Like all other places on the internet, this site has an anti-suicide slant. Or call it “support”. That’s fine.
But where does one go to discuss truly pro-suicide thoughts, feelings and philosophies, without the tiresome, hypocritical “don’t do it” from other supposedly suicidal folk?
You can check my past posts to see how often I talk about the scam of “suicide prevention” – a highly lucrative field that encompasses everything from pharmaceuticals to entertainment to selling wrist bands. The news is full of “heroes” who “save” a suicidal person, but nobody prints the follow up story that the suicidal person, after a mandatory 5 day hold and a bill of $5000, went ahead and killed themselves the following month.
As such, I have wholly embraced a pro-suicide stance. You’ll notice I’m never the one to offer empty comfort or “hope” because I read your posts and think to myself that death would be a blissful release for you, just as it would be for myself.
But I have to watch what I say because god forbid you embrace the philosophy of PRO CHOICE when it comes to a person’s own life. I just wish I could talk with like-minded people. Suicide could be a beautiful thing if we stop demonizing it as well as anyone who is in favor of it.
(And no, I’m not going to sign up for Exit International and pay $100 a year dues just to speak my mind openly. They are a moneymaking scam just as bad as Suicide Prevention.)
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I dont have something to say…. i agree with you,in part actually. Fuck the others and they selfish world, but if someperson have some chance to be happy, had hope its what i talking, i think he/she shloud grab it.
I wont blame if the same person that grab that hope give up, the world is vad and cruel, and if this same person still tried to live that prove that he/she was more strong that the assholes that say: suicide is a sin, dont kill urself its just a phase.
Im not pro suecide, im a fuckin hipocrite that say to people try to live, but i want die too
(Im from Brasil, really sorry if my english sucks)
That’s a good point. I think if someone has a chance at happiness they should go for it.
For example, I hate hearing about suicides because of breakups. The emotional sting is bad at first, but it really does go away eventually.
But like you said, other things are not “just a phase”. Hardcore depression doesn’t go away, it just gets deeper over time. And the older you get the harder it is to pull yourself out of the mess you created.
I discovered this site just two days ago, i think im entering more than whatsapp ou instagtam.
Thanks for said your thought, i agree with it.
More you sink more difficult to not drown
I think the same thing about the Suicide Prevention after that stupid experience I had when I tried to call their hotline number. I was very stupid that time and very hopeless but maybe not that hopeless since I dialled their number looking for some hope but all I got is them saying that I’m just being a big hurdle to their line and that there are many other people waiting in line. Like so fucked up. That’s when I knew SP is one big BS.
Right now, I’m a pro-suicide. It’s about time we try to look at it in a whole different view. Not just some selfish lunatic act but like a hopeful exit. People are just stupid trying to act all know-it-all with their “everything’s gonna be fine” bs.
Also, life is hard but death is easy.
“Not just some selfish lunatic act but like a hopeful exit”
Yes, exactly! I know that sometimes it is a desperate emotional act, but I think for people who have been suffering for years, suicide is a reasonable option. I know we get into legalities, and if you’re not careful you could get thrown in jail for speaking your mind… maybe that’s why sites must maintain the “support” angle.
For what it’s worth, SP isn’t nearly as bad as the other sites where you make a post and immediately, 10 people who probably haven’t even read your post reply with “don’t do it” “life gets better” and “everything’s gonna be fine”
am i pro suicide? well to start off with ive read some of your past posts and completely agree. you have all these people “oh we raised a shit ton of money for…..” just all bullshit. they are just trying to put their face out there to say they helped people. however i find it funny that people like you and i, the ones they raised it for, never see a fucking cent.
back to the question though. i wouldnt say im pro suicide. depending on the case you can be ok. its like i was telling my friend earlier. theres 2 types of depression. you have the one where if you change your surroundings (get a new job, get a hobby) you will be ok. obviously it would be ridiculous to kill yourself over over something that can be fixed. but then you have the second kind of depression. the kind that burrows into your core. the kind that isnt so easily fixed. the kind many if not all of us here has. yes you should try to “get better” there might be a chance you can find something to help. i mean you do occasional read posts from people on here that are “better” but after a while…..a person can only fight for so long and it shouldnt be up to others whether or not we give up. if someone is on life support and conscious of course, they can make their own decision so why cant we?
I like your posts too HDL. And you’re right about the 2 types of depression, one is situational while the other is chronic. Or maybe everything becomes chronic if you suffer long enough…
And here’s one of those opinions that I could never say anywhere else… Maybe even the situational depression is a valid reason for suicide. My reasoning is, once you accept depression/suicide into your life, it never goes away. You may change your surroundings, get a good job, hobby, etc, but depression is just waiting for the day you get fired, or fall into debt, or get dumped, and then you end up right back at the bottom. So maybe it’s best to get it over with in the beginning?
I’m sure we all have a memory of the first day we considered suicide, or our first attempt. Probably years or decades ago. And yet here we are, right back at that low point. So it makes you wonder… would it have been better if we killed ourselves back then? With me I feel like the answer is a big yes.
and people always make that point, yeah but if you killed yourself you would have missed out on a lot of things. yeah things that might have been good at the time but after awhile something happens and it hurts like everything else.
what about your wedding. if you killed yourself that wouldnt have happened
yep thats nice now we argue all the time so i would have saved myself from arguments thats terrible
That is soo true about people predicting what you’ll miss, but they don’t realize that there’s a downside to everything.
True I have never been married, but I have never gone through the pain of divorce or my wife cheating on me. I’m fine quitting the game while I’m ahead (at zero) ha ha
so far theres only one thing that i would miss. i had lost my grandfather for 7 years because my mother is a……..few choice words well say hehe……. but i have him back now and i hope there will be one more thing. because of her i also lost my brothers. i hope to have them back one day too…..of course like everything else im sure that will all be messed up someday too.
Depends on the circumstances, everyone has the right IMO but not just because they had a bad day. Where lines should be drawn I have no idea? But there should be some lines.
Circumstances definitely make a difference. Especially alcohol or drugs could push someone to suicide when it’s not what they really want. I agree suicide shouldn’t be too easy, there should be some lines. Maybe a 3 day waiting period (like getting a gun… maybe the same thing haha)
That was funny! 🙂
Hate to break it to ya buddy, but the truly pro-suicide are six feet under.
Meanwhile, why not join an emo band?
As always, muspelhem, your comments are not remotely productive or in the friendly spirit of the rest of us. Are you off your meds again? (serious question) I’ve noticed you always get randomly rude and patronizing to people, then you take your pills and you come back all nice and apologize. Funny that.
No comment on the med thing.
As for the topic at hand, I’m giving you what could be termed a wake-up call. You can look for more “serious” suicide communities, but they’re still going to be just that: communities of people yapping about suicide.
Why not just admit that part of you doesn’t want to die, and make peace with it?
Also, I think you’re a good guy AXYZ. The topic just annoys me.
SanctionedSuicide is pro choice. It has its merits and its drawbacks.
Pro-choice myself. I once was pro-suicide. I think assistance should be legal to those over 18.
Lol
I laugh but i agree, the world has too much shit to keep live in jt
It’s up to the individual to weigh their best option… I can’t remember who said it, or the exact phrasing but the saying can be summed up as:
“anything worth doing takes time and a full-hearted commitment”
If I recalled it properly, it would be more eloquent.
it all depends honestly, i do believe i’m pro-suicide even tho i’m kinda religious which sounds o weird but sometimes things are truly hard and unchangeable so why should one suffer for some fasle hope that wont ever come, and lets assume things did get slightly better, the person wont feel better, because when u are depressed you think salvation is gonna feel so good so grand that you’ll forget your sadness but the truth is.. you wont
so yeah suicide is sometimes the answer, that doesnt mean to stop seeking help ofc but if it’s a dead end..
and like if u start saying suicide is okey people will start killing themselves the second they feel sad you know. i do think it’s ridiculous the prices of therapy tho like if they really cared they would lower them. not raise imaginary funds that rich people end up taking to fix their rich depression. yeah idk if it made sense but the true thing that no one really cares and sometimes one is seriously better off dead.