Could be. Personally, when I have felt suicidal in the past, it had more to do with finding a place in society. Y’know, like finding a job, learning how to drive, making friends – things like that. Um, those weren’t the only reasons I was suicidal, of course not. But on top of everything else I was dealing with, I felt totally overwhelmed.
Nah, there’s not a single set of living species that naturally respond to over population by suicide. Usually migration, lack of resources, human intervention and environmental responses dwindle the population down to healthy levels.
As far as I know, humans are the only animals to consistently take part in suicide. Yes there are those random cases of animals committing suicide like after theur mate or offsrping have died, but its rather inconsistent to say its a trend.
I think depression and suicide ideation stem from many different roots like mental illness, envriomental development and the ability to respond or cope to it, problems with social interaction or lack of, personal perception, etc… But nothing of natural response to overpopulation.
Interesting question none the less and you may be correct becuase I know for sure I am no biologist. 🙂
You just blew my mind… And made me think of that M Night Shyamalan/Mark Wahlberg movie “The Happening” where the trees/nature make people commit suicide because of over population lol
Could be. Kurt Vonnegut wrote about this in Welcome to The Monkey House.
In the not-so-distant future, a criminal mastermind named Billy the Poet is on the loose and on his way to Cape Cod. His goal is to deflower one of the hostesses at the Ethical Suicide Parlor in Hyannis. The world government runs the parlors and urges people to commit suicide to help keep the population of 17 billion stable. It also requires that the hostesses at these establishments be virgins on the basis that this would make the idea of suicide more appealing, especially to middle-aged men and older. The government also suppresses the population’s sexual desire with a drug that numbs them from the waist down (but does not render them infertile, as that is seen as unethical and violative of the religious principles of many).
What I mean is that “over” is defined only at that point where it begins to cause problems that do not occur at lower levels. Socially, some of these things can be feelings of redundancy, lack of value to your community, feeling anonymous, being lost in the shuffle, feeling replaceable and not unique, inability to achieve success at the top of a field / top of the class due to competition, and the frustrated desire for fame or notoriety.
So, yes, the fact that people can be despondent about things exacerbated by an increased population is in itself an argument for overpopulation.
In other words, you’re thinking about it backward. Problems define overpopulation, overpopulation does not “create” problems.
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Could be. Personally, when I have felt suicidal in the past, it had more to do with finding a place in society. Y’know, like finding a job, learning how to drive, making friends – things like that. Um, those weren’t the only reasons I was suicidal, of course not. But on top of everything else I was dealing with, I felt totally overwhelmed.
Nah, there’s not a single set of living species that naturally respond to over population by suicide. Usually migration, lack of resources, human intervention and environmental responses dwindle the population down to healthy levels.
As far as I know, humans are the only animals to consistently take part in suicide. Yes there are those random cases of animals committing suicide like after theur mate or offsrping have died, but its rather inconsistent to say its a trend.
I think depression and suicide ideation stem from many different roots like mental illness, envriomental development and the ability to respond or cope to it, problems with social interaction or lack of, personal perception, etc… But nothing of natural response to overpopulation.
Interesting question none the less and you may be correct becuase I know for sure I am no biologist. 🙂
You just blew my mind… And made me think of that M Night Shyamalan/Mark Wahlberg movie “The Happening” where the trees/nature make people commit suicide because of over population lol
Could be. Kurt Vonnegut wrote about this in Welcome to The Monkey House.
In the not-so-distant future, a criminal mastermind named Billy the Poet is on the loose and on his way to Cape Cod. His goal is to deflower one of the hostesses at the Ethical Suicide Parlor in Hyannis. The world government runs the parlors and urges people to commit suicide to help keep the population of 17 billion stable. It also requires that the hostesses at these establishments be virgins on the basis that this would make the idea of suicide more appealing, especially to middle-aged men and older. The government also suppresses the population’s sexual desire with a drug that numbs them from the waist down (but does not render them infertile, as that is seen as unethical and violative of the religious principles of many).
Overpopulation is just a concept, not a number.
What I mean is that “over” is defined only at that point where it begins to cause problems that do not occur at lower levels. Socially, some of these things can be feelings of redundancy, lack of value to your community, feeling anonymous, being lost in the shuffle, feeling replaceable and not unique, inability to achieve success at the top of a field / top of the class due to competition, and the frustrated desire for fame or notoriety.
So, yes, the fact that people can be despondent about things exacerbated by an increased population is in itself an argument for overpopulation.
In other words, you’re thinking about it backward. Problems define overpopulation, overpopulation does not “create” problems.