To all you people here who think you want to take your life…
Have you thought about us – the ones that are left behind? Maby you think you have a good reason to end your life – well you dont. Im not saying that noone has a really shitty life, but most of you are just fine.
It makes me really angry, couse I keep thinking about my brothers suicide…. again and again and again and again… I cant believe that he actually end someones life – so f… cruel and violent!!! It doesnt matter whos life it is .
I read in some posts, that you are afraid to kill yourself and that you admire the ones who had the strength to do it. Are you totally crazy? Arent you glad that you are not a kiiler?
I know its not nice to talk bad about the dead, but I sort of hate my bro for doing that to himself. What a jerk! There are no shortcuts in solving your problems. Dieing doesnt solve anything. You will be born again in the same shitty life with the same problems until you will find a way to solve them. And by killing yourself you just prolong your missery. Bravo! What a choice.
Next time do a better job bro! If I can deal with your suicide, you could deal with your problem.
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Dying solves everything. When you don’t exist, there are no problems. Well, none for the dead person to deal with. Not everyone believes in reincarnation, myself included. To me, when you’re dead, you’re dead. I’m sure many people share that viewpoint.
I’m sorry for the loss of your brother and I know it must have been painful for you……however….by no way am I trying to be mean but you sound extremely self centered and selfish….
You start off by saying “have you thought about us?” as if the person who is contemplating death just forgets he or she has a family and only thinks of themselves. Most if not all take account of how their death will affect family members so to say this as if they had no regard for their family is false….also….no matter what reason they choose to end their life whether its petty or not….does not need to be a “good” reason for them to do so….If they don’t want to live they don’t have to it’s as simple as that….they were brought into this life through no will of their own and many people (like myself) would love to have never been thought of…
You go onto to say “it makes you me angry” which is a justified emotion but then you speak of him as if he had taken another persons life like he was an evil murderer or something….He did NOT take his own life……let me repeat that….He …did….not…take his own life…..he gave it up….he didn’t infringe on anybodies rights….and he didn’t violate any contract or promise by doing so….you cannot take your own life from yourself….that statement is misleading and asinine ….ask yourself how you can take something from yourself?….can you take a dollar from yourself? can you steal a car from yourself….something that is yours to begin with cannot be taken by you because you already possess it as yours….saying he took his own life from himself is tantamount to saying he robbed his own car from himself…..now you ask yourself if that makes any sense at all….
Then you go onto to say your brother is a killer…..seriously?…. I mean he did kill himself but it was his life to give up if he wanted to….the term “killer” is used to describe someone who is malicious in the taking of another persons life….you think your brother was evil to take his own life? you consider him crazy for not wanting to be on a fucked up planet where evilness and pain is in abundance? He is the crazy one?
The worse part about this post is that you go on to say you hate your brother for doing that to himself….and then call him a jerk…..no regret or anything…no sorrow….no compassion….just I hate my brother for what he did….hmmm why is that? because you felt pain from his death? What about the pain he felt that made him want to die? what about all the anguish and suffering his problems brought him? nope forget all that huh? he should have just lived with his pain and dealt with it so your happy little life would be unaffected…..is that it?….seems a tad selfish to me but you know…to each his own….
Your right dying doesn’t solve anything thing….it solves EVERY thing….no more existence….no more pain….no more period…. It solves all of his problems…and that reincarnation bullshit is just that….bullshit….once you die you’re dead you don’t come back 20 fucking times like some fucking video game trying to complete a fucking level that’s not how shit works….there have been trillions of people that have lived…we have 7 billion people on the planet….you explain to me how trillions of people are reincarnated with a current population of 7 billion…. you can’t….because once we die that’s it end of the line end of story case closed….
If you can deal with his suicide then great….I’m glad you did …it goes to show that people who are left behind are able to accept it recover and move on from it….just like any other death…so again I’m sorry about your brothers death and I hope you aren’t offended by my POV but I had to address the things wrong with this post….
couple typos in there but whatever…
Excuse me, but, FUCK. OFF. You…you don’t understand…Just because you think that everything is ok with our lives to the point of where it doesn’t hurt us, doesn’t mean that it’s true. We do hurt. We do wish to end our lives. We DO think about the people we would be leaving behind. Trust me. I would know, ******. I almost killed myself TWICE. TWICE GODDAMMIT. THAT’S NOT SOMETHING YOU FUCKING TRY TO MAKE A FUCKING GODDAMN STATEMENT ABOUT, FUCKWAD. FUCK THE FUCK OFF AND LEAVE US ALONE. BITCHING AT US DOESN’T MAKE IT BETTER.
…have a gay day asshole. Peace out.
I read a previous post of yours and you know….I find this interesting:
“Thank you guys for your honest answers. Like clevername said, I dont fully understand your reasons, but thats ok. I changed my opinion about suicide completely since my brother died. I had that feeling of guilt, that I should have saved him, I could have saved him, but now I now, he wouldnt want to be “savedâ€. He handeled his problems in his way, the only way he knew how. Its ok. We are different. Just because I would handle life tottaly different it doesnt mean his way was wrong. I respect his choice. I allways said that, but now I actually mean it.
There are a lot of “I†in my writting. I am basicly a very selfish person and thats why it was hard to accept his act of killing himself, because that is something I wouldnt do.” ~ verbatim by smusmu from a previous post…
Seems I’m not the only one who thinks you’re selfish….you need to truly reevaluate your perspective and consider how your brother felt….
@painNlife well said man, thats one thing i love the most about you, ur clear logical writings that also have a slight mindfuck in them, never gets old.
@smusmu mabye we are selfish for wanting to die, but is it not more selfish of those arround us to demand we live, despite the fact we dont want to. i mean we allow nearly every other group of people to live as they want. we allow homosexual people to be together, in alot of countrys they can maryy/civil partnership. we allow drag queens and transvestites, hell we even allow women out of the kitchen these days 😮 also rights to people of different skin colours. so why cant suicidal people have the right to live their life the way they want to? as in not live it.
Also dont you dare say we dont think about the people we leave behind, if it wasnt for them id be dead already. they are the reason i struggle on because i love them more than i want to die right now. they are all i (and im sure others) live for, so dont you fucking dare say that when youve no idea what… when you dont know what its like.
fucking moderation
@XxF…
That’s a bit harsh.
San Francisco lost to Indianapolis at home. That was a shocker.
San Diego lost to Tennessee, Green Bay fell to Cincinnati. This was a rough Sunday.
Football saves lives, you know, but only when your team is winning.
The Seahawks are looking unstoppable, plus I have more than 12 beers in the fridge.
Things could be worse.
I would write a long, thoughtful comment, but I would probably just reiterate what PainNLife said, and I’m too apathetic and tired to invest myself into any kind of argument/writing.
@XxF
The homophobic slur was unnecessary
@C4
The Pats played great today, beat the Buccaneers to a pulp. We’re 3-0 now, not bad for the first part of the season. Giants are 0-3, it’s music to my ears.
Oh Stendarr; If you weren’t so likable I’d hate you. 🙂
I did notice that Tom Brady seemed frustrated with his receivers dropping balls. The man throws perfect passes but his rookie receivers struggle to hang on. Man, New England has sewn up that division for what…8 out of the last 9 seasons? You think Miami could be a threat this year? They’re not looking bad…not bad at all.
I just want to say something. I can understand that the suicide of your brother would have hurt you. A lot. But did you understand him? If you didn’t, you don’t understand us. We know people will be hurt. But it is those people who hurt us. You may not understand the pain we feel, but it is a lot. Almost all of us don’t want to hurt people – which is the reason most of us are still here.
Let me ask you: did your brother have a troubled life? If he did, he probably didn’t show it. He didn’t want to hurt you. I can’t speak for him, but I know that the last thing he wanted was to hurt anyone. But he couldn’t take the pain he was feeling anymore.
You are hurt. We can see it through your words. But think about this: would you have said the same words to your brother?
[Now i want to apologise in advance. I mean you no offence whatsoever, and if i have offended you, feel free to insult/threaten me if it makes you feel better. I hope that you can feel better about your brother.]
I guess its natural selection – people dont get killed by disease or war that much, so we have to kill ourselfs. I dont care if you do it, Im just saying its a stupid decision (my oppinon).
I think its not natural to want to end your own life. If you think you are doing the world a favour you are wrong. If you think you dont deserv to live you are wrong. You just cant see the beautiful, couse you focus on the ugly.
My mother is thretening to kill herself …. After my brother suicide she is crying all the time (ALL the time!) and is just waiting for the moment, that she wont fear death- pain any more. When that moment comes, she will hang herself.
I cant do nothing about it. Its her decision. She is in great pain for a couple of months now… The point is : if she put some effort in creating a new, different world (without her son), she wouldnt be so sad. But she sees nothing but black and does nothing to change that.
She gave in.
And I hate when people give up! We are such incredible creators with such potential and we waist our precious time for being miserable?
@Rpd7x:
Yes, he had troubled life. He was in great pain (not physical). But so was I and I didnt hang myself! I went through the same shit in our disfunctional family and had to live with my unbalanced mother for 18 years. I am bysexual and was never popular at school. Yeah – life is a *****! But when I run away and started my new life, I tried (and still trying) very hard to do it right!
My point is: you dont have to die to end life and start over. Just make a BIG change. Couse I really hate when people kill themselfs….
@smusmu …. well you are entitled to your own opinion…. however you’re right about one thing… we are not doing the world any favors…we die regardless if we kill ourselves or not and if you aren’t a V.I.P such as a person in a position of power like gadaffi or assad or even obama then your death won’t effect anything at all….
People do focus on the ugly….and you can’t blame them for that because the ugly far outweighs the good…..you’ll always pay attention the to hurricane over the rainbow….the wolf over the puppy…. and the bee over the butterfly….its just the way some people are…
Your mother may just be grieving at the moment not everybody recovers as fast as you and it may be over the fact that he is dead not so much he committed suicide because he could have died by a car wreck and she would probably still be the same way…. give her time you can’t rush her to heal but she will heal….if she does decide to kill herself its not solely to blame on his suicide….I bet there are other reasons and his death was probably the straw that broke the camels back….
Yes you may have overcome some things but what you aren’t realizing is that you are not your brother. Despite you both having the same parents his genetic make up is different from yours….he thought, acted, felt, talked, walked, tasted and lived different from you….the point of dying is not to start over its to end life….I bet 99% of people who commit suicide don’t want to be in this life again …..and you don’t hate when people give up…..because we ALL give up someday….when you die? something gave up in your body that stopped it from working….therefore technically we all give up one way or another….nobody lives forever so you have to realize we all die eventually….Its not now or ever ….its now or later…
I agree with you in many points but… I just dont get it, why some people think life is all about happines and that every one else have a great life, exept them. They are sad and they hurt so they want to end it all. We ALL hurt, we all have problems – every single one of us. So why you think you are different, you think you hurt so much more?
I would love to hear from you suicidal people here, that you know, you have a perfectly normal life, the only difference is, you dont have the ability to fix your problems. You nevere learnd how to solve them.
I dont know… Im just so angry … Im a surviver… Why on earth he did such a stupid mistake?But I agree with you – he wouldnt last anywhay… If he didnt do it at 17, he would have done it a bit later, when he would stumble across his first real problem.
Yeah… You are so right!
Thank you. PainNlife.
@smusmu….It’s not about who hurts more or who has the worse situation….we are all individuals with different levels of tolerance…. Hell a starving african child would laugh at what most americans consider problems….but thats not the point….the thing is nobody problems affect anybody else….It doesn’t do me a damn bit of good to know everybody has problems….does that somehow remove the pain of your particular problems? no…. not at all….. think of slavery or when the jews were in camps…they all hurt and had slight differences of same overall problem but I bet they did not all react to the problem the same way….some were able to persevere others probably went crazy and a few even committed suicide….why? because they all had different levels of tolerance and perspective on things…. Its not about a particular person being all “woe is me” but they feel pain and regardless of anything anybody else experiences they still feel that pain….
Its okay to be angry but be angry at the right thing….don’t be angry at him be angry at the conditions and circumstances that caused him to do what he did….be angry at all the things that caused him to experience the pain he did…. don’t be angry at the effect…. be mad at the cause…..the effect was that he committed suicide….identify the cause….It’s like being angry at a dog for shitting in the house….well….what was the cause of that? not walking him….not letting him outdoors….not training him….so I mean the effect is only the result of the cause….the effect can’t happen without the cause….
If he didn’t do it a bit later he would have died anyway ….we all die someday period….in the grand scheme of things does it really matter how or when? …. I mean if you are a person whose life effects many things such as JFK MLK Marcus Garvey Malcolm X or somebody like that then it does matter a bit because they effected history….most of us don’t effect history when we die we die and history continues on the same path regardless of if we died or not….
With him being 17 I can acknowledge he may have been hasty in his decision but if thats the choice he made you must find a way to move past it and be at peace with it because its done….there’s nothing you me your mother or anybody else can do to change anything at all….we can’t make him reconsider we can’t reverse anything its done….people need to be more preventative rather than reactionary…. did anybody do anything to help him? did you talk to him everyday? interact with him? try to help him see the good things in life you claim life has? did anybody take him to the doctor? did anybody notice a personality change? did anybody try to get him help and help him to consider other routes before this? did anybody keep an eye on him? did anybody even know he was thinking of suicide? ………. I’m not saying you need to blame yourselves but a drop of prevention is always better than a load of reaction….
@PainNlife well said hun!
@smusmu Until you walk in someones shoes and experience their actual lives you have no actually place to judge..
we didnt sign up for life so why should anyone be forced to live it?
i haven’t signed a contract to this world so as far as im concerned i have the right to die. & its not selfish because i didn’t sign up for it. no-one should be forced to live a life they dont want to live, it will be a miserable existence. and for what? so someone else can be happy? fuck that i’d rather be called a selfish suicidal **** than choose to continue living a life full of pain for someone else’s pleasure, like i said.. no-one signed up for this shit, so the doors always unlocked to leave.
@dreamstuge:
I cant agree with you.
@ painnlife:
your last post is just wonderful. You said what i needed to hear.Some days I overthink and get stuck in my own thoughts… I hate everyone, I hate him, I hate me… But then someone says something important (like you) and I snap out of it. Im OK now. Im crying my eyes out, but that is more healthy than being angry. Thank you!
And sorry to all of you that I offended. I get angry sometimes. Im sorry. 🙁
@smusmu I don’t have all the answers and I’m not some super intelligent dude but I just want people to understand the other side of the fence….hopefully over time you can find it in yourself to forgive and understand your brothers decision
I’m…sorry about what I wrote…I was in a terrible mood and I guess I took it out on this when I saw it. I’m so sorry 🙁 sorry for calling you a ****** and stuff…