huddled around me, at least for a while, asking me questions, and the interaction kinda woke me up from the haze of depression I was living in. While I don’t usually like dealing with any kind of authority, at least it was a change of pace and it kinda shook me up enough to notice the horrible rut I was in.
Now I’m not saying I’m cured by a longshot (in fact I’m still going to obtain the lethal drug I was looking for before I got detained – just as ‘insurance’), but I got some of the attention I needed and I think biscuit will at least have REAL people addressing his wishes to die instead of a bunch of phantoms on a message board giving hit and miss advice which I don’t think he really was paying attention to anyway.
They must have caught him trying to attemp suicide then.That’ the only way the Police or Mental health service can get you sectioned.They can’t do anything if you just say you are going to attempt.I was going to point out to him the other day
that someone might catch him cos he first posted what college he was going to then some days ago the time and date and even which toilets.Not clever really
another reason why we shouldnt post what method we are going to do. People will contact the police and they will come to where we are planning out suicide. Nothing is safe anymore.
I think B if he posted those things did so out of being young and stupid….
I hope he will be OK….I’m glad he got some intervention, I am of the opinion that someone under 25 or 30 has not lived enough to really know what they do and if they want to die. A lot of problems when you are young-excluding the usual abuse and mental issues-can seem overwhelming, peer pressure, self-lothing, not fitting in, some of that resolves itself, SOME not all, and to see if you really want to end it all, you need to carry that into adulthood. Anyway as Simon Cowell says, “Just and opinionnnnnn.”
Seriously, I found yesterday I did not get a job I was well qualified for and very bummed..(even more so). They check everything in background to high heaven, even email though I use an alias email, I am wondering if they found me posting on this site! NOTHING is anom anymore. Its sickening.
*If to say the truth, I felt sth happened that day..like it’d be better not try to reach him.
*That’s why it’s not a good idea to post your farewell letters here,
especially one week ago…
*I’m glad, I’m not from UK:)
@apthic, yup. But the site is supposed to be for people who need to reach out, the site is functioning as is meant to be, Sometimes people write letters and say things they can’t and they get better by letting it out, talking to people, when no one is around. I think it should NOT BE used against you. BUT he was a minor, and someone here was concerned enough about him (I was) to actually get the ball rolling. Thing is, what would keep me from going the next stop by ratting on and policing somone is we DON”T know if someone is talking sh&t or who the heck they are in realty.
So, his life’s saved for a while, nobody knows for how long(I’ve read a story about a person who hung himself in hospital) and…OK, I hope he’ll ever get better.
I hope so too. I hope he won’t come out the worse. I have never been committed, I am just very, very high strung and sensitive, but have been thinking maybe I ought to be bc I can’t cope w. all the dodgy balls coming my way. I guess I’m what you’d call a very “nervous” person, and my husband says “neurotic”, so if this were 1870, I’d suffer from the vapers and be laying around on a fainting couch all day, LOL
The worse or not it will depend on drugs, sometimes they’re the reason of suicide, too.
Just making a person to suffer n locking him won’t solve a problem in his soul.That’s it.
There is alot of anti medicine feelings here. I know we are a concentrated bunch which have been thru the medcince merry go round, yet if meds didn’t have a value this site would have millions of people here, not just the few it has.
Just because a person has a heart problem, doesn’t mean we don’t give them heart medicine that can be benificial, yet has some side effects that could be lethal.
SSRI’s make me think more clearly sometimes and the clarity extends to the reasons I want to committ suicide, thus crystalizing the thought that its ok to kill myself.
The right meds in the right dose’s, (which takes trial and error) take time to find the right combination. Drugs do not work for everybody.
I bet there are millions of people that are getting very good results from meds.
@cauajun: – well said. I’ll also point out that distrust of medicine and the hard sciences is a common theme with delusion and psychosis.
@LOLfailz – People give a shit about you. I personally don’t pay attention when people set dates anymore, because I’ve started to realize it’s just people being provocative for no realy reason, and I don’t want to encourage that kind of behaviour. Biscuit gets a lot of traffic on this site because he shows a lot of himself so people really connect to that. I’ve been on this site 5 months, and I know very little about you. You don’t seem to show much at all. So if you post you’re going to die, I wouldn’t respond because I don’t know you, so I wouldn’t know what to say that would help you. If you need attention or a connection (and lets face it, everyone does), then you need to start showing more of yourself and being more honest.
Hmm, Kieran/Biscuit of Death/the most popular man on SP, has been absent from this site for so long now. I wonder if he’s still alive and breathing out there somewhere.
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I’m new here, did biscuit blog here? Did he say anywhere that he chose today?
i havent heard from him since yesterday o. o
@whatelseisthere Says: ……. yes he has over the last few days and weeks announced that today would be the day.
Woah. Okay.
I’ve never met Biscut, or even read any of his blogs, but I hope that he is okay.
Isn’t he from the UK? Its 9:07 pm there now so its unusual that he hasn’t checked by in yet.
Somebody reported the posts from Biscuit of Death (it wasn’t us) to the UK Police. They followed up, found the individual, and got them into treatment. Before they left, they deleted their account and all of their posts.
WHAT? where is he now?
I suppose that’s one way to look after eachother.
I have no further information. I assume that if the person ever wants to come back and tell their story, they will do so in the future.
At least we know he is safe for now. Who knows Biscuit may be a future Prime Minister of England. God help the British Empire.
Im sad because Biscuit may never visit this site again.
Yeah .. It would be cool if one of us could rule some place.
I have no interest in “ruling” anything or anyone, lol.
Poor Biscuit. Unlike @caucajun32, I don’t believe Biscuit is safe in the hands of the mental health system. More likely he has had control over his body and mind completely stripped away. He’s probably lost access to every comfort of home and routine that has helped him keep going in spite of his suicidal feelings. Right now he could be in a situation where so-called medical “authorities” are telling him he is mentally incompetent to making his own treatment decisions, when we know from his many posts that he (she?) is an intelligent, caring and perceptive person with full reasoning faculties and a firm grip on reality. Who knows if he really ever intended to go through with suicide plans on 11/11/11? Searching through this site you will find other times when people were afraid Biscuit had kicked it, only to have him turn up again just fine. And if he did intend or try to commit suicide this time, he had clearly thought it through and made his own choice.
The fact that someone used Biscuit’s posts on this site to get him identified to police and then deleted their own posts and account shows an unbelievable arrogance and a true disregard for the autonomy and dignity of other human beings. I think it is despicable for people to troll a website like this and betray the trust of the community of users who come here to vent their feelings in safety. The mental health system has no scientifically validated methods of ending the personal suffering that leads people to consider suicide. What it does have is a long and ongoing history of harming the people it claims to help.
The result of this experience for Biscuit of Death is most likely going to be the loss of suicideproject.org as a trusted outlet for his feelings, now that he has been betrayed by someone on the site. And the sick thing is that person is probably using this site to feed their egos with a grandiose sense of purpose, and will congratulate themselves on having “saved a life” when there is no proof whatsoever that they did anything of the sort.
Wow-hard to believe!
are you fucking me are you fucking me? Okay i know he had a little problems so did the rest of us. I know you wanna to save a life but report him isnt that a little to far. I know i would miss him more than anyone on here. But come on :c. I hope he ish okay tho. I will miss him :c.
@live free: ‘he (she?) is an intelligent, caring and perceptive person with full reasoning faculties and a firm grip on reality’
Really?! is that how you would really describe Biscuit???!!! How long have you been following his posts? The ‘firm grip on reality’ bit really made me laugh… you know he believes in the afterlife there will be a house full of everyone from SP.
Look, honestly no one knows what’s best for anyone really. But think about it. Biscuit gave himself amnesia by an attempted hanging. He’s also VERY deluded, whcih can be dangerous to himself, if not others. Maybe he does need physical restraint, at least in the short term.
So the authorities got to him? Well if the system in the UK is anything like it is in the US then its safe to say that they threw him into a psych-ward. Treatment? LOL Really?
This whole situation will probably make his mental state worse.
Biscuit needed to come to the realization that he wasn’t ready to die yet so he could start living. He didn’t need to be forced into a place against his will (as i am fairly sure he was).
i have too agree with onedaysays above, …….. most of you sound totally sane to me, so i must be frigging insane, lol.
yeah there were some things that sounded somewhat sane from biscuit, yet there is far more things that just weren’t right.
it is what it is.
I have been in nuthutz and brainfarms before and only the second to last one was bad, but all the others were pretty good as far as nutwards go.
I don’t think any here have a firm grip on reality, we see the world thru the eyes of depression and pain thus scewed.
What I see as reality no matter how much I believe its what I think it is its not reality as others see reality.
When I choose to leave, there will be no announcment to the community here I will just do it.
I think it best to keep particulars of date and times to myself.
I doubt we will hear from our friend Biscuit again even if he does get access.
Because like others have said he will never trust the site again.
I feel if youu want to help a person encourage them to look for themselves, do not report them.
Because now they are going to always keep waatch on the poor guy.
And pump him full of drugs that will probably make him worse off mentally.
Shows how free our free countries are when a person cannot even have the freedom to leave this world.
Sad things is the people that run the world cause a lot of the misery and they think that the best method is for citizens to just sck it up and deal.
Makes me all the more wise to not announce anywhere on the web when my time comes.
I’ll probably set up a delayed email to say goodbye to certain people who i respec tthough.
just a note i don’t have a date or time, lol………
Personally – I think he is fine. I honestly just think he is pulling everyones leg. If I am wrong – my fault.
I do kind of agree with oneday and caucajun. Biscuit had been very worrying at times. He had a plan at one point to hammer a knife into his throat for crying out loud. Chances are if he goes to a psych unit it will only be for a week or so and then he’ll get picked up by a care team for treatment at home. I always felt he was someone who was crying out for help but too scared to ask rather than someone who actually really wanted to die. I’ll miss him though. Someone on here has his email address. Maybe they could drop him a line to say he has our thoughts and wish him well.
My theories on Biscuit:
He has a romantic fantasy of death. So it’s not really that he hates life so much. Its more that he considers death a safe, beautiful, majestic place. He considers death a gift that will soon be delivered to him. It is not a far leap to think that this logic of death being a gift could transfer from doing harm to yourself, to doing harm to others. Isn’t this mentality the thing that drives religious fanatics and suicide bombers and cults? That by killing people, you are ‘saving’ them from life? Delusion is potentially very dangerous to other people.
I didn’t really think that Biscuit was ready to suicide any time soon. His obsession with death was symptomatic of his Asbergers OCD tendencies. But he could never execute his plan, because to die would actually put an end to his ability to obsess, which his OCD would not allow. He was caught in a loop, and therefore, safe.
I don’t know if he was dangerous, but for sure he was deluded and very mentally ill. Looney bins are there not just to protect us from ourselves, but also protect us from other people. I am hoping for his sake, that he can learn something worthwhile in there.
HI all, that is me who was having those intense few moments w/ KR aka Biscuit and yes I have his email…I just got home from a 11 hour day at the firm, and he has been on my mind like since last night, since he went dark. I googled the BBC at work this morning to see if someone had killed themselves, figured if if were at school it would warrant attention. I saw nothing, and my heart was lightened, though thought he could be lying or maybe just chose another way. I am so glad he got help-NO it was not me that reported him. I would not even know how on earth to trace him, I looked up his real name which now I have, and there are 92 of the same name in the uk! I did not email him bc i wanted to respect his privacy and I was afraid of saying something that might provoke an action. He promised me he would think about what I said about him having youth and all and not being washed up, and he also promised he would post on Sunday. he is such a dear, sweet little thing and really I am well aware of his rants and raves, and the fact that he had VERY serious issues, that is why I chose not to get into a private dialogue with him in case he got pissed off or I said the wrong thing. Many times I was going to email, but still I didn’t. I hope he does get the help he needs, and I hope we do hear from him again, and I HOPE he doesn’t think it was me! LOL
Yesa he is dead as dodo
Dolittle you really are an ass!
Kiss it
You need to stop trolling and get sone psych help.
Why are you here?
Love him or hate him, B was ours….I don’t like D attacking others, not nice D..
Wow, so that kinda thing actually happens – things people write here actually get reported to the po-po… Dunno if that’s a good or bad thing…
Anyway I reckon biscuit will be ok. Last weekend I got detained and put into a psych ward… it was shit, and I can definitely say having been chewed up and spit out by the system that it does NOT work. Basically all they did for me was keep me fed (free food woohoo) and waited til I was calm enough to leave.
However, at least one good thing did come from it – I had a bunch of people huddled around me, at least for a while, asking me questions, and the interaction kinda woke me up from the haze of depression I was living in. While I don’t usually like dealing with any kind of authority, at least it was a change of pace and it kinda shook me up enough to notice the horrible rut I was in.
Now I’m not saying I’m cured by a longshot (in fact I’m still going to obtain the lethal drug I was looking for before I got detained – just as ‘insurance’), but I got some of the attention I needed and I think biscuit will at least have REAL people addressing his wishes to die instead of a bunch of phantoms on a message board giving hit and miss advice which I don’t think he really was paying attention to anyway.
How come every date i choose noone gave a shit??? Fuck biscuit
They must have caught him trying to attemp suicide then.That’ the only way the Police or Mental health service can get you sectioned.They can’t do anything if you just say you are going to attempt.I was going to point out to him the other day
that someone might catch him cos he first posted what college he was going to then some days ago the time and date and even which toilets.Not clever really
another reason why we shouldnt post what method we are going to do. People will contact the police and they will come to where we are planning out suicide. Nothing is safe anymore.
I think B if he posted those things did so out of being young and stupid….
I hope he will be OK….I’m glad he got some intervention, I am of the opinion that someone under 25 or 30 has not lived enough to really know what they do and if they want to die. A lot of problems when you are young-excluding the usual abuse and mental issues-can seem overwhelming, peer pressure, self-lothing, not fitting in, some of that resolves itself, SOME not all, and to see if you really want to end it all, you need to carry that into adulthood. Anyway as Simon Cowell says, “Just and opinionnnnnn.”
Seriously, I found yesterday I did not get a job I was well qualified for and very bummed..(even more so). They check everything in background to high heaven, even email though I use an alias email, I am wondering if they found me posting on this site! NOTHING is anom anymore. Its sickening.
*If to say the truth, I felt sth happened that day..like it’d be better not try to reach him.
*That’s why it’s not a good idea to post your farewell letters here,
especially one week ago…
*I’m glad, I’m not from UK:)
@apthic, yup. But the site is supposed to be for people who need to reach out, the site is functioning as is meant to be, Sometimes people write letters and say things they can’t and they get better by letting it out, talking to people, when no one is around. I think it should NOT BE used against you. BUT he was a minor, and someone here was concerned enough about him (I was) to actually get the ball rolling. Thing is, what would keep me from going the next stop by ratting on and policing somone is we DON”T know if someone is talking sh&t or who the heck they are in realty.
So, his life’s saved for a while, nobody knows for how long(I’ve read a story about a person who hung himself in hospital) and…OK, I hope he’ll ever get better.
I know I agree. If he wants to do it he will.
I personally have experienced very bad treatment in hospital when they accidentally mixed drugs n so on, I hope it will not happen to him.
I hope so too. I hope he won’t come out the worse. I have never been committed, I am just very, very high strung and sensitive, but have been thinking maybe I ought to be bc I can’t cope w. all the dodgy balls coming my way. I guess I’m what you’d call a very “nervous” person, and my husband says “neurotic”, so if this were 1870, I’d suffer from the vapers and be laying around on a fainting couch all day, LOL
The worse or not it will depend on drugs, sometimes they’re the reason of suicide, too.
Just making a person to suffer n locking him won’t solve a problem in his soul.That’s it.
There is alot of anti medicine feelings here. I know we are a concentrated bunch which have been thru the medcince merry go round, yet if meds didn’t have a value this site would have millions of people here, not just the few it has.
Just because a person has a heart problem, doesn’t mean we don’t give them heart medicine that can be benificial, yet has some side effects that could be lethal.
SSRI’s make me think more clearly sometimes and the clarity extends to the reasons I want to committ suicide, thus crystalizing the thought that its ok to kill myself.
The right meds in the right dose’s, (which takes trial and error) take time to find the right combination. Drugs do not work for everybody.
I bet there are millions of people that are getting very good results from meds.
@cauajun: – well said. I’ll also point out that distrust of medicine and the hard sciences is a common theme with delusion and psychosis.
@LOLfailz – People give a shit about you. I personally don’t pay attention when people set dates anymore, because I’ve started to realize it’s just people being provocative for no realy reason, and I don’t want to encourage that kind of behaviour. Biscuit gets a lot of traffic on this site because he shows a lot of himself so people really connect to that. I’ve been on this site 5 months, and I know very little about you. You don’t seem to show much at all. So if you post you’re going to die, I wouldn’t respond because I don’t know you, so I wouldn’t know what to say that would help you. If you need attention or a connection (and lets face it, everyone does), then you need to start showing more of yourself and being more honest.
Hmm, Kieran/Biscuit of Death/the most popular man on SP, has been absent from this site for so long now. I wonder if he’s still alive and breathing out there somewhere.