I hate humans, but as a human, we need human contact/socialization/acceptance/understanding/love. All of those things. Yet it is difficult to come by these days. UGH.
Partly I’d say it’s cultural…I remember a friend of mine who I wasn’t even that close with, his mother was very nice to me and treated me like her second son.
I think older generations and also maybe it’s an immigrant thing, but they seem to care more for one another…and family.
But in western culture, people have become so greedy, selfish, uncaring. I’ve always been a generous, caring person (like my mom), but I had to become more ‘stingy’ because people would take advantage and take me for granted, lack respect for me.
Imagine, seeing people who are good and kind as “weak”…I realized I needed people around me that were more like myself and while nobody’s perfect, I managed to wrangle a few good people in my life.
I also find that people who have suffered a lot in life (not always), tend to be more compassionate, understanding and helpful towards others.
Meanwhile those who’ve had an ‘easy ride’ tend to be fake, superficial and don’t form deep relationships.
I’ve had all kinds of friends over the years…most of them have disappeared from my life…but the quality people have stayed.
Today to “attract” someone…you have to be well off, good-looking, fit, know the right people, etc, etc. If you aren’t “cool” most people don’t care to know you.
Frankly, I consider such people to be sh*theads…I know one person who worships people with big titles/positions and education, I see this a lot in the entertainment and academic fields…they can all FoD for all I care.
Give me some nice, chill people who have a good sense of humor, like to have fun/hang out and I’m fine…even better if they’re educated, because well read people tend to be more interesting…but that’s not essential for me.
Right, partly it is the cultre. American culture, which is all I know, sucks. People are selfish, greedy and superficial as shit as you’ve stated. Which is not to say all non-western cultures are great either- every culture has it’s drawbacks. But yes, western culture in particular is all about oneself, and if you are nice, you get taken advantage of and are seen as weak. ESP the culture lately.
Holy cow, even for western culture, this hasn’t been so bad as it is now- all this “simp” and “alpha” shit. Anyone who isn’t selfish and dominating is seen as a “simp” and bad and weak. When I’d rather meet someone who is agreeable and nice and accomodating and not “an alpha.” Like WHO the hell wants to be around alpha’s? I don’t. Yet, nice guys are labeled as “simps” and so every guy thinks he should go around acting like a douche- and wonder why they can’t get girls.
And in terms of friendships, ppl throw that term out like candy. No, most ppl who call others friends aren’t friends- they act and treat others like acquaintances. Someone you know who you hang out with and talk to occasionally.
Western culture is all about “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” when in reality, ALL of the successful ppl have done it *because* they received help from someone, usually a well to do family, *especially* the so-called “self-made” millionaires. People who were given opportunities and resources that others did not have.
Totally, I should’ve added it’s not to say other cultures are superior to western…some are better in some ways to other cultures than others.
I think generally it’s tied up with money…poor people tend to have little and so they need to form tight-knit communities to keep everyone alive and doing ok. So they are more caring/compassionate since they have to be and their religions reflect that.
Capitalist societies tend to breed competition and one upsmanship…hence the greed and lack of care for one’s friends/neighbors, family, etc.
You’re right about all those labels about ‘simps’ and the hierarchy for men. It’s a load of crap. Sure at the ‘extremes’ of behavior some men do excessively suck up to women but that’s a small portion.
And like you said a guy being nice to a girl can wrongly be seen as a simp or a suck up. There are some dumb ideologies out there, that tell men they’re better off without women and some feminist ideologies say the same thing about men.
People need to be careful about the junk they read and learn about…take it with a grain of salt. In a healthy relationship there’s always give and take…if you want someone to be a life partner, they’ll be there to help/support and love you, that’s not simping, it’s normal.
Yes sadly nowadays it’s hard to find true friends any more…now it’s just a bunch of superficial relationships and you can’t count on anyone. In high school I had a couple of dozen friends and the ones I considered very close/best friends were always there for me…it was great.
For sure, very few people make wealth on their own. Much of that is a combination of luck and hard work…but usually luck. Most of the wealth people have has been passed down. They say 99% of businesses fail the first 5 years…there are good reasons for that.
So at least for people in our situation, the only way to get out of a lower class is to get a well paying job…and maybe if you dabble in other things you might be fortunate and get rich but the odds are low. You’re totally right about connections too. If you know the right people one phone call could get you a gig that pays a million or more…its how the rich get rich and even richer.
I should add, I had a somewhat ‘good friend’ for about 10 years, but then eventually we parted ways because he was threatened by my education.
He did some college but he couldn’t finish because of a lack of money…so I think that was always a sore point for him. It meant nothing to me as I valued his friendship for other reasons and for things we had in common.
But he had a tendency to call anyone with an education ‘arrogant’ and ‘snooty.’ I called him out on it one time…and calmly explained that I poured my blood, sweat and tears into getting my degree which few people get accepted for and even fewer graduate from.
While it was a huge accomplishment for me, I didn’t go around rubbing it in everyone’s face and not that people would even care.
Ofc he started calling me arrogant/stuck up, etc…I told him why can’t someone be proud of their achievements when it has nothing to do with you and they’re not putting you down for not finishing his education.
Unfortunately, he just couldn’t accept that it’s possible to be proud of achieving something and yet not be arrogant about it.
I think probably at a deeper level, he hated/resented educated people because he couldn’t be in our ‘elite club’ (from his perspective) …he wrecked a friendship over his own insecurity. He cut ties with me…we talked once or twice after, but then he stopped responding. His loss as far as I’m concerned.
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Partly I’d say it’s cultural…I remember a friend of mine who I wasn’t even that close with, his mother was very nice to me and treated me like her second son.
I think older generations and also maybe it’s an immigrant thing, but they seem to care more for one another…and family.
But in western culture, people have become so greedy, selfish, uncaring. I’ve always been a generous, caring person (like my mom), but I had to become more ‘stingy’ because people would take advantage and take me for granted, lack respect for me.
Imagine, seeing people who are good and kind as “weak”…I realized I needed people around me that were more like myself and while nobody’s perfect, I managed to wrangle a few good people in my life.
I also find that people who have suffered a lot in life (not always), tend to be more compassionate, understanding and helpful towards others.
Meanwhile those who’ve had an ‘easy ride’ tend to be fake, superficial and don’t form deep relationships.
I’ve had all kinds of friends over the years…most of them have disappeared from my life…but the quality people have stayed.
Today to “attract” someone…you have to be well off, good-looking, fit, know the right people, etc, etc. If you aren’t “cool” most people don’t care to know you.
Frankly, I consider such people to be sh*theads…I know one person who worships people with big titles/positions and education, I see this a lot in the entertainment and academic fields…they can all FoD for all I care.
Give me some nice, chill people who have a good sense of humor, like to have fun/hang out and I’m fine…even better if they’re educated, because well read people tend to be more interesting…but that’s not essential for me.
Right, partly it is the cultre. American culture, which is all I know, sucks. People are selfish, greedy and superficial as shit as you’ve stated. Which is not to say all non-western cultures are great either- every culture has it’s drawbacks. But yes, western culture in particular is all about oneself, and if you are nice, you get taken advantage of and are seen as weak. ESP the culture lately.
Holy cow, even for western culture, this hasn’t been so bad as it is now- all this “simp” and “alpha” shit. Anyone who isn’t selfish and dominating is seen as a “simp” and bad and weak. When I’d rather meet someone who is agreeable and nice and accomodating and not “an alpha.” Like WHO the hell wants to be around alpha’s? I don’t. Yet, nice guys are labeled as “simps” and so every guy thinks he should go around acting like a douche- and wonder why they can’t get girls.
And in terms of friendships, ppl throw that term out like candy. No, most ppl who call others friends aren’t friends- they act and treat others like acquaintances. Someone you know who you hang out with and talk to occasionally.
Western culture is all about “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” when in reality, ALL of the successful ppl have done it *because* they received help from someone, usually a well to do family, *especially* the so-called “self-made” millionaires. People who were given opportunities and resources that others did not have.
Totally, I should’ve added it’s not to say other cultures are superior to western…some are better in some ways to other cultures than others.
I think generally it’s tied up with money…poor people tend to have little and so they need to form tight-knit communities to keep everyone alive and doing ok. So they are more caring/compassionate since they have to be and their religions reflect that.
Capitalist societies tend to breed competition and one upsmanship…hence the greed and lack of care for one’s friends/neighbors, family, etc.
You’re right about all those labels about ‘simps’ and the hierarchy for men. It’s a load of crap. Sure at the ‘extremes’ of behavior some men do excessively suck up to women but that’s a small portion.
And like you said a guy being nice to a girl can wrongly be seen as a simp or a suck up. There are some dumb ideologies out there, that tell men they’re better off without women and some feminist ideologies say the same thing about men.
People need to be careful about the junk they read and learn about…take it with a grain of salt. In a healthy relationship there’s always give and take…if you want someone to be a life partner, they’ll be there to help/support and love you, that’s not simping, it’s normal.
Yes sadly nowadays it’s hard to find true friends any more…now it’s just a bunch of superficial relationships and you can’t count on anyone. In high school I had a couple of dozen friends and the ones I considered very close/best friends were always there for me…it was great.
For sure, very few people make wealth on their own. Much of that is a combination of luck and hard work…but usually luck. Most of the wealth people have has been passed down. They say 99% of businesses fail the first 5 years…there are good reasons for that.
So at least for people in our situation, the only way to get out of a lower class is to get a well paying job…and maybe if you dabble in other things you might be fortunate and get rich but the odds are low. You’re totally right about connections too. If you know the right people one phone call could get you a gig that pays a million or more…its how the rich get rich and even richer.
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I should add, I had a somewhat ‘good friend’ for about 10 years, but then eventually we parted ways because he was threatened by my education.
He did some college but he couldn’t finish because of a lack of money…so I think that was always a sore point for him. It meant nothing to me as I valued his friendship for other reasons and for things we had in common.
But he had a tendency to call anyone with an education ‘arrogant’ and ‘snooty.’ I called him out on it one time…and calmly explained that I poured my blood, sweat and tears into getting my degree which few people get accepted for and even fewer graduate from.
While it was a huge accomplishment for me, I didn’t go around rubbing it in everyone’s face and not that people would even care.
Ofc he started calling me arrogant/stuck up, etc…I told him why can’t someone be proud of their achievements when it has nothing to do with you and they’re not putting you down for not finishing his education.
Unfortunately, he just couldn’t accept that it’s possible to be proud of achieving something and yet not be arrogant about it.
I think probably at a deeper level, he hated/resented educated people because he couldn’t be in our ‘elite club’ (from his perspective) …he wrecked a friendship over his own insecurity. He cut ties with me…we talked once or twice after, but then he stopped responding. His loss as far as I’m concerned.