Not only do they not believe in anything out-of-the-ordinary or supernatural, they get really pissed off when you say you do believe. The reaction is usually like this: “Hey, seems like someone’s been watching too many horror flicks”, or “come on, it’s plain bullshit, where’d you hear it?” – and these are still some “mild” responses, others spare no hurtful remarks, though I won’t mention them.
But what if that uncanny thing IS the most obvious and reasonable explanation? No, there still will be denial, because it’s easier to pronounce someone crazy than acknowledge stories like that we see in movies tell a bit of truth. I know how hard it can be to believe in something your eyes have never seen and probably will never see, but what ELSE to turn to when there’s no scientific explanation?
Which point do you hold if you care to reflect on that?
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fuck off doeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
just read and i actually feel very strongly about the supernatural
Ugh…
“Sadistically realistic?”
Really?
sa·dis·tic
səˈdistik/
adjective
adjective: sadistic
1.
deriving pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on others.
So do you honestly believe that people are choosing to “be realistic,” in order to take pleasure in the pain that their realism apparently causes you?
Or do you think that maybe it’s possible that “being realistic,” is just reasonable, and so reasonable people tend to choose to be realistic, rather than believing in farcical, outrageous claims?
I could just as easily ask: “why are people so pathetically desperate to believe unreasonable falsities?”
In fact, that is how i will counter your question. Your implication that being realistic is somehow “sadistic,” is beyond asinine, but my assertion that you seem pathetically desperate to believe false things, seems very… realistic. Heh.
Being ignorant of the correct answer is not valid justification for choosing the wrong one that you like better.
The truth is that no one “needs” to “turn to” any incorrect explanation, in the absence of sufficient understanding of any event. The correct way to respond to lacking understanding of an event, is to attempt to understand it… not just decide it was magic or monsters or spirits or gods, “just because science hasn’t yet explained it.”
What you convey comes off as childish and desperate, and quite sad.
I actually pity you. But i feel like i understand, well enough, what could cause someone to be that way; reality can be quite harsh and displeasing. Some people can’t handle it, and end up needing to believe otherwise, due to an inability to cope with reality. Granted, reality usually sucks… but the only way to make it better, is to see it clearly, dig in, and try to actively change it for the better… not bury your head in the sand, or float through clouds, and pretend it isn’t real. Pretending it isn’t what it is, will only help it stay as it is.
Don’t sadists enjoy forcing their ideas on others despite the pain it might cause? If I must submit to YOUR view to please you and be accepted, aren’t YOU being the sadist?
Clever response, clever name…. With a touch of compassion to negate OP’s assertion.
OP: I am a sadist, yet honor your right to believe whatever you choose. You afford me the same?
@imonlyaman: I realize I prefer short responses. Otherwise I just wind up getting dragged down in the shit too.
As a matter of fact, I am not imposing my ideas on anyone, forcing them to believe or not. The question was why do the realists have to be sadists is another point. You don’t have to define any term for me… unless it’s for yourself. Your views are pretty clear to me, being sadistic you like it this way. Who am I to say you’re wrong? Just the unclever, unbeautiful, disregarded failure. I wouldn’t dare object!
P.S. It seems like something’s missing here…
Oh, yeah, I figure it’s some Real Talk… Where’s your wonderful front guy? Didn’t bother dropping a comment to bicker the fuck out of me? I’m so displeased.
I never get mad when people comment. It doesn’t matter what they say. Some people take themselves so fucking seriously it’s sickening. Like they have nothing better to do in the world then get worked up by what other people believe and say to others. To me it doesn’t even make sense. Some folks on this site are so sensitive to the slightest change in subject matter that they have to make their posts up with the comments off, cuz they know whats coming, and they can’t handle it. Yet they have no problem going around making other conversations their business. I mean, it’s fair game to comment on any available post, but to go around looking for trouble just to play the victim/”hero” is just foolish. It’s retarded.
Believe what you want, and when people come around knocking down what you believe, have some self respect and don’t get all worked up over some stupid small shit!
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lol ^^ I wrote that before I read your comment! 😜
I’m gonna make small observation..
You seem to be upset at what clevername and I have said but there is one small problem… Clevername didn’t say anything sadistic (and he’s not sadistic to anyone here) and my ass didn’t even write anything before you had already mentioned me. What’s up with that? And I have a bad memory so im not remembering who you are at this moment! lol do I comment on your posts often?
Here comes the boom…
You’re showing so much insight. I’m proud of you… Keep up the good work.
Oh, you’re miss holly?
The only thing worse than the over sensitive people are the over sensitive ones that change their usernames and still act like the rest of us will recognize them. So when we comment, you can make sure we look like pricks before we say anything! lol I don’t get it. Actually I do, it’s called being “sadistic” lol
about every so often, guess about three or four times a year, maybe five, I pick a fight on a forum and play the villain because is it entertaining. self-respect on the internet and these forums people camp out in? *laughing* Every once in awhile I smoke a cigarette even though it’s bad for me.
RT you use a lot of negative words and sound…serious. given all you say is true, so what?
Don’t be offended when I call you names! lol I’m just poking the bears! Hehe
I use strong words that make an impact on people’s minds, otherwise I’m just another voiceless opinion-less obedient robot! People might think might approach doesn’t work but I would have given it up years ago if it didn’t actually save lives. Been doing this for a long time now. Not here but in real life.
*Might think my (not might)
Well you did make an impact on my mind, and your approach does work. Only it’s not about the number of lives you might have saved, but the number of souls you’ve corrupted.
I gots nothing to say anymore since I found out its you lol
Well.. There is the word use “corrupted” which you obviously don’t know the meaning of either. You are very bitter but you aren’t very smart. You hate the world so much.. Thanks for visiting earth.. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out! 😉
🙂 It won’t hit me unless you push it.
I ain’t the door-man! lol
I unwittingly became involved in a discussion on religion on here a few monghs ago and asked whether they’d prohibit religious practice. The answer was unreservedly ‘yes’. Nothing unethical about that then?
“live and let live”…..the problem is that nobody follows that….if an atheist mention he’s an atheist in the presence of Christians he’s attacked….if a christian says he’s a christian in front of atheist he’s attacked…. From what I’ve seen both sides derive pleasure in humiliating the other…. Ray Comfort and Richard Dawkins seem to enjoy ridiculing each others beliefs….so it just isn’t a one sided thing….its both sides….
Christians will attack other christians too, catholic vs baptist vs mormon vs lutheran, etc. All claim to be ‘christian’, but their philosophies and beliefs clash.
^ you know renobill what you are right….I didn’t even think about that…I forgot how many denominations of christians there are
Being realistic isn’t a form of sadism. Giving people an opinion derived from a different perspective that touches on points that the person failed to take into account is an action the person should utilize. If you refuse to hear any other point of view but your own you’re merely being ignorant and narrow minded which is detrimental to primarily yourself. What service are you to yourself by refusing to hear information or thoughts that you don’t agree with? Are you saving yourself from your fear of opposing thoughts? A mindset like that won’t get you very far in life, eventually reality will catch up and you’ll be unprepared because you’ve been living in your own personal bubble for so long. Don’t hide from opinions or thoughts you don’t agree with just because they seem threatening, that isn’t the mature way to handle information like that. Accept the validity you can discern from it and use it to build upon your own philosophies, integrate it so that you may create an even greater picture of things that you may benefit from. Being close minded is just debilitating on your part and only you will suffer from it (as long as you don’t impose it on others, then that’s a crime I see fit for retribution) what ever floats your boat though.
I’m missing something. Just because someone holds an opinion different than your own, I fail to see how you can jump to a conclusion that, “They obtain pain from me by doing so and are pleasured by that pain.”
Online forums are for the exchange of ideas.
Oh look, a discussion (sort of) happened.
@Duke:
“I unwittingly became involved in a discussion on religion on here a few monghs ago and asked whether they’d prohibit religious practice. The answer was unreservedly ‘yes’. Nothing unethical about that then?”
I remember that. You were calling yourself “exit to nowhere” at the time, and in case you don’t recall, my answer was indeed given amidst reservation. I intended to communicate that i would not want to be in the position that was forced to decide to prohibit religious practice… but if religious practice is detrimental to the rest of the world (which, IMO, it certainly has shown plenty of evidence that it often is), then it doesn’t get a special pass just for being religion. If i were in charge, i would not want people doing things that caused unnecessary problems for each other, and unfortunately, that often does include religion. My preference would be to simply teach everyone critical thinking, knowing that this would lead to most people naturally seeing for themselves that religion is a farcical waste of energy, and obfuscates the reality we all need to see, in order to get to the sources of problems, in order to correct them, thereby making the world a better place for everyone.
@else:
I am far from being a sadist. I don’t like to hurt others unnecessarily, and i don’t like to hurt myself. But sometimes we must go through a painful process, in order to progress and evolve. Some pain is necessarily unavoidable, some is justifiable, some is even beneficial, as long as it’s not so extreme as to cripple a person.
If any of you are expecting (irrationally so) to never encounter anything uncomfortable, whether in real life, or just on the internet, then you are in for a very rude awakening. And if you refuse to see reality, and choose to believe fantasies instead, then this type of unpleasant encounter will surely shock and dumbfound you, and will most likely cause you to want to lash out against everyone else, for something you damn well should have known to expect.
Realism is about being ready, seeing clearly, forming appropriate expectations, making accurate predictions, and staying balanced… not about hurting anyone. To me, it’s as i said initially: beyond asinine, for anyone to correlate “being realistic,” with any desire to cause suffering to others.
Although i suppose that if you know and associate with sadists, who are aware of your fantastical nature, then it is quite likely that they will attempt to contest against whatever beliefs they perceive you to hold, so that it may cause you frustration and discomfort. But it has nothing to do with anyone being realistic, and everything to do with a certain unfortunately common character flaw, in many people, who simply enjoy obfuscation and disruption, and use these tactics to cause discomfort in anyone they find vulnerable.
On the internet, we call them trolls. Trolls exist in the real world too, and they will adopt any tactic they think can facilitate causing frustration to others, because they think it’s hilarious, and they enjoy watching you writhe and squirm. If “realism” wasn’t the thing that upset you so much, then it would be some other tactic they would employ. But since you are so unrealistic, you don’t understand how to deconstruct the events surrounding you, and analyze the people you associate with, to determine an accurate assessment of what is actually happening. No, instead of being realistic and figuring it out yourself, you choose to believe something else, and act as though “realism” is the thing that is attacking you. When in actuality, realism would serve to help you avoid such situations. You, and everyone else, should be embracing it, not demonizing it.
Goddamnit how do I keep this freaking realism from attacking me? I know it’s because I read Plato and now I’m fucked!
@jswiss: i LQTM’d. (laugh quietly to myself)
lol ^^
See…this is what I’m talking about.
I don’t know if some of you notice, but when you get all defensive like that and use irrational logic, it exposes you to more harassment. If you pay attention to some of the other more “open” posters, you’ll see that when they respond logically (and not defensively) they don’t get too much “harassment” and judgement after the fact. Acting all defensive just makes people want to come at you even harder and use more brutal tactics.
What would Jesus do? Does Jesus ever go online and comment, and if he does, does he ever frequent this site?
If Jesus likes the undefeated Oregon Ducks, then he’s having a great day. 45-24 over Washington with 6 minutes and change left in the 4rth quarter.
Thanks JC, Go Ducks.
@RT30: I know I’ve told you or someone this before, but if you’re not British, drop the “e” from judgment. I much prefer being offensive to being defensive, but just with the typical users on forums. What is a brutal tactic? I don’t play WoW.
I work in construction, they don’t pay me to win spelling contests!
I think brutal tactics are calling people names out right and trying to find weaknesses to expose. And persistence is also a brutal tactic. Depends on the person being brutalized, I’d say.