…. if humanity is hopeless, if we are fragile, fallible, & hopeless mostly, and if what’s left is only a cold, harsh, cruel, bleak, stupid, meaningless / pointless, & depressing reality / life / society / world / existence, then why keep living? For what purpose? What is the point?
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Here’s something to think about.
Even if there was a God, what would be the point? Even if the world was fluffy, rainbows and pumpkin pies, what would be the point?
The point is always what you say it is. That would hold true even if some “God” told there there was a point, and that would hold true even if you had all the comforts and pleasures in the world.
Camus says it is to rebel. Or something like that.
Anyway, the world doesn’t need to be harsh or cruel. That could be changed.
This has been an ongoing question by philosophers since ancient times. This prompted the author of Ecclesiastes in the bible, a nihilist as well, that everything is vain and pointless. The conclusion he reached was that just follow God since He is the only one who is permanent.
My suggestion is this, just live your life, don’t think too much about it because it’s gonna drive you crazy and this will never be answered in our lifetimes.
I think the problem isn’t that there’s no god. The problem is that we desperately WANT there to be a god. The problem is us.
Think of the animals. Have you ever seen an animal stressing over the existence of god? No. For all we know, they fully accept at birth that the universe is an empty, meaningless place. And yet they live satisfying, productive, ordered and even “happy” lives (take one look at a dog or a cat basking in the sunlight). I think this is because they don’t fret over gods. They understand the universe on a much deeper level than we ever could with our dreams of superheroes and bearded men on golden thrones.
Absolutely.
“IF” (there is no god…), the answer exists in the question itself. If there was a God then we wouldn’t have to ask or wonder about his existence, we’d be living under his tyrannical authority right now that we couldn’t escape.
All we could do was hope he was benevolent, but what if he was like Saddam Hussein as C. Hitchens suggested, who randomly chose to wipe out people willy-nilly or torture them for his own sadistic pleasures? Then we’d be in real trouble.
Of course there are no gods, so enjoy your freedom from divine beings. However you still have to deal with humanity and that’s a major problem in itself.
What’s the meaning of life? None, we create our own meaning. For me it’s about enjoying the best that life offers.
While 80 yrs seems like a long time, we are finite beings and life can end at any time and we can even make the decision to end it.
Though I’ve suffered a lot and had many bad experiences, the early part of my life was pretty amazing. So I know I can do things to make my life as good as it once was.
All I really need is great food, music, a beautiful partner, good friends, enough money to travel and meet my needs/wants and I’ll be happy. That’s something I’m working on right now-to get well established.
I wish I could fix the world. I feel sorry for those born into terrible lives, in poverty for example or abusive homes, but I can’t do jack for anyone else, so I simply focus on myself which is a lot of work on its own.
And really that what each of us has to do, fix our own mess even if we didn’t choose it. If it is ‘un-fixable’ then one can always choose to leave this world. I came close to doing that a few times in my life and if it really gets bad for me, then I will ‘exit.’
Life can be great if you have all the things I mentioned earlier. If however one is burdened with nothing but endless suffering, hopelessness, no chance for improvement, then I personally would find a way to gracefully end it.