If i tell my counsellor, (Ontario) that i attempted to commit suicide last week, will she still legally have to do something about it, like put me into a mental health unit or get me assesed or something, or is it safe to talk about?
I don’t know Canada’s laws. I believe in the US if you tell a therapist that you have a suicide plan, they can have you committed.
This is a huge stumbling block for honesty in therapy, also a huge dilemma for a caring therapist.
As stated in my post tonight, I do wonder at times why they force us to live.
probaly certify for reabilatation.when l talk to my theripist,i make it clear l plan my suicide will be in the not so far future but not real soon.my theripist and dr allow me to be free with this.
Hmm, that depends on the therapist. I would start off by saying… “Look, I tried this, but I’ve since not done anything else and have no plans of doing it again… I just want to be honest with you.”
You’d have to be acting/showing signs of a threat that would make them commit you into the hospital.
My therapist knows and believes that I am capable of committing suicide. She respects my honesty and doesn’t tell me that I should or shouldn’t kill myself. However, she does tell me straight up if I come in there with cuts or say/do anything that would make her think I was going to kill myself she would have me committed.
Suicidal idealization and planning are two totally different things. Just start by saying that you thought about killing yourself, you tried it and now you just want to find another way out.
many professionals not only mental health workers are required by law under threat of loss of licensure or worse to have some one put under mental hygiene arrest (brought to a psychiatric emergency unit) and sent for an evaluation of mental health status: current threat. The threats include a plan and intent to commit suicide (a date, a when, how and where) or intent and plan to hurt anyone else or if you are currently abusing another person.
I have suicidal ideation obsessively and I am a cutter. My therapist knows these things and he knows that I will not commit suicide under those circumstances. I have told him that if I was going to commit suicide nobody would know until they found my body decomposed hanging from a tree three months after my disappearance.
TRUST, BE VULNERABLE, ACCEPT HELP -good luck
First of all it depends on her area of work. If she’s just a counselor or therapist they can report the issue and it will be handled. If your underage they can put you in a mental health clinic. If your over the age you can make that decision for yourself, if your problems aren’t severe. Personally I don’t believe you should tell her but it’s your decision. I go to a therapist and I don’t tell her EVERYTHING because she’s also a psychiatrist and she can recommend hospitalization, or other people who specialize in the area of mental heath. I hadn’t had any thoughts of cutting or burning myself or thoughts of suicide recently, If I do I know I won’t go back to attempting it. Definitely, not suicide. The burning and cutting is a little bit of a struggle but I’ve been distancing from my group therapy and therapist because I believe I can begin on my own. I’ve been cut free and burn free for three months already. In your case however, your counselor can run an assessment or ask questions. But it also depends on age. If you are underage chances are you will go through assessments and go to a mental health clinic for inpatient or an evaluation. It also depends if you still struggle with those suicidal thoughts after an attempt. If your over the age (18 and older) you can make your decision if you want to be in a clinic or get an evaluation but if the situation was serious or you went through a breakdown or struggle with a serious mental illness they can put you in a clinic themselves or get an evaluation of you.
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I don’t know Canada’s laws. I believe in the US if you tell a therapist that you have a suicide plan, they can have you committed.
This is a huge stumbling block for honesty in therapy, also a huge dilemma for a caring therapist.
As stated in my post tonight, I do wonder at times why they force us to live.
probaly certify for reabilatation.when l talk to my theripist,i make it clear l plan my suicide will be in the not so far future but not real soon.my theripist and dr allow me to be free with this.
Hmm, that depends on the therapist. I would start off by saying… “Look, I tried this, but I’ve since not done anything else and have no plans of doing it again… I just want to be honest with you.”
You’d have to be acting/showing signs of a threat that would make them commit you into the hospital.
My therapist knows and believes that I am capable of committing suicide. She respects my honesty and doesn’t tell me that I should or shouldn’t kill myself. However, she does tell me straight up if I come in there with cuts or say/do anything that would make her think I was going to kill myself she would have me committed.
Suicidal idealization and planning are two totally different things. Just start by saying that you thought about killing yourself, you tried it and now you just want to find another way out.
many professionals not only mental health workers are required by law under threat of loss of licensure or worse to have some one put under mental hygiene arrest (brought to a psychiatric emergency unit) and sent for an evaluation of mental health status: current threat. The threats include a plan and intent to commit suicide (a date, a when, how and where) or intent and plan to hurt anyone else or if you are currently abusing another person.
I have suicidal ideation obsessively and I am a cutter. My therapist knows these things and he knows that I will not commit suicide under those circumstances. I have told him that if I was going to commit suicide nobody would know until they found my body decomposed hanging from a tree three months after my disappearance.
TRUST, BE VULNERABLE, ACCEPT HELP -good luck
First of all it depends on her area of work. If she’s just a counselor or therapist they can report the issue and it will be handled. If your underage they can put you in a mental health clinic. If your over the age you can make that decision for yourself, if your problems aren’t severe. Personally I don’t believe you should tell her but it’s your decision. I go to a therapist and I don’t tell her EVERYTHING because she’s also a psychiatrist and she can recommend hospitalization, or other people who specialize in the area of mental heath. I hadn’t had any thoughts of cutting or burning myself or thoughts of suicide recently, If I do I know I won’t go back to attempting it. Definitely, not suicide. The burning and cutting is a little bit of a struggle but I’ve been distancing from my group therapy and therapist because I believe I can begin on my own. I’ve been cut free and burn free for three months already. In your case however, your counselor can run an assessment or ask questions. But it also depends on age. If you are underage chances are you will go through assessments and go to a mental health clinic for inpatient or an evaluation. It also depends if you still struggle with those suicidal thoughts after an attempt. If your over the age (18 and older) you can make your decision if you want to be in a clinic or get an evaluation but if the situation was serious or you went through a breakdown or struggle with a serious mental illness they can put you in a clinic themselves or get an evaluation of you.