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The Suicide Project: What Is Its Purpose?

by Andy2112

It could be a kind of ‘suicide prevention’ site. I think that could be a very good thing, especially considering all of the young anxious, depressed, grieving, lonely, trapped but otherwise healthy individuals who have so much potential for a decent life, their suicides would indeed be premature and tragic. Such youngsters could really benefit from interaction with others who have gone through similar experiences, perhaps developed coping skills, and survived to enjoy a better life and tell about it.

It could be a kind of site where people logically and rationally discuss quality of life issues and whether or not suicide (perhaps euthanize is the better term) is a humane and sensible option.

It could be both these things and/or whatever users make it.

As for myself, I stumbled upon this site searching for information about euthanasia/suicide. I have never attempted suicide in my life, not for lack of suffering, but for the (instinctive) fear. I feel like I don’t have the balls to commit suicide. Now as I am getting older and acquiring physical health issues (which are apparently here to stay) on top of mental health issues, I am wondering how people do it, how they cultivate the balls to attempt/commit suicide. How does one enable themselves to overcome the fear of killing themselves?

No need to answer, unless you feel the need, just sharing part of my personal dilemma.


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BlueberrySman 12/7/2012 - 4:23 pm

The Purpose of the site is not ambiguous, please read the about section here http://suicideproject.org/about/

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 4:30 pm

Okay, thanks, BlueberrySman. By the way, I do my best to share positively, hopefully, and hopefully helpfully, but I have personal needs to express and share the darkness, maybe I ought do that someplace else, I don’t know, maybe it also helps others?

Procel 12/7/2012 - 4:38 pm

I came on here looking for a partner… a year ago, so i think it does work rather well as a suicide provention method, that said in that year ive managed to refine and discount many different methods but thats not important. As for how people develope a big enough set of balls to attempt/succeed in suicide? thats a mistory to me, prehaps their pain obliterates any and all fear, whatever it is all i can feel when i hear about a suicide is envy of said courage.
Also want to say im sorry to hear about the physical health issues.
Its funny i remember hearing someone say u get out of life what u put into it, yet u (and everyone else on here) dont strike me as a serial killer or something yet here u are, makes u wonder if its worth living a good life at all dosnt it…

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 5:39 pm

>>>prehaps their pain obliterates any and all fear,<<>>Its funny i remember hearing someone say u get out of life what u put into it, yet u (and everyone else on here) dont strike me as a serial killer or something yet here u are, makes u wonder if its worth living a good life at all dosnt it…<<<

In many ways of course we do get out of life what we put into it, but then there are more fundamental (often tragic and traumatic) circumstances beyond our control. Nonetheless, always worth living the good life, or at least knowing you have been a good person, because you get that to go along with the struggle against things beyond your control.

Amakua2309 12/7/2012 - 4:54 pm

Hey Andy,

Did I not explain things in your welcome package? My bad…jk haha
Not only is the purpose of the site ambiguous, so was the above comment…lmao
I wish the site was more in keeping with the guidelines…but in a perfect world eh?

But nonetheless…what you describe is ultimately what the site was originally intended for. As I am not currently suicidal I am not posting…when I first came here…well I posted alot. I even preached the Gospel a time or two…hahaha…thanks Muspelhem…and no I will never forget it…it still makes me laugh…hahaha…but I digress as per usual. Even though I don’t post…I am usually around somewhere. If you have a specific question…you should post it. For example… Q: How do I overcome my instinctive fear of death?…I would not answer…and no one else really should either. But…Q: What is it that keeps us struggling to survive even when we have no purpose? That I might answer…and others would as well. So perhaps you are just asking the wrong questions? I dunno. The same info can be found in different ways is all…ultimately you have to come up with your own answers…even here…cuz we are all different…or rather unique…haha

Soooo…other than that…how are you finding the site so far? I sometimes love it…and sometimes hate it myself. Kinda like life…hehehe

Let me know if you want to talk…or such

Procel 12/7/2012 - 4:57 pm

I hate this moderation crap -_- hey ama <3

rocketman 12/7/2012 - 5:00 pm

TO MEET CHICKS! just joking Ama said it all HI Ama!

Amakua2309 12/7/2012 - 5:02 pm

Hey Hey Procel….loved your comment btw…read it while it was awaiting moderation…was wondering why it was held up myself. Nice to “see” you lad.

Love ya

Amakua2309 12/7/2012 - 5:04 pm

Hey Hey Rocketman…ummm sorry Andy…this here is what is known as a high-jacking. I see ya Rockingman…but I hesitate to respond on the post of unsuspecting souls…hahaha…and yet here I am doing it. Hey…didn’t you and Andy meet in the beginning…or was it just me?…lol And yep…pick up chicks is right…the old hens are more suspicious…hehehe

Love ya

Amakua2309 12/7/2012 - 5:07 pm

Ohhhh Andy

Are you still here? Do you know how to moderate your own post? Would you like to know? Procel has a nice comment waiting for ya in moderation.

Love ya

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 5:24 pm

I enjoyed reading the comments, including (maybe especially) the hi, high, and hijacking. Moderate my own post, hmmm…

Procel 12/7/2012 - 5:21 pm

*procel has a random piece of shit in moderation* is what u shoulda said ama :-p ya know something my bible preaching friend :-p ? i missed ya 😀

Duke of Marmalade 12/7/2012 - 5:26 pm

People post stuff for other people to write stuff about.

Procel 12/7/2012 - 5:31 pm

Like a facebook for damaged and mentally fucked up people

Duke of Marmalade 12/7/2012 - 5:33 pm

I will however ensure that everyone is up to date on the latest sporting events

BlueberrySman 12/7/2012 - 5:34 pm

I like to believe that this site has helped people (I know it saved my life), and I hope it will continue to help and posibliy save many more lives.

I understand that an adult may have a terrible life and want it to end, its the teens I think this site really helps, because they are greeted by all of you who listen and provide advice and prevent them from making rash decisions.

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 5:50 pm

This site has certainly helped me get through recent days, and I feel good thinking maybe I have eased someone else’s pain, if only a little, or given them another option they did not consider.

I am with you 100% regarding the teens. I do not underestimate the depth of their pain and their suffering because I know of my own, but I also know how much more likely a person is to commit suicide when in the throes of suicidal depression without the experience of recovering from it, so they really need to know from others who have gone through suicidal depression and recovered that the horrible feelings they have now will not (most likely) be for life. Depression is so insidious, it can be impossible to see or comprehend a way out…mental illness in general, so insidious.

Scar504 12/7/2012 - 5:42 pm

Wow, asking what the “purpose” of a website is, we’re really getting teleological now–but i guess that’s why most people are here right? I am a website nihilist; there’s no meaning in websites, after the server payments stop they are deleted–there is no afterlife for them. Why would an “all loving” website designer create these beautiful things just to be judged for their inadequecies?

Also, i think you addressed the two main uses of this site: 1. to help troubled people rethink their decisions before they hurt themselves(“i’m going to overdose on dishsoap”) and 2. to discuss suicide and why we should or shouldn’t do it. Although i think the intedned use of this site was simply to be a forum for people to communicate with other like minded individuals. Doesn’t really matter though; people will use it for whatever they fancy.

Amakua2309 12/7/2012 - 5:42 pm

@Andy….sometimes comments are held for moderation up to 24 hrs. I believe…if you go to the comments page…it will be highlighted in yellow or sumpin’. Hover over it and options magically appear…otherwise admin will eventually do so. Usually it happens with certain users or if you include a link. In this case…who the hell knows eh?

@Procel….I missed torturing you as well…hehehe Did I hear there is a new lady in your life?

People post stuff for other people to write stuff about…couldn’t have said it better myself my friend…so succinct and to the point…hahaha very Duke eh?

@BlueberrySman…this site also saved a wretch like me…and I am far from a teenager…hahaha…how about you?

Love to All

BlueberrySman 12/7/2012 - 5:48 pm

@Amakua, I am on the wrong side of 30 myself, and my story would only give you nightmares, but I am much better now. One could even say I am happy again. I am glad this site helped you, I hope your life continues to improve.

Procel 12/7/2012 - 5:49 pm

@Andy so u believe in an after life? otherwise why would u want to live a good life?
@Ama well i imagine u saw that there was unless ur computer reads for u 😉 but yes there is a new girl, nd for the record i never considered it torture chillen with u 🙂

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 6:00 pm

I want to live a good life, and I like to be a good person, regardless an afterlife. Obviously, I do not know what happens when I die, I believe if there is something good after this human life then I am destined for it. Something happened to my comment to you above, things are missing between the >>>’s.

Duke of Marmalade 12/7/2012 - 6:03 pm

I don’t use any other chat rooms or forums. This is the only place that I can say something but all my old posts have been deleted. I had a lot to say for myself and then it occurred to me that there was nothing left to say. I now feel about this site as I do everything else. Just as in the real world when you convey a more positive or uncaring impression as a defence mechanism.

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 6:17 pm

@Procel (and anyone else interested): My belief is that all human actions (including thoughts) are recorded, if not by some Mighty Being, then by the energy and the matter of being itself, and since I believe being is ultimately good, I believe there is some type of eventual correction of evil and wrong-doing.

Duke of Marmalade 12/7/2012 - 6:23 pm

Great. If karma is real then I reckon I’m due a lottery win any moment now.

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 6:30 pm

🙂 but the pddkharma dpkdharma exchange might take place before during and/or after this human form.

Procel 12/7/2012 - 6:36 pm

@Andy by that logic thinking about killing yourself will get you the same punishment as actually doing it, looking in a shop window and seeing an open till with no one guarding it and thinking how easy it would be to go in and take the money is the same thing as doing it, also could u not pass these off as the work of the evil being (i believe for every good there has to be an evil to balance the world so for every god there is a devil) so in theory could u not blame every bad action u take as the tempting of this evil being to such a degree ur only wrong doing is being too weak to resist, in that case what truely good being would punish you for merely being weak?

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 6:50 pm

Actions speak louder than words, and I do not believe thought and action are equivalent, though I believe they are all somehow recorded for posterity. I also do not believe suicide is necessarily a transgression in each and every case. As to the balance and/or battle of good and evil forces, I see it as human illusion, and I believe in an ultimate goodness–I simply choose to believe in it. I suppose I could believe in an ultimate wickedness, or in neither goodness nor wickedness, just some neutral uncaring existence, but I choose to believe in goodness of those three options.

Amakua2309 12/7/2012 - 6:51 pm

Sorry Guys,

Been called out on a family emergency…gotta go now and take my mom to hospital…won’t have a moments peace of mind until I do….so sorry…was looking forward to catching up with everyone and continuing this discussion…but shit…life sucks sometimes. Mom has to come first. If it is something simple perhaps I will catch back up later tonight. Fingers crossed.

Love to All

Andy2112 12/7/2012 - 6:55 pm

Hoping for the best for your mom (and you) Ama.

Procel 12/7/2012 - 6:56 pm

@Andy i like that, a true belief, also why its impossible to have a logical argument with a religious person because faith dosnt work on logic, prehaps thats where i go wrong, but i liked that answer,
@ama 😮 i hope shes ok, nd i want to catch up too, email me? u too andy if u want, nd duke u already have my address. real – foudy @ hotmail . com (spaces are to avoid moderation.)

Duke of Marmalade 12/7/2012 - 7:02 pm

@ Amakua hope everything is ok

@ Procel I know, I just haven’t been in that sort of mood. Lucy emails me often and I like it but it’s difficult when you have nothing positive to contribute.

muspelhem 12/7/2012 - 7:26 pm

Who cares what the stated purpose is?

This site is organic, it’s whatever you want it to be.

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