…pretty bold statement. While i see the point behind it, there’s something to be said about going that far back into things: not healthy at all. Sure, i can blame my existence on my parents, but i could go farther back and blame it on my grandparents, and so on. Maybe he existence of the world is to blame as well, so i’ll go there. Or hey, maybe the universe shouldn’t exist, that way we’d have no suffering. Yeah, modern life has many quirks, and we do go through a lot of pain because of social interactions, technology, and overall human stupidity, but that doesn’t mean we just shouldn’t exist. There should be a choice for people that are in constant pain to cease to exist? yup, but that doesn’t apply to anyone.
Pretty much i just rambled on, but… i don’t know. I really cannot agree completely with that quote heh.
That’s why I don’t want children. I would never want to bring someone into this life and have them suffer the way I do. It’s so unfair that we’re forced to live and to die. I didn’t ask for this shit.
I’m not saying he’s wrong, his quote is just a little.. uhm.. I think ‘bold’ is the right word? I don’t think we should all stop having children, because having kids is such a big goal in so many people’s lives. If they want kids, I say let’s let them have kids. But personally, I don’t think I want kids when I grow up. I can’t decide right now though, ’cause I’m just a teenager who would probably change her mind once I meet the love of my life. But right now, I don’t see the logic in having kids when I hate life and living on this planet. So, I don’t think I agree with this man, because the last statement about having kids is not something we could just proceed. We can’t make the dession for other people that we’re not allowed to have children anymore. But I think he could be right about how (in my opinion: almost) every life is bad.
I think it’s incredibly hard to quantify whether human life (in totality) is a good thing or not. I often find myself with doubts.
However, the existence of those who seem to enjoy and find meaning throughout their lives, despite the suffering they endure, pushes me in the other direction. I would not wish that they had never existed, if I could. To do so would seem a harmful act, not a merciful one.
That we can form a concept of a meaningful and worthwhile life suggests that it is not human life itself that is harmful, but rather the conditions that frustrate it’s flourishing. Many of these are unnecessary byproducts of our social system, and this can be improved.
In short, it’s not that everyone’s life is not worthwhile, just mine 🙂
I am a bit late answering. His statement is over the top. Whether a life is good is entirely subjective, and it isn’t fair to negate the opinion of someone who is happy with their life (which is a lot of people).
As for the bigger picture: we humans are a part of nature, of the universe, the same as anything else that exists. Our lives are neither good nor bad because that is a comparison that nature doesn’t make.
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…pretty bold statement. While i see the point behind it, there’s something to be said about going that far back into things: not healthy at all. Sure, i can blame my existence on my parents, but i could go farther back and blame it on my grandparents, and so on. Maybe he existence of the world is to blame as well, so i’ll go there. Or hey, maybe the universe shouldn’t exist, that way we’d have no suffering. Yeah, modern life has many quirks, and we do go through a lot of pain because of social interactions, technology, and overall human stupidity, but that doesn’t mean we just shouldn’t exist. There should be a choice for people that are in constant pain to cease to exist? yup, but that doesn’t apply to anyone.
Pretty much i just rambled on, but… i don’t know. I really cannot agree completely with that quote heh.
That’s why I don’t want children. I would never want to bring someone into this life and have them suffer the way I do. It’s so unfair that we’re forced to live and to die. I didn’t ask for this shit.
I’m not saying he’s wrong, his quote is just a little.. uhm.. I think ‘bold’ is the right word? I don’t think we should all stop having children, because having kids is such a big goal in so many people’s lives. If they want kids, I say let’s let them have kids. But personally, I don’t think I want kids when I grow up. I can’t decide right now though, ’cause I’m just a teenager who would probably change her mind once I meet the love of my life. But right now, I don’t see the logic in having kids when I hate life and living on this planet. So, I don’t think I agree with this man, because the last statement about having kids is not something we could just proceed. We can’t make the dession for other people that we’re not allowed to have children anymore. But I think he could be right about how (in my opinion: almost) every life is bad.
I think it’s incredibly hard to quantify whether human life (in totality) is a good thing or not. I often find myself with doubts.
However, the existence of those who seem to enjoy and find meaning throughout their lives, despite the suffering they endure, pushes me in the other direction. I would not wish that they had never existed, if I could. To do so would seem a harmful act, not a merciful one.
That we can form a concept of a meaningful and worthwhile life suggests that it is not human life itself that is harmful, but rather the conditions that frustrate it’s flourishing. Many of these are unnecessary byproducts of our social system, and this can be improved.
In short, it’s not that everyone’s life is not worthwhile, just mine 🙂
I am a bit late answering. His statement is over the top. Whether a life is good is entirely subjective, and it isn’t fair to negate the opinion of someone who is happy with their life (which is a lot of people).
As for the bigger picture: we humans are a part of nature, of the universe, the same as anything else that exists. Our lives are neither good nor bad because that is a comparison that nature doesn’t make.