well before people were domesticated, before “civilization” people generally did not live far past their 30’s… In fact you’re 30’s were considered you’re senior yrs….
Maybe this was nature’s way of mercy killing, rather than be drug on to live through misery and you’re body breaking down, once it got to the age where you couldn’t enjoy the things you grew up doing anymore, nature decided to perhaps have a heart and let you go.
These days I hear older people constantly lying to themselves that “things aren’t that bad” just to cope with it. For some maybe it’s not, but for many it is that bad. But I mean what matters more in life, quality or quantity? I’d go with quality, and the quality of life easily diminishes in our 30’s or 40’s. Honestly, I don’t see the point in living once our bodies start to break down.
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im 47 and know full well i have lived the best of life, and am ready to check out. The only thing that holds me here is mom, nothing else does.
Yeah, sometimes it’s easier to be alone, and be alone, than to be alone and not be alone. I know the feeling, my family largely have me pressured into staying here, otherwise it would be so much easier to make the exit plan.
“who lives beyond forty? Only the fools.”
I agree, and it seems to me that lots of people that reach 30-40s are either ready to go because their life won’t get any better, or have already acomplished several things and start to “settle down” and embrace that aging process as some say. As if the so called midlife crisis is really your own gut telling you “this should have been your exit point”.
And i fall in the same category of you guys, if it wasn’t for some family, i’d be gone already.
Yes I really don’t believe that our bodies are designed to hold up beyond 30-odd years. It’s awful, you spend the first two decades doing nothing but preparing for “the future” your adulthood, and by the time you reach thirty you are worn out, bored and sick of life, wrinkling, greying, and envious of those who never again have to set an alarm clock or visit a hospital (the dead). You also have lost the exuberance and dreams that you had as a young person because now you know and have experienced too much of reality.
I’m entering my thirties. I have a “premature aging” condition so everything as far as aging goes is 1000 times more pronounced for me. When I was little I used to wonder why grandma got out of breath grocery shopping and had to sit on a bench. Now I know. Society wants us to lie to ourselves about aging “fifty is the new twenty-five” all of that. But you can’t argue with biology. You can see people’s bodies start breaking down at thirty. And you can also see world-weariness setting in. At thirty we have joined the ranks of life’s exhausted battle-worn soldiers who have fought too long and have no end in sight.
@rach: Funny that you mention that. The most important part of my health (at least to me) broke down in the 30-31 period, completely out of the blue and with no diagnose whatsoever… as if my body just said “30 is enough, have at you!”. I had a friend who suffered of accelerated aging as well, she’s in her 30s and hates it. Maybe there is a reason why people died young back then.
@M “The most important part of my health (at least to me) broke down in the 30-31 period, completely out of the blue and with no diagnose whatsoever” Same here, being male and being able (at best) to get a willy nilly erection if I can even get that, and it seems it’s either I live a boring straight edge ++++++ lifestyle, where if I so much as swear or listen to loud music it’s probably gonna add to my manhood issues down there. I mean smoking pot was the one joy I had in life, maybe I can change it out for new ways of getting high, I’m looking into creating a path vasodilator highs, cayenne peppers in place of tobacco, I’m gonna try nutmeg, colorado river toad, yohimbe teas and such male enhancement herbal teas can be put in place of beers…
If this doesn’t work out I’m not sticking around…. I think it’s total horse shit that I see tons of other men in their 50’s who smoke up every day, even still smoke a pack a day of cigarettes, and they never have this problem… I wish I could have their DNA.
See here’s the truth of it:
http://www.treelite.com/NF/2008/03/Wake-Up-Men-Your-Masculinity-is-Under-Attack
This link does a good job of breaking down the war on masculinity, which is really a war being waged by high status wealthy males using women as proxies to keep the common, low-status male down. Because the governments know that this is where *most* of the resistance will come from. And there is a chemical war in all the GMO’s and vaccines, etc.
That being said, the current drug scene is heavily rooted into the counter culture movement of the 1960’s onward, heavily tied into feminism and marxism and all that other jazz being brought in. Because the government gave us this counter culture to rebel against the old norms in order to bring in the new norms, the same as they’ve done this empire after empire down through history. Bar all the mindless Christian propaganda, I’d recommend looking at the Aquarian conspiracy”
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/aquarian.htm
So yeah, all the main spotlighted, mostly illegal drugs which have been promoted in our culture here in the west are vasoconstrictors. Granted the drug game itself is a trap anyhow to some extent to get everyone hooked but honestly it’s almost impossible to socialize today without some sort of recreational vice.
I was healthy until my 25 birthday, never had any problems – well major at least. Then came a chronic lung disease and after that it was a downward spiral. Now nearing the 30 and already have so many illnesses I feel like fucking 80 year old. And one terminal, so I guess I have at least done something wrong in my last life with all this misery been brought upon me.
Very odd thought that 30 seems to be the magical age in which the body really starts to shut down. And it is a fact that a human heart starts to deteriorate after around 30. Before that it can be strengthened, but afterwards only maintained.
It´s sad that very few people appreciate their bodies and health as youngster or early 30, but when body shows first sings of some problems then starts all the weird diet, exercise routines and all that. Remember guys, most mental problems are fixable and can be lived with – not to underestimate anyone’s problems in any way – but physical health if it´s gone chronically then it´s gone forever, and then the mental capacity is really weighted.
Quality for me please.
yeah 25 is supposed to be our peak year, the good side is obviously you’re at you’re peak but the bad side is, it only lasts a year and then you’ve got to begin you’re journey down the hill. Twenty 5 is the apex of the hill, 30’s are the early yrs of starting down it… It certainly would make much more sense to just spare the trip down the hill.
Agreed, I guess it´ll be truly a wonderous journey towards the bottom of hill – but then again why am I at this site. Maybe the void down the hill is something to be laughed at, fuck it and it´s tormenting smile. I choose when to go and where, that´s the good side of life, you have always the option to grin back to the void and leave before it devoures you bit by bit.
but if you look at our mainstream drug culture, tobacco, marijuana, alcohol (especially beer with hops), opiates, coke, meth, (many of these harder ones I’ve never messed with), etc etc, they are all vasoconstrictors and all have long term feminizing properties. The docs would have us believe catching a buzz off of anything period will result in impotence, I’m not so sure that’s the case. Especially when I can point out certain lesser-known ways of getting high which actually are known vasodilators and which are known to help male fertility and erections, many of which are also good for women’s libidos too.
The problem is we are being hit with way too much estrogen (s-trojan). This feminizes men and masculizes women (Steve Moxon, in his book “The Woman Racket,” discusses the science behind how hyper-femininity takes on characteristics of masculinity)… By attacking masculinity the elites are actually attacking both genders, men and women. If men are the guardians, the shield so to speak, we are the firewall, well, the first thing they have to do is take down the firewall, that opens everything else up to attack. What the elites want out of this is an androgynous society, freemasonry’s “new man” or “perfected slave” is hermaphroditic
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/pym/
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/pym/
And you see this too in the Israeli star of David and the Freemason compass and square, the upward ark is male (phallus) the downward ark is female (vagina). So it’s hermaphroditic. I could go into a ton more detail here but it’s not the point of this post though…
I think I figured it out…. See, they love to tell us this shit about how our lifespan has increased over the centuries, well that’s not really accurate, Let me explain here. First off if you wanna be completely honest, our grandparents’ generations lived longer than we did on average because they were eating healthy organic, garden-grown food as opposed to all these poisonous GMOs and processed shit and fast food and shit. Secondly their air and water wasn’t contaminated with so many chemicals. And they did not have this hedonistic, nihilistic culture training them through TV and silver screen, pop culture, etc to live unhealthy liefstyles from such a young age, the drug culture wasn’t nearly as big as it is now either…
Okay now that being said, yes people do stay alive longer today than they did back in the hunting/gathering, non-domesticated tribal days. But it is not so much that civilization has extended life, quite the contrary. They’ve extended death. If they had extended life, people would stay younger longer, have more genetic resistance, and when their time came to die, it would be like the snap of a finger, done. Much more like it probably was pre-domestication. But now it takes the average person 30-40 yrs to die, beginning slowly in their 30’s, and like a snowball rolling down a hill, it gains momentum as the person gets older.
Now they are working on life extensions, and to fight aging, but the problem with this is that the elites are not going to allow these life extensions to the common people, they will hold out a monopoly on these extensions for themselves. And there will be a class war fought over this in the generations to come, at some point. By the time these extensions are made available to the common people, the people will be brain chipped before this happens. You see it’s all about power and control, the elites don’t want us having immortal youth and life until they’ve got complete control over it.