I was watching Frank Zappa perform, thinking about what a genius he was, and that’s not a word I bandy about often. He was at worst a once in a century talent, at best? once in a thousand years? Once in 10,000, but only if we had better musical recordings that old. But he’s dead, he’s been dead for 29 years, 30 in December. Most of my life he’s been dead.
He’s in the pile of people that coexisted with me briefly, but was dead before I was aware of them. I didn’t get around to learning about him until at best 2011,17 years on after his death. There are some of those that were narrow, like Logan Whitehurst who died in 2006… I’m not actually sure of when I became aware of him, he’s so knit into my personality
Then there are those that were alive while I was aware of them, like Kurt Vonnegut, but I never met them. This brings up the most regret…. if only I could have met them, it would be really nice to know more people while they’re still alive.
but all my grandparents and their siblings are dead. About 1/3rd of my uncles are dead… Sooner or later I’m going to lose a cousin, I might have already. See, one dropped off the map, and she could be dead.
but I’m at the point in my life I’ve known so many people, I can’t keep up with replacing the ones that die while I’m aware of it. My 5th grade English teacher died. It’s just, the world is poorer for losing them. I wonder who else that is true of, it’s so much easier to say when someone is dead than when they are alive.
But then there are people that I’m borderline glad they’re dead, Pat Robinson passed recently, awful bigot got way too many years. But even so, someone must miss him.
That’s part of what keeps me here, because I’d rather exist unexceptional than be a blank space where I once was. That’s the only afterlife I really believe in, the gap we leave by not being there. At the same time, so many people being gone, never to add another work to make life more tolerable…. sometimes it pulls me towards death.
Most of the people I like are dead, and I like myself, so sooner or later the difference will have to collapse.
But I come from long lived stock. Outside of addiction, people in my family live into their 90s. Which means for another decade yet I’ll have more life ahead of me than is behind me…. And the longer I last, the more people will miss me…. so it’s not necessarily kinder to stay alive. I’m finally old enough people have stopped expecting a bright future out of me, and that’s a relief. I wonder what it’s like to be at an age that even still being alive is more than people expect….
then again, I’m at that age now with myself. If I’d had my way, I’d be long dead. Which is why my expectations on myself are so low; staying alive was more than I thought I had in me.
I’m sincerely jealous of people who death surprises. That sounds wonderful, being too busy with life to think about your expiration date and then pop, dead. Heart attacks, strokes, car accidents, natural disasters…… that’s the Cadillac of death
and I don’t mean a 2010 Escalade, crime against nature that is, no I mean a 1955 El Dorado…. smooth as silk, built like a boat, the original definition of an awesome convertible.
Warren Zevon was another one who was gone before I knew about him, he sings about death a lot. Buddy when I die, put my body in the back, take me to the junkyard with my Cadillac (though in my case it would be my Ford 1996 F250).
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Wouldn’t it be a dream,
Meeting credible visionaries that believed in keeping a person’s soul alive and interactive via AI. You could then talk to your ancestors or a loved one that passed away.
In this era, the stupid ones mess up those dreams and abuse power when they possess anything close to that potential. The future of advanced AI will always start in the hands of a powerful government. Abusing power to find answers. Sad, isn’t it?
ah, but that’s where I’m a skeptic. Dead is dead, no computational power will change that, for the simple fact that no one has bothered to simulate hunger, poverty, depression, and those are where humans learn what makes them beautiful.
Read Player Piano, that’s the apt depiction of the future we find ourselves in now. Most people angry to lack application…. and a few rich or corrupt people eating most of the cheese. Metaphorical cheese of course, because it’s hard to put into words the type of person to own a 100 billion dollar yacht. A boat that costs more than you or I will earn in our entire lifetime, even if given 2000 years of compound interest on that amount.
The type of person to own a yacht like that, they’re as far from a human being as an AI…. so relatively easy to simulate. Mr. Creosote is what it looks like to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aczPDGC3f8U
I meant AI that could replicate human behavior, personality. You could ask a virtual ancestor a personal question about them and they’d answer.
Anything close to that is Gaga comping in “Drink poison” at the end of 911 and removing it. Or “You’re Ugly” “Doctor” “You’re so annoying” etc when changing the comps.
Just, trashy. A tantrum throwing freak. Who does she think she is reciting anything by John Lennon?
Where are the storybook scientists that believe in people? That truly want to help people vs destroying and failing.
at the moment I’d say the storybook scientists are in one of four conditions;
1. Dead, because they belonged to a prior kinder generation.
2. laboring in obscurity, which I think is the most common outcome. It was what I was offered when I showed scientific talent. Sadly I could not be satisfied with obscurity AND low pay, which was the offer. Hence, I am no storybook scientist.
3. untrained, because training either motivates one to labor in obscurity, or to leave the field. In an exceptionally rare case it brings recognition, fame and wealth, but most scientists would be realistic to try and chase one, and all three are nigh impossible, especially for considerate and kind people.
4. ruined. I assume that like many noble professions scientist has it’s cast offs. I might even qualify, I’m published, as I never fail to mention when talking about my intellectual prowess. It’s like going to Harvard, working within the scientific organization scars you such that you have to boast surviving just to get value back. But I really only had a toe in. Some poor sods go all in on the stupid business. Imagine having no other applicable talents, and laboring for tenure that will never be granted. Sounds awful.
Heh, John Lennon……. I have some complicated emotions about that man. Most people these days like to remember him as a splendid wonderful human being, and maybe he was that, but he only managed it at best 65% of the time. He was a fantastic songwriter, and that causes most to overlook his flaws.
In the end I think the best thing for his legacy was his dramatic death. None of the other Beatles managed to make such a splash. If he was alive today, people would probably find him unexceptional…. that’s the disappointing reality of human beings; from a specific distance they’re quite beautiful, but get close enough and they’re less so, and get really close…. well we all have our warts.
It’s why I’ve always considered fame itself a curse. Despite all the advantages, it will make you hated somewhere. No human is without flaw, and so no one can endure fame without infamy.
And our stupid government. We’ll never colonize on the moon.
i know the feeling, I’m consumed by it. The difference is I don’t really care about historical figures and peopleI’ve never personally met. i recognize the loss but not on an emotional level because i was never anything to them, nor they anything to me. but what eats away at me is the tragedy of connecting with someone in a profoundly meaningful way but not making the most of the rare coexistence in this infinity of time. not just loved ones but even cursory meetings that last a minute or two but awaken worlds in this otherwise barren waste. those newborn worlds die when they die. and I’m left wondering what was the fucking point
just realized that you can still connect with people you’ve never met “in a profoundly meaningful way” …ig that’s the whole point… so actually there’s no difference? sucks either way