So my drunk son, now 39 seems to believe I’ve never been there for him despite the fact his own mother walked out of our lives when he was just 2 years old so I raised both him and his sister since birth. He likes to wallow in self pity and play the victim after racking up multiple DUI and other charges. The kids mother has NEVER so much as offered a single cent to their upbringing or well being
Anyway, I believed for a long time that I was an inadequate father and some time ago I quit drinking and got myself into rehab and have stayed with it ever since. A few years ago I took out a life insurance policy on my life to have something to leave to them both and recently inherited my father’s house. I fully intended to split my estate equally between my kids, but lately I’m seriously reconsidering to leave everything to my daughter.
This all started last night when I told my son he needs to get vaccinated against covid, but he refused and went on his usual drunk rant about how I was never there for him. Yesterday I was in the hospital for what I thought was another heart attack and 4 different people came in the ER while I was there for a few hours and were all intubated and put on ventilators.. I mentioned to him to get vaccinated..Up until just last month he was living in our home and driving our van and eating our food and I was paying his phone bill and yet I did nothing for him.
He’s about to find out just what its like to have a dad do nothing for him. I’ve had it.. I AM DONE!
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You know, I was a lot like your son in terms of living arrangements and blaming, but with me, it was my mom, not my dad, and he abandoned me before I was even born and never offered support, as well. I wouldn’t say I was a complete ingrate, but up until the day my mother passed away due to complications of renal failure, I don’t think I ever fully appreciated all the sacrifices she made and all the love and care she offered me. Instead, I spent much of that time wishing I’d never been born, thinking that if only I didn’t exist, my mom might have had a shot at a normal life, with a man who loved her as much as she did him, and a child or children they both conceived and raised together, you know, the way it’s SUPPOSED to be. I only just (I’m 50 now) got a handle on what being grateful truly means, and I’ve had some pretty awful tests of that gratitude since its discovery. Before that, I was slowly slipping down into existential depression from the moment my mother passed away until just over a year ago, and I was just generally depressed years prior to that, as we were stuck living together, both of us staring at our own versions of dead end lives, neither of us able to do a single thing to help each other because there was too much resentment over what we were both doing to each other, both consciously and unconsciously. I often wonder why she never kicked me out. I even told her that she ought to, that she deserved to be happy, even if it meant shutting me out of her life. Part of me wanted her to do that, because then I’d be at a crossroads, and I’d have to decide whether to let life steamroll me, or if I’d value myself enough to get the help I needed and rejoin the world in some way. In the end, that is exactly what happened, and I decided my life was worth living, but only if I could do so honestly and stop punishing myself so severely for my faults, instead owning and correcting them as best I could.
I don’t know if any of this will help you, because based on my experiences, there wasn’t anything I could have done differently. It wasn’t as though I’d given up, just that nothing I’d attempted panned out. I’m not a very motivated person when it comes to material trappings, so it’s difficult for me to set career goals, since any job will do as long as I can live comfortably and feel like my work is valuable and valued. One thing I will say, however, is that addicts are not people you can help, they are only people you can enable. I don’t have an addictive personality, thankfully, but I did use marijuana as a crutch when I was having a hard time finding a job or any form of happiness, and because it ended up pushing everyone away, it made it far more difficult finding a new job than it needed to be. I’m sure I’d have given up entirely had I not made the wise and financially necessary decision to quit. I sincerely hope that you’re able to get through to your son, but ultimately you need to see him for who and what he is, and if there is a decent part of him, find a way to communicate with it and make it clear that you’ve reached your limit and things WILL change, one way or another. He’s 39. You did your job. It’s time for you to find some peace and relaxation (and maybe even some appreciation!) in your golden years.
I hate to see people struggling with addicted family members. I thought that would be what I liked about child welfare; getting a chance to help those families. Many addicts will turn it around if there is a chance they won’t have custody or access to their kids. In the end I saw the same awful behavior from my supervisors as I got from my clients. Putting on a good face just enough to keep me fighting for a relationship.
Due to my health problems I am currently entirely dependant on my parents to pay bills and eat. It isn’t pleasant, but it is better than being in the hospital for a month because my ability to heal has drastically decreased. I want my freedom and self respect, whatever it takes to get there. I tried to get there with my career, and that crashed and burned. Now I’m trying to move towards needing less, being self sufficient.
Kids’ll break your heart at least once. You see them making the mistakes you made and want to spare them the pain, and they can be stubborn about doing it their way. I don’t think it reflects poorly on you, rather our society has failed to allow men healthy emotional range, thus many of us self medicate to avoid feeling.
drunk people say the various pathetic miserable things that they say not because they believe it, but because they need an excuse when don’t want to put work into working on themselves, and because they are lonely so they crush and destroy people around them only to have someone to drink with.
drunk people mostly don’t even understand what they are saying, the meaning and weight of their words.
but you come here, to a site full of people who already have plenty of problems of their own, to the point where they are suicidal, problems which often already include substance abuse, and you write them the most miserable things you can come up with.
and i am actually starting to think that you are the most negative person i know about, because most people just happen to be more or less miserable in one way or another, but you seem to do this intentionally.
and yes, this comment is almost completely out of context here. it doesn’t have much to do with the post under which i’m putting it.
this post only makes me wonder what happened to the son to make him become an alcoholic. and i don’t even expect people whose first posts look like this to come post again or even read my response.
Ibogaine cures addiction. It can be as simple as that. Ive seen it work 3 times myself.
This has been going on for a while. I too was an alcoholic and drug addicted to heroin. My son has become extremely selfish and self pitying to the point I’m tired of dealing with it. He knows everything I’ve been through, arrests, rehab, homelessness, the works and yet thinks only about himself.
I accepted the BS I put people through and have gone out of my way to make things right. He just wants everyone to feel sorry for his selfishness and lousy behavior instead of doing the things necessary to make his life work.
If this makes me uncaring and the bad guy then so be it. He’s well aware of the nonsense I put myself and others through and what I’ve done to make things right. He just wants to keep using people and when they’re tired of putting up with him it’s their faults.
No more.
This is one, in a long list of reasons, why I’ll never have kids.
Alcohol, drugs, and escapism in any context is simply one’s desperate attempt to abate, take flight of, and avoid this utterly substanceless life. Destroy the mind so as to not feel the pain, but in doing so become hard for anyone round you to live with.
I’ll never put kids into this hell for an existence where seeminly irrational behaviour becomes the only out for some.
How can motivation for betterment/career/survival come from a life so devoid of anything real? Humans being physically, psychically, mentally inadequate for anything must suffer endlessly to attain the tiniest lick of something…anything.
No, judge not those whom appear to leech off “society”, family and friends. Help them if you see any hope of salvation. Avoid, dessert,and cut them out for your own sake and health if you must. Either way we do what we can and must.
We’re all trying our best out here and even that may not be enough. A father doing his level best might see his efforts laid null when the world breaks us all and our children are ground up and spat out in all manner of twisted ****ups from sociopath billionaires to bridge dwelling junkies.
Earth is where sentience comes to die, I’ll not subject new life to this waste.