Does anyone think that there actually exist people who can touch higher states of life or universe or w/e Or do people just sit around for six years deluding themselves to believing they can…?
But there are so many out there claiming it real… Not just the orthodox religious type, but scientists and doctors and engineers, some(Of the the ones I’ve read) even say they were atheistic at some point, till they found spirituality. Some are even quite famous in their fields…
I think it’s easier to believe that throughout all of human history.. some people have managed to manipulate their thoughts and views into a better frame.. I mean there are more than enough examples on here of people torturing themselves and actively making their lives worse through self-sabotage.. The opposite has to be true.
Even if it’s a form of self delusion through religion.. if the end result is a form of inner peace.. the result matters.
I cant say that I know of a person who can reach “enlightenment” or commune with the universe but I can personally attest that I was an agonstic (someone who believes in a higher power but is unsure of what it is) and now im a christian because God spoke to me (i was sober fyi). I cant just talk with him, he doesn’t just appear when i am at my lows (which is very often btw) but I do know how to find peace, even if its only momentarily. a place where my pain, my stress, my concerns will leave me be and all there is around me is the sound of the world, and believe me, when all the other noise goes away the world sounds beautiful. once again, drugs are not involved in this process lol. This is something everyone can do but its not always done the same for each person. it can be taught. and while I struggle with the thought of ending my life every day, for a few minutes i can take a break from that. post back if interested, or feel free to ridicule me. its up to you but as I once read (on this site i might add) suicide is the result of your pain exceeding your coping mechanisms. maybe this would make your burden just a bit easier…
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I think you’ll find those people are on drugs.
But there are so many out there claiming it real… Not just the orthodox religious type, but scientists and doctors and engineers, some(Of the the ones I’ve read) even say they were atheistic at some point, till they found spirituality. Some are even quite famous in their fields…
I think it’s easier to believe that throughout all of human history.. some people have managed to manipulate their thoughts and views into a better frame.. I mean there are more than enough examples on here of people torturing themselves and actively making their lives worse through self-sabotage.. The opposite has to be true.
Even if it’s a form of self delusion through religion.. if the end result is a form of inner peace.. the result matters.
I believe there are.
I think you can if your on drugs,Thats what the shamans used to do,But I think if you reach to high of a point that’s when you really really go crazy
and whos the yogi?? Why did you call this post the yogi
I cant say that I know of a person who can reach “enlightenment” or commune with the universe but I can personally attest that I was an agonstic (someone who believes in a higher power but is unsure of what it is) and now im a christian because God spoke to me (i was sober fyi). I cant just talk with him, he doesn’t just appear when i am at my lows (which is very often btw) but I do know how to find peace, even if its only momentarily. a place where my pain, my stress, my concerns will leave me be and all there is around me is the sound of the world, and believe me, when all the other noise goes away the world sounds beautiful. once again, drugs are not involved in this process lol. This is something everyone can do but its not always done the same for each person. it can be taught. and while I struggle with the thought of ending my life every day, for a few minutes i can take a break from that. post back if interested, or feel free to ridicule me. its up to you but as I once read (on this site i might add) suicide is the result of your pain exceeding your coping mechanisms. maybe this would make your burden just a bit easier…