So my name is Seth. I was honestly debating whether or not to join this project. Welpp, im here. Nothing really important about me. Its just sad how I grew up & the first thing I learned about life is how much it actually f*cking sucks.
“Yeah and you’ve only scratched the surface….with the passage of time you will understand just how much more it really sucks than you thought it did”
And then worse: that if you don’t just silently “take it like a man,” and instead attempt to identify and communicate problems in effort to raise their visibility and priority, people will demonize you for alerting them to problems, they would prefer to ignore, and treat you as if you have created them yourself… while it’s actually you trying to solve them, and them trying to allow them to remain unsolved, by ignoring them.
i don’t think we should be exacerbating his outlook on life, we should be here to help. we shouldn’t just be here to commiserate but to help uplift each other.
tings may be bad now seth and you’re probably feeling pretty low right now but that doesn’t mean it had to stay that way. if you have hope, then you have the possibility for betterment. if you don’t have that then all our efforts are forlorn and whats the purpose of even being here? as long as you have hope then you have a chance.
Sorry, i’m not a good liar. I suppose that makes me a bad person… but i am a person who has every right to be human, just like everyone else. If my opinions or words do not find your approval or adhere to your standards, then that is truly unfortunate, but there is no direct benefit to me, for striving to alter who i am, just to assuage the egos of people i will never meet, who have neither reason nor obligation to prioritize my own best interests over their own.
I was simply agreeing with the truth expressed in another’s statements. Part of what is wrong with the world, is how so many people see that as a bad thing.
Silence is complicity. If we simply shush and prioritize the preference of those who wish to simply pretend the problems do not exist, then those problems will only be perpetuated, not solved.
You have to be vocal, you have to speak up, you have to have courage to face what must be expected: the world is harsh and will try to destroy anyone who wants to do things differently, even when different is completely justified and actually better.
And while i do appreciate and even agree that hope is an important part of fueling motivation, which is required for worthwhile pursuits and fulfilling achievements, i will also caution anyone about hope’s potential to cause debilitating disappointment and despair, if it is formed and placed inappropriately. The only thing worse than hoping for something impossible, is proving to yourself that there is nothing possible worth hoping for. It’s a potent drug, and a double-edged sword, and must be used cautiously and in moderation.
I can’t tell you how many times people have demonized me for cautioning against abuse of hope, due to the potential that practice has, to cause irreparable damage and wasted time… and that is hard to ignore, when considering whether there exists anything truly worth hoping for.
You don’t want to be me… and most of my words are meant to convey that, and offered in attempt to help others avoid my consequences, many of which were enabled by misuse of hope. If you need hope to get along in life… make sure you don’t OD. Minimize it, and take only as much as you need, only when you absolutely need it. Don’t ride on hope alone, lest you find yourself smashed into the reef.
I disagree that “life sucks” … life just “is” … it is neither good nor bad. However circumstances and situations that arise and are found to occur within the constraints of that which is “life” can indeed, suck. a particular collection and/or configuration of these circumstances can give the impression that life, on the whole, does in fact, suck in totality … but that would be a false assertion and assessment. It still is not “life” that sucks … it’s the ball of shit one stumbles into that sucks … sure, one can give up on life as a means to extricate one’s self from the ball of shit … but in most situations, that would be overkill … one could, and probably should instead work at trying to extricate one’s self from the sucky things, then work at avoiding them in the future is order to explore some of the more positive and pleasant things that are available to be experienced.
I can completely understand and have certainly experienced more than my share fo suckage within the constraints of the “Life” bucket … and there are certainly moments where the easier “out” is to simply exit … but, there are a lot of things that i truly love about life and the things in it … the question is are those enough to spend the time and energy and endure the pain of extrication for the brambles and briers of the massive thicket i’ve found myself ensnared in. it’s a slow, laborious and painful process … but we’ll see if i can get most of it untangled. Hopefully i can get out before the next ball of shit bowls me over
So, i don’t know your (on anyone’s) situation … how much you’re ensnared in you own ball of shit … but everyone likes something … and if you can be patient and find your way though the negatives, you can eventually get to the positives – but i cannot know what your thresholds for patience and pain are – only you know those – good luck – free yourself and run free.
Goddamn dawg, i think exactly in the same way. It’s stunning. What i mean is: we have no knowledge, no awareness of what “life” is. We just know what our life is! So when we say life sucks, we should really be saying: my life sucks. It has a whole different meaning.
“Life” is composed of so many possible events, that to despise it, we should despise every single event that may ever happen; i think that nobody could do that.
Even though i totally understand (because i am like that, too) the feeling of having enough of the entire world, and just refusing everything in it.
Well well, look what we’ve got here. Cheap philosophy. The tastier and fresher.
The phrase “life sucks,” is dependent upon how one defines those terms.
While we can certainly emphasize the literal, and exclaim that “no one can really have a valid opinion on what all-of-life is, or whether it does indeed ‘suck,’ because anyone only ever directly experiences their own life, but not that of any other.”
But i think what “life sucks” usually means, is a combination of “MY life sucks” (which i’ll grant as an important distinction, which i often make myself), but also of what can often be interpreted by observing the lives of others. Many, many people in this world have lives which “suck,” and it is easy to observe this. If someone whose life sucks, by their own definition, then looks outward in curious despair, and sees that not only does their own life suck, but so many others’ lives also suck… then they are likely to form a reasonably justified assertion that “life sucks” is close enough to accurate to be spoken and carry truth. Sure, it doesn’t mean that all life of everything everywhere sucks… it’s just that person’s perspective, and rarely judged purely by only their own difficult experiences.
Most people don’t seem to base their idea that life sucks, upon only their own life sucking, while interpreting that only their own life sucks, while everyone else seems to have a wonderful life. I think most people realize that it is, in fact, only them, when that is observably true. They might not break it down and analyze the bejesus out of it like i do, but still.
I think it’s that a person will have numerous displeasing experiences over a long period of time, and learn to expect that such things will continue to occur; they then look at others and see that other people seem to experience similarly sucky experiences, and they start to realize that lots of people’s lives suck… so, if not just them, but lots of other people’s lives also suck… then it becomes “reasonably justifed,” due to a high frequency of observable suckage, to say “life sucks.” But i think that we all realize, on some level, that some people’s lives in fact do not suck… and perhaps that gets interpreted as “unfair,” which tends to reinforce the original point about seeing so many things that indicate that “life sucks” (including the disclaimer that it’s not the same for everyone, but is similar for many).
Plus, i think we should also remember to consider the property of expression regarding its origin. If someone says “X is Y,” then they are speaking from their own perspective. It’s sort of pointless to attempt to counter someone’s stated perspective by saying “well that’s just your perspective.” Of course it’s their perspective! They’re the one speaking it! So i think that in discussion we should try to remember that, and reduce the required overhead for analysis.
I think it’s better to skip the “well that’s just your opinion,” and go straight for the question: “what makes you think that?” When stating an opinion, it has been stated. There is no need to superfluously “re-iterate” the axiomatic definition that an expressed opinion automatically has, simply by being expressed.
And also: the statement/opinion/perspective that “life sucks,” can still be true to a person, even if that person can find things to like about life. If you run a comparison between suck and non-suck, it’s pretty easy to find that the list of suckness can indeed be far larger than the list of non-suck. And when all the bad things make the good things seem so irrelevant, that’s when people decide that it’s just easier to say “life sucks,” rather than expending the effort to be so precise as to indicate all the things that are bad, and then list all the exceptions and exclusions to that general statement.
If you’re in the negative, it doesn’t matter whether or how much you like which assets you do still have; you’re still broke and in debt.
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Yeah and you’ve only scratched the surface….with the passage of time you will understand just how much more it really sucks than you thought it did
“Yeah and you’ve only scratched the surface….with the passage of time you will understand just how much more it really sucks than you thought it did”
And then worse: that if you don’t just silently “take it like a man,” and instead attempt to identify and communicate problems in effort to raise their visibility and priority, people will demonize you for alerting them to problems, they would prefer to ignore, and treat you as if you have created them yourself… while it’s actually you trying to solve them, and them trying to allow them to remain unsolved, by ignoring them.
i don’t think we should be exacerbating his outlook on life, we should be here to help. we shouldn’t just be here to commiserate but to help uplift each other.
tings may be bad now seth and you’re probably feeling pretty low right now but that doesn’t mean it had to stay that way. if you have hope, then you have the possibility for betterment. if you don’t have that then all our efforts are forlorn and whats the purpose of even being here? as long as you have hope then you have a chance.
Sorry, i’m not a good liar. I suppose that makes me a bad person… but i am a person who has every right to be human, just like everyone else. If my opinions or words do not find your approval or adhere to your standards, then that is truly unfortunate, but there is no direct benefit to me, for striving to alter who i am, just to assuage the egos of people i will never meet, who have neither reason nor obligation to prioritize my own best interests over their own.
I was simply agreeing with the truth expressed in another’s statements. Part of what is wrong with the world, is how so many people see that as a bad thing.
Silence is complicity. If we simply shush and prioritize the preference of those who wish to simply pretend the problems do not exist, then those problems will only be perpetuated, not solved.
You have to be vocal, you have to speak up, you have to have courage to face what must be expected: the world is harsh and will try to destroy anyone who wants to do things differently, even when different is completely justified and actually better.
And while i do appreciate and even agree that hope is an important part of fueling motivation, which is required for worthwhile pursuits and fulfilling achievements, i will also caution anyone about hope’s potential to cause debilitating disappointment and despair, if it is formed and placed inappropriately. The only thing worse than hoping for something impossible, is proving to yourself that there is nothing possible worth hoping for. It’s a potent drug, and a double-edged sword, and must be used cautiously and in moderation.
I can’t tell you how many times people have demonized me for cautioning against abuse of hope, due to the potential that practice has, to cause irreparable damage and wasted time… and that is hard to ignore, when considering whether there exists anything truly worth hoping for.
You don’t want to be me… and most of my words are meant to convey that, and offered in attempt to help others avoid my consequences, many of which were enabled by misuse of hope. If you need hope to get along in life… make sure you don’t OD. Minimize it, and take only as much as you need, only when you absolutely need it. Don’t ride on hope alone, lest you find yourself smashed into the reef.
Welcome, seth. 🙂
You’ve stumbled upon the twilight zone of the internet; the buffer between lolcats and wtf memes. The world is indeed a strange place.
Nor should anyone “lie”.
I disagree that “life sucks” … life just “is” … it is neither good nor bad. However circumstances and situations that arise and are found to occur within the constraints of that which is “life” can indeed, suck. a particular collection and/or configuration of these circumstances can give the impression that life, on the whole, does in fact, suck in totality … but that would be a false assertion and assessment. It still is not “life” that sucks … it’s the ball of shit one stumbles into that sucks … sure, one can give up on life as a means to extricate one’s self from the ball of shit … but in most situations, that would be overkill … one could, and probably should instead work at trying to extricate one’s self from the sucky things, then work at avoiding them in the future is order to explore some of the more positive and pleasant things that are available to be experienced.
I can completely understand and have certainly experienced more than my share fo suckage within the constraints of the “Life” bucket … and there are certainly moments where the easier “out” is to simply exit … but, there are a lot of things that i truly love about life and the things in it … the question is are those enough to spend the time and energy and endure the pain of extrication for the brambles and briers of the massive thicket i’ve found myself ensnared in. it’s a slow, laborious and painful process … but we’ll see if i can get most of it untangled. Hopefully i can get out before the next ball of shit bowls me over
So, i don’t know your (on anyone’s) situation … how much you’re ensnared in you own ball of shit … but everyone likes something … and if you can be patient and find your way though the negatives, you can eventually get to the positives – but i cannot know what your thresholds for patience and pain are – only you know those – good luck – free yourself and run free.
Brer dawg
Goddamn dawg, i think exactly in the same way. It’s stunning. What i mean is: we have no knowledge, no awareness of what “life” is. We just know what our life is! So when we say life sucks, we should really be saying: my life sucks. It has a whole different meaning.
“Life” is composed of so many possible events, that to despise it, we should despise every single event that may ever happen; i think that nobody could do that.
Even though i totally understand (because i am like that, too) the feeling of having enough of the entire world, and just refusing everything in it.
Well well, look what we’ve got here. Cheap philosophy. The tastier and fresher.
dawg’s tag copying benna
The phrase “life sucks,” is dependent upon how one defines those terms.
While we can certainly emphasize the literal, and exclaim that “no one can really have a valid opinion on what all-of-life is, or whether it does indeed ‘suck,’ because anyone only ever directly experiences their own life, but not that of any other.”
But i think what “life sucks” usually means, is a combination of “MY life sucks” (which i’ll grant as an important distinction, which i often make myself), but also of what can often be interpreted by observing the lives of others. Many, many people in this world have lives which “suck,” and it is easy to observe this. If someone whose life sucks, by their own definition, then looks outward in curious despair, and sees that not only does their own life suck, but so many others’ lives also suck… then they are likely to form a reasonably justified assertion that “life sucks” is close enough to accurate to be spoken and carry truth. Sure, it doesn’t mean that all life of everything everywhere sucks… it’s just that person’s perspective, and rarely judged purely by only their own difficult experiences.
Most people don’t seem to base their idea that life sucks, upon only their own life sucking, while interpreting that only their own life sucks, while everyone else seems to have a wonderful life. I think most people realize that it is, in fact, only them, when that is observably true. They might not break it down and analyze the bejesus out of it like i do, but still.
I think it’s that a person will have numerous displeasing experiences over a long period of time, and learn to expect that such things will continue to occur; they then look at others and see that other people seem to experience similarly sucky experiences, and they start to realize that lots of people’s lives suck… so, if not just them, but lots of other people’s lives also suck… then it becomes “reasonably justifed,” due to a high frequency of observable suckage, to say “life sucks.” But i think that we all realize, on some level, that some people’s lives in fact do not suck… and perhaps that gets interpreted as “unfair,” which tends to reinforce the original point about seeing so many things that indicate that “life sucks” (including the disclaimer that it’s not the same for everyone, but is similar for many).
Plus, i think we should also remember to consider the property of expression regarding its origin. If someone says “X is Y,” then they are speaking from their own perspective. It’s sort of pointless to attempt to counter someone’s stated perspective by saying “well that’s just your perspective.” Of course it’s their perspective! They’re the one speaking it! So i think that in discussion we should try to remember that, and reduce the required overhead for analysis.
I think it’s better to skip the “well that’s just your opinion,” and go straight for the question: “what makes you think that?” When stating an opinion, it has been stated. There is no need to superfluously “re-iterate” the axiomatic definition that an expressed opinion automatically has, simply by being expressed.
And also: the statement/opinion/perspective that “life sucks,” can still be true to a person, even if that person can find things to like about life. If you run a comparison between suck and non-suck, it’s pretty easy to find that the list of suckness can indeed be far larger than the list of non-suck. And when all the bad things make the good things seem so irrelevant, that’s when people decide that it’s just easier to say “life sucks,” rather than expending the effort to be so precise as to indicate all the things that are bad, and then list all the exceptions and exclusions to that general statement.
If you’re in the negative, it doesn’t matter whether or how much you like which assets you do still have; you’re still broke and in debt.