Why do I set barriers up on how I should go? I can get a gun, which has got to be the easiest way to do it, but I feel like people will “blame” the gun? Is that weird? I’m all for gun rights and wouldnt want my suicide to be the cause of more gun laws? Why do I care?
I also won’t do it in my house because I don’t want the house tainted or haunted for the next person who lives there. Again why do I care?
Leaning toward a rope in my office.
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So u believe in ghost/hauntings? Is there any real proof for its existence?
So u believe in ghost or hauntings? Is there any real proof for its existence?
strange, I got similar thoughts. I guess, that’s kinda normal? …I dunno.
Clearly you have some challenges my friend. If it’s your intent to go, how can you control what anyone would think and why would you? You believe that your using a gun will affect gun laws….?? You sure you really want to go?
We all have a survival instinct that is hard to overcome. If you decide to make a decision on your method then decide…otherwise you’ll just bounce from one idea to another.
Just a warning dying by hanging yourself is torturous. It is not fast and can last for hours if you don’t do it right and MOST people do not. In the old days when the lynched people they had them drop for a reason. When they hit the end of the rope their neck snapped killing them instantly in most cases. Otherwise the death was drawn out, inhumane and gruesome.
Suspension hanging can work, and never takes hours, just about 30 minutes. Conciousness can be lost withing 15 seconds when done right. You just have to carefully position the knot, and practise with it untill you can pass out without too much pain. And… I’m breaking about every rule this site has right now, so please let the Admin not see this.
I’m seriously considering my side arm but it means so much to me I wanted to give it to my brother, I’ve used it in 2 wars. I pretty much gave everything else away. It’s hard for me to explain, I don’t know myself why its hard for me to use it for this. I was checking my old office for something under the drop ceiling for me to tie a rope off too. It wasn’t looking too good. What’s better for close range? Hollow point? I don’t think it meets max velocity to “mushroom” when its that close. I keep failing at this.
Niki: no I don’t really believe in ghosts, maybe a little. I just don’t want to ruin the house for my family.
It sounds like you still care a lot about people, even if you’ve stopped caring about yourself. Maybe you should give yourself another chance
I do very much so. But my one arrest (which believe me was stupid) my whole life is causing me to lose everything I’ve made myself into. This end will give the insurence $ needed to my loved ones for them to carry on. I’d much rather just disappear but that would leave them stranded. This is the honorable thing to do, but I’m too much of a “you know what” to do it.
It’s honorable to want to take care of your family financially. But what about emotionally? Do you really think they would chose money over you? Would you chose money over them?
Of course I would not. That’s why I’m at where I am now, I could care less about myself, its them I’m worried about. I sacraficed almost 2 decades of my life for my country and other people and one stumble and the same country I defended almost with my life walked away from me. My family is here for me but I will soon not be able to provide for them. 1 full-metal jacket round and they will be fine financially. I stick around and they suffer. There are plenty of other people to fill the short emotional void I will cause.
One_day, I see where you are going with this and your care and resposes mean more to me right now than you can ever imagine but that doesn’t pay the morgages, the car payments, medical benifits, food, etc.
I doubt very much anyone else can fill that emotional void but it’s your life and your decision. If ye ex military why aren’t they taking care of you? Can your family work if your in financial trouble? All I know is, sometimes kids grow up with questions that only a father can answer
*sigh*
I need to do this.
I understand. I hope you are forgiven by your loved ones and wish you all the best
have you talked to someone at the local VA hospital?
as I understand they’e really upgraded the mental health services in the last few years – call them – reach out – you don’t have to tell them you’re thinking of eating a bullet but you can tell them you’re very depressed – maybe they can help or get you in touch with organizations that can.
former army dawg
Surely you could go do a local park or forest and shoot yourself there, tht way the house wouldn’t be haunted. Well, it would be haunted by your family’s what-ifs and could-have-beens…
I have financial problems too, as well as battling lifelong depression, pain and, frankly, a rank innocence that has begun to stink out my life. Hopefully when I’m dead the smell of naivety will clear.
I’m in the military. A trip to mental health will make matters worse. I’ve tried a couple forest locations. Didn’t dress like myself and took a casino bus. Oddly I don’t want to be found, I just want to vanish, maybe someone find a small piece of me just so everyone knows I’m gone and insurence money can be issued. The animals in the woods will def rip me a part, which would be perfect. If I did it in my office I’d make a statement that I’m not sure I want to make but I KNOW I don’t want to do it at home. Its not my famly’s fault. They need to be happy. Why is this so hard? I just want to go away.
I hear ya Lon3….Wish I could just vanish too. Unfortunately it isn’t that easy
Question – did you check your insurance policy(s) to see if they have a suicide clause? Some will NOT pay out for a suicide death – I’d hate to heard you punched out only to find your family left holding the bag.
ins agent dawg
Yes, suicide in considered a result of mental illness. Could you imagine if FOX or CNN got a hold of a story of little Johnny coming back from combat, offing himself and his wife Sally and the kids go hungry? I know a few PTSD related suicides upon return from war and the $500k was paid every time. I just got back myself, but the funny part is, I enjoy the field, its the garison BS that screwing me over.
Funny, my boss just called to see if I was okay and not isolating myself. “Yes Sir, I’m fine.” I’m too much of a *ussy to do this.
You are lucky Lon3…I’ve been waiting to for someone to ask if I’m alright. I had surgery just over a month ago and everyone knows how close I came to ending my life a couple months ago, but they all ask if I’m okay because of surgery. No one asks if I’m isolating myself. Now is not your time my friend.
Here’s a good one for ya that just popped up in the news. The Navy has more balls then I thought:
Navy Pilot John Robert Reeves Killed Self In San Diego Murder-Suicide
01/04/12
SAN DIEGO — A New Year’s Day shooting that left four people dead at a condominium near San Diego was a murder-suicide involving a 25-year-old Navy pilot who killed himself, officials said Wednesday.
John Robert Reeves shot himself in the head, and the three others with him were murdered, the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department said, citing autopsy results.
Fellow Navy pilot David Reis, also 25, was killed by a gunshot wound to the torso, and his 24-year-old sister, Karen, suffered a gunshot wound to the head and chest, officials said. Matthew Saturley, 31, of Chula Vista was shot multiple times.
Sheriff’s Capt. Duncan Fraser said there were no outstanding suspects in the case, and police have found no evidence indicating there was an exchange of gunfire.
Fraser declined to say if Reeves was the shooter, explaining that “we don’t have forensic evidence yet to say that definitively.”
“We have no eyewitnesses to what happened inside the residence,” Fraser told reporters. “We don’t know what the motive was.”
The deaths shook Coronado, a picturesque peninsular enclave of 24,000 people on San Diego Bay that draws tourists and recorded only one homicide in 2010. The city is home to Naval Air Station North Island, serves as a training area for Navy SEALs, and is a haven for Navy retirees.
The two Navy pilots shared the condominium with another Navy pilot who was out of town at the time. The third pilot has been talking to authorities, Fraser said.
Friends and family members have not indicated there were any problems in the household that could have caused Sunday’s tragedy, investigators said.
Authorities were awaiting toxicology results to see if drugs or alcohol might have played a role.
Reeves moved in to the condo a few months ago, Fraser said.
The two Navy pilots and Karen Reis went out to a nightclub on New Year’s Eve with another unidentified friend, Fraser said. At the club, they met Saturley and returned to Coronado.
The unidentified friend was talking to David Reis outside the condo when gunshots rang out. Reis rushed inside and the friend stayed outside and called 911, Fraser said.
David Reis’ body was found near the entryway. The other three were found on the third floor of the condo, Fraser said.
Karen Reis and one of the men were in a bedroom and another male was on the landing.
Investigators seized four guns from the property but did not release any details on the weapons. None appeared to be a military firearm, Fraser said.
The Marine Corps says Reeves, of Prince Frederick, Md., and Reis, of Bakersfield were both Navy officers and F/A-18 fighter pilots. They were assigned to the Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 101 of the Third Marine Aircraft Wing at Miramar Air Station.
Both men joined the Navy through ROTC in 2008 at separate universities. Reeves commissioned in the Navy through ROTC at Penn State University while Reis commissioned at the University of New Mexico, where he graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering.
The Reis siblings were close friends. David Reis had just taken his first flight aboard an F/A-18 fighter jet. His sister, Karen, 24, graduated from the University of California, San Diego in 2009, and coached volleyball twice a week to children 12 and younger.
Genuine Volleyball Club’s website says she was completing course work toward becoming an occupational therapist.
“David and Karen were good people, from a good family, and doing all that they could to spread that goodness to all who had the fortune to come into contact with them,” the family said in a statement Wednesday.
They asked the media to respect their privacy at this time and not to contact them. The siblings are expected to be buried together.
Karen’s absence will be greatly felt by those who came in contact with the “selfless young woman” who loved to play sports and sing in her car. David was Karen’s “knight in shining armor,” the family said.
“We will miss David tremendously, but take solace knowing that he is now forever flying in flawless formation across eternity, with Karen on his wing,” the family said.
Navy Lt. Col. Robert Brodie expressed his support for the families of both men and urged people to pray for them.
“Our condolences go out to the families, friends, fellow service members and Coronado community during this time of mourning,” Brodie said.
Well mwtele are you F’n okay? Please tell me you are, if I was there I’d bring you a beer and whatever I could to make you better. I hope to God you are doing better because I wouldn’t wish these feelings on anyone.
Isn’t there any way you can just go talk to someone about ptsd? I mean, kinda brush it off as “i don’t think I have it but i’m not quite feeling myself”? … if that is a problem – what about an off-post counselor?
Had my share of Art 15’s – all for stupid shit … lots of restriction and barracks duties ie mopping/buffing
bad dawg
I’m alright. I got whiskey…:). my story is different than yours but we have come to the same ending. I feel your pain and only hope you can find what it takes to resolve it
My path has been chosen along time ago for me and finally after years and years of delaying I finally see the light. I tried to make it but I wasn’t meant too. I’m okay with it. I’m happy because others are happy
Lon3….unless you believe that your path has been chosen, I think you need to recon cider. Sure things are bad for you know. Life isn’t about being completely easy. Troubles are there to make us stronger and let us learn. You are worried about taking care of your family….let them take care of you. They will stand by you.
I’m going to go play MW3 with my brother on the opposite coast. Its the only thing that gives me some good feelings any more. I’m halfway through a bottle of vodka and a few vicodin deep myself.
My son has MW3 but prefers MW2…i don’t get it….lol.
I do like survival mode in MW3
mwtele no your path isn’t chosen, if I was chilling with you you’d be laughing and fine but I’d still be in the middle of sever legal troubles for doing too much damage to the 3 people who tried to harm a loved one. I need to jump on the Xbox, I’ll be back.
Team Deathmatch is the only think keeping me alive…and my daily destruction of weights in the gym 🙂
Oh sure!! rub it IN!!! I have two… TWO Xbox360 DOA … and can’t play – enjoy lucky f#ckers – i hope you Die!!!
gameless dawg
See ya Lon3
I don’t comment or post on this site much anymore because it makes me feel too good. I have accepted what is to come for me and don’t want it changed. I’ve worked long and hard for this.
I got the PS3 but don’t play online cause I SUCK….lol
Survival on mw3 is fun ;c
Hey Dawhg I have two xbox’s as well and I use both lol….XD
Spartan should play reach instead or battlefield cuz mw3 blows… OR SKYRIM D;
I prefer DJ Hero…..someone day I’ll be a DJ because of that. No, not really…lol
mwtele, I’m still here on my phone. Good, stay on this site if it makes you feel good. Unfortunatly I feel good too on here. I’ll go for a walk on the pier with my .44mag tonight but of course *uss out.
no, it’s not worth it tonight. seriously. i can’t tell you why. but it’s not the night
hey Lon3 i was here a few nights ago completely full of tears. by the time i left i was laughing and smiling. this is a great place for people who hurt so bad. no one judges, no one says don’t, everyone just understands.
besides – if go for a walk on he pier you’ll end up saving someone from a mugging then you’ll be under he spotlight … heroes … sheesh!
under dawg
right….dawg is right. because that will happen tonight for sure.
I’ve actually done that. Chased and caught some dude who broke into a girl’s car. It was a 700 meter dash he was like in Air Koreans or something and I was in damn flop-flips. Cornered him, he came at me with a screw driver (when I tell chicks at bars I say “sword” lol) I took it from him, “subdued” him & turned him into police 🙂
way to go Lon3!!! you got skills!
Sorry about chatting stupid stuff.
nope….nothing stupid here, not at all
but wearing flip flops….that’s stupid…lol
This sucks.
mwtele, still hitting the whiskey?
what’s a matter?
yeap….almost bed time
Night is here, I can’t sleep and can’t wake up.
been there Lon3. it’s a long and lonely and full of thought process. takes a long time to get better
You guys make me feel too good and that doesn’t solve a F’n thing.
i know it doesn’t Lon3….but it does for now.
I love my dogs, they KNOW how I feel. This sucks, man.
take it for what it is now. who knows where it might take you
you love your family. you said it with out directly saying it a while back
Getting drunk doesn’t even give me more balls.
nope. it doesn’t. kind of makes you see things in a different life. for me, i wake up hung over and thinking…i shouldn’t have done that. but at the time, when i’m getting drunk, it fixes everything
Dogs ROCK! … my reason for living!
alpha dawg
mwtele, you seem like an awesome dude. Someone who could be the type of guy who would make a blood brother. You don’t need to have these thoughts.
Thanks Lon3. Wish I thought that of myself. But it is what it is. And I’m here for a little bit longer and then I have to go. Just hope that I can make someone think twice or find a little something that makes them not follow down my same road
I meet you today and I feel good. I don’t want to feel good.
I think its time for my stupid walk.
you on the west coast?
i understand the not wanting to feel good. that’s why i don’t comment everyday anymore or post
Yup
it’s early there, get some sunset pics then. i love sunsets
If I take my puppies I’ll even be more of a *ussy.
i don’t understand that. why? you don’t need to do anything tonight other than taking pics of the sunset
mwtele, my brother is back East. I think I’ll walk then play more MW3 when he gets out of the gym. I have a PS3 also if u ever want to hop online.
you’ll have to play against my son. i don’t know his name though
robo…something something something
I need to keep my family in my sites. Once this court martial goes through, no paycheck and more importantly no medical.
Something something something Darkside? 🙂
that sucks Lon3. you’ll have to face up to what is to come. but if it wasn’t meant to be this way then you wouldn’t be facing it. it seems bad now but something good is going to come from it. I have no idea what and i’m sure you sure as hell doubt that completely. but everything happens for a good reason. just takes a long and hard time to find it. don’t forget that.
don’t know my son’s name online. i won’t be here much longer to play online if i did play online.
I don’t know.
U will. Sounds like you have an amazing family.
Imagine protecting them but using “extremely too much force” against 3 intoxicated guys bigger than you in a grocery store while stone cold sober and losing your job and being put on trial for it.
Lon3 if you are talking about my amazing family then i’m sorry but you are completely wrong. my immediate family, wife and son, are gone, and my brothers and mom are off doing their things. i fault them not
Spartan…you’re being court martial-ed? :c (sorry i dunno how to spell at times)
you are just gonna have to let the court speak lon3….there is nothing else you can do
It seems like you have everything to live for.
me???? no my friend. not true. i haven’t told my story and i never will. my path is chosen like i said and that’s what it is
Yeah, if I go away so does all this.
Well that sucks for me, you seem like the only person I can talk too.
well you got me for a bit yet. i’ll be here
i understand you thinking if you go away all this go away. i thought that about my life too. i don’t have what you are going through. mine is different. but me killing myself will actually make things worse. i only wanna do it for me. i know i will ruin people if i do. that’s unfortunate but it is what it is.
I’m wondering what occurred…to make them court martial you.. :\
I’ve considered running off to South America but that does my family no good…and my Spanish is so damn rusty.
AtTheEnd, a fight my friend. Where severe “bodily harm” was brought upon my attackers in a he said he said senerio. It is such a mess.
what if – because you have an honorable record, during your court martial, they decide to be lenient on you and keep you in service? sure, maybe a month in the brig, reduction in rank etc but what if they “get’ that your offense is a “one-off” deal?
if you try – and fail – to ice yourself – then they are sure to ‘be done” with you (and they’d consider it dishonorable)
do you have an attorney? are you absolutely SURE it’s a career-ending offense?
perry mason dawg
Oh my…well I’m sorry.
At least you’re crime is not as bad as the Black Hearts Brigade which I’m pretty sure you know or heard about :l
A fight sounds pretty damn stupid though…
I’m quite sorry since it’s not even a crime -.-
Dawg, I’m not a Private. I’m a relatively high ranking officer. Without getting into too many details there is something called “Conduct on Becoming” which is a catch all. There is video that doesn’t show their agression just my fending them off TOO WELL apparently. I’ve never been arrested before, I’m a decorated combat vet working on my Ph.D but the fact that I’m a black belt and experienced ground fighter, the DA sees it differently. I’m so close to retirement its crazy. I’m treated like a convicted felon everyday. That’s the story.
I see….they see it as an experienced officer picking on some lower ranks who were messing with him? Sounds like that’s how they view it. Keep your chin up, hopefully justice prevails…
It won’t. I was already relieved of command.
yes – i can appreciate the conduct unbecoming – but a good attorney should be ale o use the video and call so expert martial arts instructors to IDENTIFY the martial arts move that are PREDOMINANTLY DEfensive – decorated combat vets with exemplary records would USUALLY be given some benefit of doubt – especially if you can use evidence to display you were trying to defend until it became clear you were in Imminent danger
you still didn’t explicitly answer the question if you had an attorney? If Not, GET ONE! NOW!
law dawg
Of course you were relieved – pending the outcome! – they don’t “throw away” great commanders for one blemish
Yes, and paid him every cent I have.
and is your attorney doing a deep investigation on the “victim”? Usually guys who instigate have done so before – hopefully you also have a huge long list of character witnesses to include superiors and subordinates past and present. also – see if you can fin ANYONE who may have witnessed the “victim’s” behavior BEFORE the incident (could be hours before) but if you can find someone to say he was irritated, angry, abusive, violent, combative, drinking – that will help your side of the story that you defended yourelf
Yes. Dawg, thank u but it is over.
Lon3…you don’t know the outcome yet. you just know what the worse could be. see it out. see what happens. you have family that you love. don’t forget that. that is strong
plus you need to play my son on the ps3 cause dawg don’t have the ps3
$500k will last my family forever.
mwtele, you still there, brother?
still here
How are you man?
38 feel 21
where’s the sunset pics?
How you feelin colonel? enjoy walking the puppy? 🙂
Yeah, I’m 38 too. Look 29 though 🙂
looking….what does that mean….it’s about how old you feel, not how you look
Hahaha! Sun was already down, didn’t take my camera or pistol for that matter…you guys are a bad influence on me.
not a bad influence…..it’s just not your time…that’s all
but i need a sunset pic tomorrow
for real
never seen one over the pacific
Man, these 2 little sh*ts love the beach! They just Chase the hell out of each other. I put little lights on their collars so I don’t lose em. You guys would have laughed.
i thought you had family??? how come you don’t bring them to the beach?
what kind of mutts?
Ok mwtele, we have the good camara, I already promised I’d do anything to keep you happy. I can get some shots tomorrow for you.
Dawg…..you are gonna have to make sure Lon3 is doing alright soon
yeap. i’m gonna need some nice sunsets
i’ll never make it there so give me what yo ugot
i expect them by 9:30pm Eastern time
I wait for everyone to go to bed. Then I slip out. It’s my time with the 2 gangsters. Then I just stay on the couch, I’m having a hard time looking family members in the eyes lately.
be honest. for real! don’t matter how it hurts! i learned that
Hahaha! 2 little crazy ass Chihuahuas. I’m a big dude and I love the *uck out of them.
mw – colonel lon3 is yours bud … i need you to help me cuz I’m getting spread pretty thin
skinny dawg
oh nice! Lol – don’t feel bad – i have shh tzus 🙂
i’m confused……apparently dawg is going to the west coast cause i won’t be here so i don’t know
I’m good. If you guys go, it will give me more reason to finally go myself.
i was in the army for a bit but i was still in high school so couldn’t go to dessert storm so i’m a veretran but i’m not and dawg has a lot of good things to say so listen to him
and GG is precious so listen to her
no no lon3. it’s not about us at all
Hahaha! I love these 2 dogs. The little one is real dumb but the bigger one is smart as a whip. He can feel me, its weird.
its all about what you have chosen for you life. face what you have and deal with it. there is honestly no where else you can run. honestly.
do you have palm trees there because Dawg wont’ say where he’s from and i want a beer under a palm tree before i go
well keep them pups close – i know mine keep me going
pack leader dawg
It is about you because it is blatantly obvious you two are great people, way better than I thought I was. If you think you need to go, I realy need to go. Kind of strange but it makes a lot of sence to me.
dawg and Lon3 goodnight. maybe talk tomorrow
We have palm trees, my friend.
we’ll be expecting you mw … don’t be late
prompt dawg
Good night. Tomorrow it is. Thank you, mwtele.
you are a good guy colonel – everyone makes a mistake – that don’t define them though. we’re gonna get you through this CM an back to business to being a hero 😉
I hate waking up.
please dont do it..
if not for me then for your family
take it from me having to lose someone is the worst kind of pain anyone can go through
please trust me as bad as you fell stick it out
and plus.. im here to talk to you and i bet i could make you feel better..
it dosent have to be this way
just please dont 🙁
hey lon3….i don’t think i’m ever gonna make it to see them palm trees you got there. guess you’ll have to sit under one and drink a beer for me. no, i’m not catching the bus anytime soon (I don’t think at least), just won’t be heading to the west coast
Mwtele, I’ll most them. Just not myself lately. You know the deal.
Amen brother. Amen.
🙂