I do for now but plan on moving to California which isn’t much better. I think its bad everywhere now. Some just hide it better than others. TPTB really do want us all dead or to experiment on.
I got a really bad vibe off of Oregon, but the West Coast and me don’t get on in general. My bipolar BPD cousin lives in Oregon.
I think Oregon might be a Liberal Armpit, the way Oklahoma is a Conservative one. Stupidity isn’t the sole perogative of a single party sadly.
However involuntary commitment laws are everywhere at least in the states. Once they get you in the hospital you aren’t getting out, it took me two months when they locked me up. This was even after I realized where I was and understood full well that I was now going to have to song and dance my way to freedom. I was only psychotic for maybe a few days, and it cost me months of my freedom, and years of physical recovery from their awful drugs.
I’m still pissed that medical professionals don’t know that psychotic depression is a thing. Doctors, incompetent doctors. They won’t let you near a computer so I couldn’t have found out until I got out and got over the trauma, which took a long time.
Involuntary commitment is so fucked up, I can’t believe they still do this shit in the 21st century. It’s basically the modern equivalent of being accused of being a witch.
I’m not in Oregon but it happened to me just the same. I’m sure every state has their own fine print. Cops busted down my door while I was asleep and hauled me off to the macademia farm before I’d even realized wtf was happening. Rights? No fucking rights. Phone call? Lawyer? Nope. Accused murderers have more rights than a depressed person. So shut up and get used to wearing grippy socks because it’s gonna be a long stay.
Yeah my ex-wife was Bipolar and BPD and she wanted to kill me and herself more than once. She even told the cops she was gonna kill me and kept hitting me when they had to come take her away. But they never kept her for more than 72 hours no matter her condition. Now like usual the government wants to go from one extreme to the other. Oregon has a real bad vibe to it ever since c19 its only gotten way worse. I either leave this place soon or I will end it all.
Yeah, the problem is that with everything- they use a blanket rule for EVERYONE. Whatever the fuck happened to CRITICAL THINKING and deciding based on each INDIVIDUAL case?
Usually bc of ONE high profile fuck up- they institute a blanket policy that fucks up way MORE ppl.
Some major problems: a person cannot get in-patient treatment unless they are deemed a danger to themselves or others. Making it easier for a judge to commit does nothing to address this problem.
Involuntary commitment is widely abused for profit. Patients are threatened with commitment unless they agree to stay “voluntarily”. If you are threatened, then how is that “voluntary”? When insurance runs out, the patient is dumped on the street.
In-patient facilities are mainly for passing out drugs to “stabalize” the patients. There is almost no actual “help” of any kind.
Patients are denied their rights. A state’s law might say on paper that a patient is required access to an attorney and the right to attend the commitment hearing, but the patient will never be told about this.
It’s always “he finally got the medications he needed”. We never hear the rest: “He finally got the medications that caused horrific side effects, and possibly long-term physical damage. The medication only worked for a certain period of time, then they had to increase the dosage until finally it stopped working altogether. Then we had to start over by trying 12 other medications until we finally found one that worked, and the whole cycle started over again.”
That’s exactly what burns me up so much. “Normies” hear that someone “got the help they needed” and assume that’s the happy ending, roll credits and bouncy exit music because the system works.
A while back I posted this story about a woman who attempted jumping off the same parking deck 3 times before she succeeded. Even the news story is deliberately vague, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that she attempted once, got involuntarily committed, released and immediately attempted again, involuntarily committed agin, released and immediately attempted again, this time succeeding.
I wish the world had noticed. I wish the news had broadcast this far & wide instead of relegating it to vague redacted snippet where we don’t even get her name. I wish her death had blown up the entire mental health fantasy, crashed the pitiful system and led to real changes. But the bottom line is that society would rather believe that the system works. Suicidals are locked up, fixed, and set free, all better. Here comes that bouncy exit music again.
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I do for now but plan on moving to California which isn’t much better. I think its bad everywhere now. Some just hide it better than others. TPTB really do want us all dead or to experiment on.
I got a really bad vibe off of Oregon, but the West Coast and me don’t get on in general. My bipolar BPD cousin lives in Oregon.
I think Oregon might be a Liberal Armpit, the way Oklahoma is a Conservative one. Stupidity isn’t the sole perogative of a single party sadly.
However involuntary commitment laws are everywhere at least in the states. Once they get you in the hospital you aren’t getting out, it took me two months when they locked me up. This was even after I realized where I was and understood full well that I was now going to have to song and dance my way to freedom. I was only psychotic for maybe a few days, and it cost me months of my freedom, and years of physical recovery from their awful drugs.
I’m still pissed that medical professionals don’t know that psychotic depression is a thing. Doctors, incompetent doctors. They won’t let you near a computer so I couldn’t have found out until I got out and got over the trauma, which took a long time.
Involuntary commitment is so fucked up, I can’t believe they still do this shit in the 21st century. It’s basically the modern equivalent of being accused of being a witch.
I’m not in Oregon but it happened to me just the same. I’m sure every state has their own fine print. Cops busted down my door while I was asleep and hauled me off to the macademia farm before I’d even realized wtf was happening. Rights? No fucking rights. Phone call? Lawyer? Nope. Accused murderers have more rights than a depressed person. So shut up and get used to wearing grippy socks because it’s gonna be a long stay.
But… but… ‘help is available!’
Yeah my ex-wife was Bipolar and BPD and she wanted to kill me and herself more than once. She even told the cops she was gonna kill me and kept hitting me when they had to come take her away. But they never kept her for more than 72 hours no matter her condition. Now like usual the government wants to go from one extreme to the other. Oregon has a real bad vibe to it ever since c19 its only gotten way worse. I either leave this place soon or I will end it all.
Yeah, the problem is that with everything- they use a blanket rule for EVERYONE. Whatever the fuck happened to CRITICAL THINKING and deciding based on each INDIVIDUAL case?
Usually bc of ONE high profile fuck up- they institute a blanket policy that fucks up way MORE ppl.
so how come oregon is so fucked up when it comes to mental health? i mean even MORE so than other states (and it’s pretty bad in most states already).
Some major problems: a person cannot get in-patient treatment unless they are deemed a danger to themselves or others. Making it easier for a judge to commit does nothing to address this problem.
Involuntary commitment is widely abused for profit. Patients are threatened with commitment unless they agree to stay “voluntarily”. If you are threatened, then how is that “voluntary”? When insurance runs out, the patient is dumped on the street.
In-patient facilities are mainly for passing out drugs to “stabalize” the patients. There is almost no actual “help” of any kind.
Patients are denied their rights. A state’s law might say on paper that a patient is required access to an attorney and the right to attend the commitment hearing, but the patient will never be told about this.
It’s always “he finally got the medications he needed”. We never hear the rest: “He finally got the medications that caused horrific side effects, and possibly long-term physical damage. The medication only worked for a certain period of time, then they had to increase the dosage until finally it stopped working altogether. Then we had to start over by trying 12 other medications until we finally found one that worked, and the whole cycle started over again.”
“We never hear the rest”
That’s exactly what burns me up so much. “Normies” hear that someone “got the help they needed” and assume that’s the happy ending, roll credits and bouncy exit music because the system works.
A while back I posted this story about a woman who attempted jumping off the same parking deck 3 times before she succeeded. Even the news story is deliberately vague, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that she attempted once, got involuntarily committed, released and immediately attempted again, involuntarily committed agin, released and immediately attempted again, this time succeeding.
https://suicideproject.org/2025/04/help-is-available-right-womans-3rd-suicide-attempt-works/
I wish the world had noticed. I wish the news had broadcast this far & wide instead of relegating it to vague redacted snippet where we don’t even get her name. I wish her death had blown up the entire mental health fantasy, crashed the pitiful system and led to real changes. But the bottom line is that society would rather believe that the system works. Suicidals are locked up, fixed, and set free, all better. Here comes that bouncy exit music again.
https://suicideproject.org/2025/04/help-is-available-right-womans-3rd-suicide-attempt-works/