I erased all my other posts. I have decided not to participate on the ****** site anymore. Why? Because of the bullying/harassment. I am pretty sure everyone who has come here has dealt with some kind of harassment from someone at some time. That is life. BUT…when it spills over into a so called “support site” then that is a place that is NOT safe for those with depression and suicidal tendencies.
I have heard that a few people have stopped coming on here because of the problem of harassment, and I have witnessed it personally, and been the target of it. I am going to point out to others that come here that this is not a place to be if you are experiencing problems in your life, and to stay away from the chat like the plague, as it is nothing but poison.
It truly is sad that some of us who come here for a safe place to talk are harassed even when that is the last thing we need.
20 comments
May I ask what happened exactly? From when I have been on chat there are times when there are heated debates but if you play nice and fairly and in respect of others its a supportive atmosphere.
There are some who come on and intentionally start abuse but on the whole they are dealt with by admins etc.
I know what you mean. ****** isn’t really a nice place for a lot of people.
You are welcome to come by my chat. You might find it a bit different from SP chat.
Someone like Orangish wouldn’t but they are rare and really a lot of the people that are here aren’t much different to anyone else out there. It’s only Chat that keeps people lurking. It’s up to you whether you want to post for peoples entertainment. I restrict myself to comments about horseracing because that’s not very interesting to non-suicidal-racing fans.
Please be specific and clear.
Your problem with your time here has apparently been in a chat room that is not an official part of the Suicide Project. If that’s been where your problems have been, you should be clear in that.
Also, it helps to be specific in your complaints if you want to see things change for the better. Harassed how? By whom? For saying or talking about what??
The assertion that Chat is not a part of the Suicide Project is arbitrary in principle and does not challenge the common sense presumption that it is an essential part of this site. There is a link entitled ‘SP Chatroom’ posted on the main page of the Suicide Project directly underneath ‘about the suicide project’, the rules relating to that site are posted there, the same person that moderates the chatroom also moderates this site. It is difficult to see where the distinction can be made as they are wholly and unequivocally unified.
Websites often evade responsibility for links that feature to affiliated sites by creating a disclaimer that distinguishes between the two, similar to the poorly drafted one you have on this site. In reality, the nature and existence of the link can itself endorse those sites and suggests a common purpose.
This poster is talking about cyber bullying. An issue that extends beyond simply being ignored or expressing an opinion contrary to SP Chat indoctrination; the things people usually complain about. Of course, if a person does not like the chat room or have a bad experience they are advised leave but by then it’s too late and don’t want to return to the main site because that’s what they experienced in a site that they assumed came under the same umbrella and who would honestly blame them for reaching that conclusion.
There are websites where the moderators keep a watchful eye on what’s going on but they aren’t chat junkies, socialisers and don’t get personally involved with the users of those suicide forums and chat sites, remaining impartial. This poster must not have been very important to their requirements.
Suicide Project and SP Chat are just one big happy family. Unless your’e estranged
I think the one of the problem’s on sp chat. Is that you can message people And know one but you can see that there said. I got one yesterday I was having a bad day anyway. Just made me feel worse. JJ room is better. smaller. But wrose to in a way. Because you kind get to know people more.
Let me be clear — the Suicide Project does not run the chat rooms. That is run by an interested and engaged member who also helps with some moderation duties on the Project’s website.
But that individual does not speak for the Suicide Project, and it is not an official part of our work on the site. We post a link to the chat room for convenience sake and because we believe the intent and framework of the chat room he setup is a positive one.
The Suicide Project is this website — that’s it.
If JJ wants her chat link posted on the same page as the current chat link, all she need do is contact me to let me know.
Thanks so much for posting this, I thought I was alone in my hurt and pain from treatment I’ve gotten in sp chat. It seems the people I met there are just like those in life who make me feel useless and worthless, and SP’s response seems to be “so what? Nobody cares. Don’t like it, don’t go!”. It hurt especially to get that attitude from those who should be understanding and sympathetic.
This site is a portal to the chat site and unless the link is featured elsewhere, is the only way to get to the chat site. Although, the people that are responsible for the suicide site are not directly responsible for the chat site, there is an ethical relationship even though you don’t recognise a fiduciary role.
The corporate identity of SP Chat has been created has been created using the branding of the main site to achieve it’s business objectives.
We have no business objectives or fiduciary role, since the site makes no revenues and was never set up to make money. It’s sole purpose is to help people in emotional pain in their lives.
We are not responsible for people who come here — it says that in the READ ME FIRST page too. You are solely responsible for your actions on this site, or when you click on a link posted by a member of this site and follow that link to wherever it may go.
I still see the value in linking to chat rooms, and anybody is welcome to link to any site online (and millions do) without setting up any sort of liability or formal business relationship. It’s been like that since the inception of the Internet.
I’ll make it more clear for you on the chat link page, since you seem to be a stickler for details.
There were several nasty comments on a few of my posts. I won’t say more, because it is pointless to do so. And yes the chat as well, it seems to attract several types of agitators, and by the time you get done defending yourself on either front, here or in the chat, by that time, you feel worse.
To me, any place that has someone egging you on when you are suicidal is not safe. And the site link that leads to a chat that has a community of, bullies is not the proper word, perhaps, but harassers, then it is not a safe environs.
And this site has it’s troublemakers, who have a bad habit of drifting onto the chat…that’s why I initially had a different name there and here, but with them being able to see a portion of your IP, even if you attempt to enter anonymously, you are stalked and abused.
No more of either then for me, and the advice I have for any and all is just to steer clear of both as much as possible. And as for specifics? Why should I speak of things and name names? What purpose would it serve, now? No, thank you kindly.
And endorsed or not, it makes no difference, the members here, HERE, are the ones that go into the chat, the very same who are supposedly sad or sick or suicidal…yet they sow more pain for others, or encourage others to self harm…whether associated or not, a community of problem makers and stalkers and what have you, who abuse others and use both sites, then there is an association, period. Whether one likes it or not.
That last response from the moderator was so snotty.. o_O
It does make a difference, because we have had some very inappropriate individuals both here on the site, and from reports I’ve heard, also in chat.
On the site, we have a very simple reporting system — report a post or comments on a post and they’ll be looked at and removed if they violate our rules here.
Chat rooms vary and it’s up to individual chat room admins to police their own rooms. We are not involved in that.
I am very sorry to hear you were egged on in a comment or in chat to commit suicide. That is highly inappropriate and if we knew who was doing that, we would take actions to reduce their access to the website.
Not really. I was using that as an example. The issue is that the objectives of the chat site are at odds with the objectives of this site. To say that you don’t endorse it to cover your own back from the tiresome complaints is something else. It’s not about setting a prerequisite for the chat site because no matter what the small print says people don’t come here looking at that. Whenever anyone thinks of either SP Chat or the Suicide Project there is misconception that the two are one and the same based on an adverse inference regardless of whether responsibility extends to the administrators of this site.
You are welcome Shinjim…I hope you can find a more supportive place to talk. And hopefully your experiences on the main site have been less cruel.
Lad this isnt really the administrators (of this sight anyway) fault, they set up this sight and this sight alone, the only thing they are responsible for is the idea of this foroum, does anyone here actually think the idea of the forum is a bad one? the thing is they shouldnt have to moderate us, to remove people from here but we cant be decent to eachother, now thats not everyone but some people are genuine arseholes here. The administrators of this sight deal with whats reported to them nd nothing more (or so i believe i could be wrong) and as for the chat room… how many times does it have to be said they have nothing to do with it except having put up a link to stop the constant posting of the link every couple of days/weeks, and even if they were responsible for the chatroom its not like they are the ones posting on it, so its not really their fault or problem what goes on on another page that they dont run.
@geassking im sorry that u had a bad time on here, i dont believe i ever had the good fortune to run across ur post but ive been coming and going too much, but dont let the bad experiences of some of us ruin this sight for u, there are some genuinely decent people on here, please give us one more chance
I posted this as a heads up for other new members so they know what MY experiences were, both here and on anywhere else that stems FROM here. Whether “official” or not, it doesn’t matter, the same jerks on this site are on the chat, and harassing people both here and there. So in my mind, the whole “We have no control…” or “The chat is taken care of by…” run arounds are cop-outs.
I will simply make sure that MY experiences are told and spoken of, and not mention the others I have heard of and the end results of THEIR experiences.
And as for “some decent people on here”, yes, Procel i have met a few. The majority are in fact, good. It’s like the biker community…the 1% gives the rest a bad rap.
But it doesn’t change the fact the 1% are still bikers.
Same applies here. The offenders are known, yet tolerated. Not satisfactory, or even safe. They get their claws in someone who runs off and hurts themselves, wherever the finger points, the end result is the same…someone came looking for help and got hurt. The frantic finger dodging and blame shift doesn’t matter.
Maybe you should read the “READ THIS FIRST” page again:
You can only save yourself and be responsible for your own actions. That means taking self-care measures when you find yourself in what you perceive to be an unsafe environment.
If you’re looking for some ideal, perfect world where you’ll never have to face the potential of being hurt, this isn’t it. Sorry, but that’s just not something we can pretend to offer, because it doesn’t exist. And it’s not something we ever said the Suicide Project was about.
EDITED BY AUTHOR OF POST:
Nice to see that what I was trying to say or do was marginalized, and now the ability to reply has been removed. Good job on taking control of that away from those who were willing to speak.
I never said I wanted what you so snottily implied, I was trying to make others aware of how I was treated. But good old reactionary behaviors and willingness to simply force someone to be quiet because you don’t want to hear is still so prevalent.
Guess I can add this to my list of experiences on here then.
Comments are closed.