Sometimes, yes. Other times the ‘enemy’ is an unwillingness or inability to approach problems and situations correctly, i.e., in a manner that will cause as little a detrimental effect as possible, and is aimed to keep systems running smoothly, yet efficiently (without causing significant mental or emotional distress).
I think he’s “right,” but at the same time, it’s open to interpretation and over-analysis.
Is fear “the” enemy? I don’t think so. I think there are many enemies, and quite often, fear is among their champions.
Relatively speaking, in the context of the quote, yes, fear is absolutely a more important enemy than hate. Hate is actually occasionally justifiable and appropriate in certain circumstances. To say “all hate is always wrong,” only displays a fear of hate, rather than convincing anyone that hate should be avoided at all cost. I mean, sure, hate is worthy of being feared, in some ways… but the problem is that we go around making monsters out of ideals, and fearing artificial notions, so much that people choose not to act, when they probably should… because they are terrified.
But then you could drag that into various other realms, and say that ignorance is “the enemy,” or even that the corrupting power of knowledge is “the enemy.”
You can make an enemy of just about anything.
So, maybe statements like “such and such is the enemy” is really “the enemy,” because it oversimplifies and omits the rest of the equation, in order to emphasize only one part of it.
Still, i think the quote itself is more right than wrong.
I think the quote is not about which one is “the enemy” or whether fear is more important than hatred. i think it says that cause of hatred is fear. we try to deal with hatred as it is, but its source lies in fear.
Yes, I’m certain all forms of hatred have fear at their root, no matter what else is mixed in there as well. I sort of agree with quaero that pride (not normal self worth, but the “I am greater than you” sort of pride) is involved, except as I see it, overbearing pride is something that blinds people so they won’t perceive things as they are. It commonly prevents people from getting over their hatred, but doesn’t necessarily cause that hatred in the first place, imo. When a member of a powerful group hates a member of a less powerful group, there may well be pride in there along with the fear (and whatever other emotions). When a member of a not-so-powerful group hates a member of a powerful group that they feel unfairly dominates them, it’s going to tend to be more out of anger/resentment.
i indeed laughed because just yesterday my answer would not have been the same
only that i changed my opinion because i changed my attitude
as ridiculous as it may seem
before yesterday i could have hardly imagined what power lays within my and everyone’s mind
If you don’t fear hate, any problem generated by hate doesn’t affect you as deeply, and is less difficult to deal with.
Like i said: in the context that quote was likely intended, i have to agree; fear is a more detrimental condition than hate.
And, i think fear causes hate, more than hate causes fear… but those are not the only ways those things relevantly interact.
I personally don’t think “hate” is even valid, unless it’s personal. I don’t think it’s valid for anyone to “hate” an entire “race” or “culture” or any other such broad group definition. They can SAY they hate “all” of whatever people… but there are almost always exceptions in any group or scenario. A KKK member may claim to “hate” all non-whites… but under thorough scrutiny, this is quite unlikely to be true; the person only believes and insists it to be true, due to their own overgeneralized and oversimplified definition, which i have to attribute primarily to their indoctrination into such a mindset. I don’t think anyone ever “naturally” develops any all-encompassing hatred for literally ALL of the people in any group.
Like me, for example: i hate “theists.” But i actually don’t hate ALL of the people who believe a god exists, just for that reason. I just say that because it’s easier than explaining all the intricate nuance to someone who isn’t worth the time and effort to explain the differences, and usually, that’s a person who is included in the generalization, not someone who is an exception.
I don’t hate them for being involuntarily ignorant, or for lacking the opportunity to learn better. I only hate the ones who completely disregard the need for closer examination, who disregard the opportunity to learn better, who are both willfully ignorant and arrogant, and who then go forth to demand “disproof” of their completely baseless claims, even though they have no understanding of, and therefore cannot value, “proof.” They then go around filling as many people’s minds full of lies, as possible; and that’s what those stories MUST be defined as: lies; because there is zero evidence to support or substantiate any of them. And knowing this, they still insist it is true, as if to disregard the importance of distinguishing reality from fantasy (which is a classical symptom of schizophrenia). This causes and perpetuates the problem of people’s time and energy being wasted on non-solutions, which thereby prevents the problems of the world from ever being solved… all because people are confused and afraid. So yeah, i “hate” people like that, and i feel very justified in that stance. And it’s all because those people fear the path toward real solutions, since it goes against the people threatening them with “hellfire and damnation.” If they don’t know any better, that must seem pretty scary. I hate that they are terrorized into going along with being part of the problem, which then causes me to have to continue to endure those problems, because there are too many people fighting to stop those problems from ever being solved.
not sure if you understood me correctly so i’ll clarify just in case you didn’t
the “as ridiculous as it may seem” was referred to
“before yesterday i could have hardly imagined what power lays within my and everyone’s mind”
also i don’t think you are the same as me although i can’t be sure from what i know
i think you were the same as me
i have also changed my opinions because of my mood in the past or if you will just yesterday but today i wont anymore and i never ever will again because i’ll make sure i’ll always remember to not forget what i have learned, that life is what i make it
first of all i’m unsure whether my answer can express what i want to say, whether you understood me correctly(because of the information i had given and because i find it difficult to express myself in this language i can’t say i’m familiar with) and whether i understand you correctly or the meaning behind your words, if not i’d appreciate further explanation
i’m very aware of the fact that there are things i can’t control but still to some i think individual(pretty sure i’m missing the right word here->) border the situation is what i make of it. i also can’t tell if this is the solution to everyone else’s problems(i’d have to literally feel the situation of others to tell), i’m only fairly certain that it is the only solution to the exact “problem” i have(time will tell)
if i understood correctly i slightly disagree with this point
to some point we are what life makes us but i think one has the power to change oneself and ones attitude(if one tells himself hes a worthless piece of nothing constantly he might become just that and even if the person feels that way doesn’t mean it’s true summed up to me it seems like it’s always to some point matter of perspective)
(at least that is what i have experienced and i don’t know but this may seem kind of vague to you)
it wasn’t my intention to say “hey look i have the solution to all of your problems, it’s the only right solution and the only possible”. “it was”(quoting because i’m not sure yet but “as sure as i can be” at the moment) only the solution to my specific condition. i’m not entirely sure whether you were referring to that with “overarching absolutism” so as i said please correct me if you didn’t
and yes i agree there sure is an exception to every rule(except to this one(or maybe there is i don’t know and don’t know if i ever will))
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Sometimes, yes. Other times the ‘enemy’ is an unwillingness or inability to approach problems and situations correctly, i.e., in a manner that will cause as little a detrimental effect as possible, and is aimed to keep systems running smoothly, yet efficiently (without causing significant mental or emotional distress).
I think he’s “right,” but at the same time, it’s open to interpretation and over-analysis.
Is fear “the” enemy? I don’t think so. I think there are many enemies, and quite often, fear is among their champions.
Relatively speaking, in the context of the quote, yes, fear is absolutely a more important enemy than hate. Hate is actually occasionally justifiable and appropriate in certain circumstances. To say “all hate is always wrong,” only displays a fear of hate, rather than convincing anyone that hate should be avoided at all cost. I mean, sure, hate is worthy of being feared, in some ways… but the problem is that we go around making monsters out of ideals, and fearing artificial notions, so much that people choose not to act, when they probably should… because they are terrified.
But then you could drag that into various other realms, and say that ignorance is “the enemy,” or even that the corrupting power of knowledge is “the enemy.”
You can make an enemy of just about anything.
So, maybe statements like “such and such is the enemy” is really “the enemy,” because it oversimplifies and omits the rest of the equation, in order to emphasize only one part of it.
Still, i think the quote itself is more right than wrong.
I think the quote is not about which one is “the enemy” or whether fear is more important than hatred. i think it says that cause of hatred is fear. we try to deal with hatred as it is, but its source lies in fear.
i think fear along with pride creates hatred.
Yes, I’m certain all forms of hatred have fear at their root, no matter what else is mixed in there as well. I sort of agree with quaero that pride (not normal self worth, but the “I am greater than you” sort of pride) is involved, except as I see it, overbearing pride is something that blinds people so they won’t perceive things as they are. It commonly prevents people from getting over their hatred, but doesn’t necessarily cause that hatred in the first place, imo. When a member of a powerful group hates a member of a less powerful group, there may well be pride in there along with the fear (and whatever other emotions). When a member of a not-so-powerful group hates a member of a powerful group that they feel unfairly dominates them, it’s going to tend to be more out of anger/resentment.
Today, I agree with him.
haha
today i do as well
Good I made someone laugh lol. I change my opnions depending on my mood.
i indeed laughed because just yesterday my answer would not have been the same
only that i changed my opinion because i changed my attitude
as ridiculous as it may seem
before yesterday i could have hardly imagined what power lays within my and everyone’s mind
No, its nor ridiculous, not at all. Im the same as you.
not* duh.
If you don’t fear hate, any problem generated by hate doesn’t affect you as deeply, and is less difficult to deal with.
Like i said: in the context that quote was likely intended, i have to agree; fear is a more detrimental condition than hate.
And, i think fear causes hate, more than hate causes fear… but those are not the only ways those things relevantly interact.
I personally don’t think “hate” is even valid, unless it’s personal. I don’t think it’s valid for anyone to “hate” an entire “race” or “culture” or any other such broad group definition. They can SAY they hate “all” of whatever people… but there are almost always exceptions in any group or scenario. A KKK member may claim to “hate” all non-whites… but under thorough scrutiny, this is quite unlikely to be true; the person only believes and insists it to be true, due to their own overgeneralized and oversimplified definition, which i have to attribute primarily to their indoctrination into such a mindset. I don’t think anyone ever “naturally” develops any all-encompassing hatred for literally ALL of the people in any group.
Like me, for example: i hate “theists.” But i actually don’t hate ALL of the people who believe a god exists, just for that reason. I just say that because it’s easier than explaining all the intricate nuance to someone who isn’t worth the time and effort to explain the differences, and usually, that’s a person who is included in the generalization, not someone who is an exception.
I don’t hate them for being involuntarily ignorant, or for lacking the opportunity to learn better. I only hate the ones who completely disregard the need for closer examination, who disregard the opportunity to learn better, who are both willfully ignorant and arrogant, and who then go forth to demand “disproof” of their completely baseless claims, even though they have no understanding of, and therefore cannot value, “proof.” They then go around filling as many people’s minds full of lies, as possible; and that’s what those stories MUST be defined as: lies; because there is zero evidence to support or substantiate any of them. And knowing this, they still insist it is true, as if to disregard the importance of distinguishing reality from fantasy (which is a classical symptom of schizophrenia). This causes and perpetuates the problem of people’s time and energy being wasted on non-solutions, which thereby prevents the problems of the world from ever being solved… all because people are confused and afraid. So yeah, i “hate” people like that, and i feel very justified in that stance. And it’s all because those people fear the path toward real solutions, since it goes against the people threatening them with “hellfire and damnation.” If they don’t know any better, that must seem pretty scary. I hate that they are terrorized into going along with being part of the problem, which then causes me to have to continue to endure those problems, because there are too many people fighting to stop those problems from ever being solved.
not sure if you understood me correctly so i’ll clarify just in case you didn’t
the “as ridiculous as it may seem” was referred to
“before yesterday i could have hardly imagined what power lays within my and everyone’s mind”
also i don’t think you are the same as me although i can’t be sure from what i know
i think you were the same as me
i have also changed my opinions because of my mood in the past or if you will just yesterday but today i wont anymore and i never ever will again because i’ll make sure i’ll always remember to not forget what i have learned, that life is what i make it
You can’t control everything, and lots of those uncontrollable things can be very detrimental to you, and others you may care about.
Life is “what we make it,” only about as much as that we are what life makes us.
I really wish people would stop with the overarching absolutism.
There is always an exception; even to this rule. (sometimes there is no exception!)
first of all i’m unsure whether my answer can express what i want to say, whether you understood me correctly(because of the information i had given and because i find it difficult to express myself in this language i can’t say i’m familiar with) and whether i understand you correctly or the meaning behind your words, if not i’d appreciate further explanation
i’m very aware of the fact that there are things i can’t control but still to some i think individual(pretty sure i’m missing the right word here->) border the situation is what i make of it. i also can’t tell if this is the solution to everyone else’s problems(i’d have to literally feel the situation of others to tell), i’m only fairly certain that it is the only solution to the exact “problem” i have(time will tell)
if i understood correctly i slightly disagree with this point
to some point we are what life makes us but i think one has the power to change oneself and ones attitude(if one tells himself hes a worthless piece of nothing constantly he might become just that and even if the person feels that way doesn’t mean it’s true summed up to me it seems like it’s always to some point matter of perspective)
(at least that is what i have experienced and i don’t know but this may seem kind of vague to you)
it wasn’t my intention to say “hey look i have the solution to all of your problems, it’s the only right solution and the only possible”. “it was”(quoting because i’m not sure yet but “as sure as i can be” at the moment) only the solution to my specific condition. i’m not entirely sure whether you were referring to that with “overarching absolutism” so as i said please correct me if you didn’t
and yes i agree there sure is an exception to every rule(except to this one(or maybe there is i don’t know and don’t know if i ever will))